I've always thought the sent of burning cannibus was rather nice.Ciggerette smoke... now *there's* a foul smell.. bleah
But then again, whatchya want from a damn dirty treehugger? 
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I've always thought the sent of burning cannibus was rather nice.
Ciggerette smoke... now *there's* a foul smell.. bleah
plus ther few thigns funnier hten beign aroudna bunhc of high poeple when your not
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Peanut butter ass Shaq Drakkenmaw booooze lime pole over bench lick:
Besides, there is little actual evidence suggesting that such a thing will happen. Mostly just random self-designated experts saying that it will. So, it might be interesting to request a historical proof that indicates a leap to more hardened substances. The fact that it likely would happen nonwithstanding, it'd be a good way to shore up that side of the argument.
Results vary. Since the legalization of marijuana on Holland, heroin addiction rates there tripled (source) and yet in Jamaica no progression has been demonstrated (this may simply mean that nobody has done a study on drug progression in the largly pot-smoking jamaican culture).
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Mr. Parcelan wrote this stupid crap:
I think it's a pretty stupid habit, but overall pretty harmless.
Harmless? But pot money funds terrorism so smoking pot makes you an anti-American terrorist!
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JooJooFlop wrote, obviously thinking too hard:
Harmless? But pot money funds terrorism so smoking pot makes you an anti-American terrorist!
Fight terrorism, grow your own. 
I say decrimanlize it. Don't make it legal. Make it a ticketable offense.
But God sakes, are you going to tell me that you'll deny a cancer stricken elderly person some marijuana to ease his/her pain? We have legal drugs that are WAY more powerful than a joint. It makes no sense whatsoever that medicinal marijuana is not a reality. [ 09-03-2003: Message edited by: Emil ]
(Though he's doing better now at 30. Settled down with a family in Oklahoma or something!)
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Over the mountain, in between the ups and downs, I ran into Emil who doth quote:
But God sakes, are you going to tell me that you'll deny a cancer stricken elderly person some marijuana to ease his/her pain? We have legal drugs that are WAY more powerful than a joint. It makes no sense whatsoever that medicinal marijuana is not a reality.
The medicinal qualities of marijuana are not unique. Your argument is self-defeating [ 09-03-2003: Message edited by: Maradon! ]
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Maradon! had this to say about Optimus Prime:
The medicinal qualities of marijuana are not unique. Your argument is self-defeating
Why is my argument self defeating?
So what if marijuana is not unique in curative effect? This is America isn't it? Can't we with the help of physicians determine the best course of treatment? Pot would be a lot cheaper than other drugs and more affordable to people in tight circumstances. And you might be allergic to other drugs, or don't want to deal with the side effects of more chemical drugs.
In the end, you use what works, and for some people, marijuana works, for others Prozac, morphine, codeine, percocets, etc. All of them are drugs and all are addictive, why should pot be different than any other medicinal drug?
I can't see the tags, omg. ;( I probably picked some weird one like rant or something.
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YES! I got spiffy, who rules. 
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Emiling:
In the end, you use what works, and for some people, marijuana works, for others Prozac, morphine, codeine, percocets, etc. All of them are drugs and all are addictive, why should pot be different than any other medicinal drug?
There is no need to use marijuana in it's smoked form for medicinal purposes - not a single other pharmaceutical on the market today is smoked. Not only that, but the FDA sees to it that no other pharmaceutical contains hazardous chemicals, and marijuana is just bursting with them.
Remember: I'm in favor of legalization, but trying to pass off marijuana as any kind of legitimate treatment for anything in the vain hope that it'll make the drug more readily available is not the way to go about it. Yeah, that's what cancer patients need, MORE cancer causing agents.
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That argument is hilarious. "OH HUMANITY, are you going to deny an old, elderly woman her GOD-GIVEN RIGHT TO MEDICINAL MARIJUANA?!"
Why shouldn't she have it if she needs it? What harm will come to you or society as a whole if she chooses to ease her pain with marijuana? Trained medical doctors who are presumably smarter than you have prescribed pot as a viable pain killing treatment. Why do you think she should be denied? I'm glad you think its funny, but there are people who could use this without traditional side effects like intense nausea or diarreha or rashes, etc from stronger medications.
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Over the mountain, in between the ups and downs, I ran into Emil who doth quote:
Why shouldn't she have it if she needs it? What harm will come to you or society as a whole if she chooses to ease her pain with marijuana? Trained medical doctors who are presumably smarter than you have prescribed pot as a viable pain killing treatment. Why do you think she should be denied?
That's not the point, the point is that there are better drugs than marijuana that actually do the same thing but don't contain harmful agents. If asprin gave you stomach cancer, would you perscribe it to ease the pains of someone suffering from ovarian cancer or just go straight for the ibuprofin?
I reiterate: it's not that people should be denied marijuana, it's simply that it isn't a legitimate treatment for anything. It isn't anything more than a recreational drug. [ 09-03-2003: Message edited by: Maradon! ]
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But God sakes, are you going to tell me that you'll deny a cancer stricken elderly person some marijuana to ease his/her pain? We have legal drugs that are WAY more powerful than a joint. It makes no sense whatsoever that medicinal marijuana is not a reality.
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You know that there is now a drug called Marinol that duplicates the medicinal effects of marijuana, without forcing patients to inhale carcinogens along with it
Whee!
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I reiterate: it's not that people should be denied marijuana, it's simply that it isn't a legitimate treatment for anything. It isn't anything more than a recreational drug.
Some people do have problems with those other drugs though. Also, how much do they cost? Alot of the people that need them can't really afford them on top of the other medical bills they have.
It's fairly cheap, it can be taken easily by people that can't keep stuff down, and it does the job. Sure, it has some bad side effects, but so do most drugs.
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Also, how much do they cost? Alot of the people that need them can't really afford them on top of the other medical bills they have.
Have you tried to buy a dime bag lately!?
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Peanut butter ass Shaq Palador ChibiDragon booooze lime pole over bench lick:
Some people do have problems with those other drugs though. Also, how much do they cost? Alot of the people that need them can't really afford them on top of the other medical bills they have.It's fairly cheap, it can be taken easily by people that can't keep stuff down, and it does the job. Sure, it has some bad side effects, but so do most drugs.
What you're saying is inconsistent with reality - people who can't swallow a pill probably won't be too comfortable smoking either. The active ingredients in Marinol and Marijuana are identical so people who have trouble with marinol will have trouble with marijuana. As snooter was kind enough to point out, marijuana is nearly expensive as real medication
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As snooter was kind enough to point out, marijuana is nearly expensive as real medication
And not covered by Insurance!
Or 10. Whatever. Why did I write 15, we may never know. Why I even care is probably even less clear. [ 09-04-2003: Message edited by: Suddar ]
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A sleep deprived Maradon! stammered:
What you're saying is inconsistent with reality - people who can't swallow a pill probably won't be too comfortable smoking either. The active ingredients in Marinol and Marijuana are identical so people who have trouble with marinol will have trouble with marijuana. As snooter was kind enough to point out, marijuana is nearly expensive as real medication
It's not a problem with swallowing the pill, it's a problem with keeping it down. The main thing cancer patients want it for is to control the nasua caused by chemotherapy (sp?). It can get so bad that they honestly can't keep anything down, even pills. From what I understand, it's only that bad after they've recently had a treatment, but it's still able to get that bad.
And a large part of the price of marijuana is there because it's illegal. It's not that hard to grow, or process into usable form. Legalize it for medical use, and the price would drop.
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And a large part of the price of marijuana is there because it's illegal. It's not that hard to grow, or process into usable form. Legalize it for medical use, and the price would drop.
Maybe you failed to notice that here in the US, legalized drugs are often more expensive than marijuana 
Once again though, there are other ways to supress nausea. Lots of drugs can be taken in lots of ways - a pharmacist can even suspend a drug in a gel form, allowing it to be taken transdermally. [ 09-04-2003: Message edited by: Maradon! ]
i dont see hwy its that ahrd for a cancer ridden 90 year old lady to go to the corner and buy some pot like everyone else
Think about it! All the kids show up ten minutes late, they take fifteen minutes to take off their coat and sit in a circle around their teacher.
Then they listen to music a little bit before taking a nap, and right after naptime is snacktime, then more music, and lunch, then finally they're all sent home at noon. Half day!
They sound made for eachother.
And Vorbis. We should send him back too.
It's not something people hear about.
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It can get so bad that they honestly can't keep anything down, even pills. From what I understand, it's only that bad after they've recently had a treatment, but it's still able to get that bad.
Chemotherapy makes you sicker than a dog. For some, the effects remain a long time after taking it. I HATED taking my medicine, because it made me so ill.
Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin
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Maybe you failed to notice that here in the US, legalized drugs are often more expensive than marijuana
Most legalized drugs can't be grown and processed as easily as marijuana. Hell, the stuff grows wild if you let it, and everything else you need can be gotten at your average Wal-Mart.
Sure, the price might go up a bit at first, but it would come down once suppliers start undercutting the prices of the competition. Plus, unlike a lot of the other drugs, there's no patent to deal with. Anyone would be able to make it, if they get the government's ok.
