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Ocyrrhoe Trazere
Bootylicious!!
posted 05-02-2003 11:57:23 PM
I just got back from it a while back... and good lord, I love. That's all I'm gonna say for now. Though I'm still kind of pissed that Rogue is a little pansy now... but hey, it's ok.
"Come at me. Every inch of me will resist you."

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Comrade Snoota
Communist
Da, Tovarisch!
posted 05-03-2003 12:13:39 AM
They should have just started Rogue off with her super strength and invulnerability. Or at the very least had her gain them in the first movie before being found by Wolverine. She's nothing without them.
You smell that? Do you smell that? ...Napalm, son. Nothing else in the world smells like that. I love the smell of napalm in the morning. You know, one time we had a hill bombed for twelve hours. When it was all over I walked up. We didn't find one of 'em, not one stinkin' dink body. The smell, you know that gasoline smell, the whole hill. Smelled like... victory.
Delphi Aegis
Delphi. That's right. The oracle. Ask me anything. Anything about your underwear.
posted 05-03-2003 12:14:55 AM
quote:
Comrade Snoota had this to say about (_|_):
They should have just started Rogue off with her super strength and invulnerability. Or at the very least had her gain them in the first movie before being found by Wolverine. She's nothing without them.

Where's the southern accent?

Guess she absorbs that, too.

Comrade Snoota
Communist
Da, Tovarisch!
posted 05-03-2003 12:15:58 AM
People who whine about accents not being in a movie are stupid.

Let's review, with that new information:

Delphi = stupid

You smell that? Do you smell that? ...Napalm, son. Nothing else in the world smells like that. I love the smell of napalm in the morning. You know, one time we had a hill bombed for twelve hours. When it was all over I walked up. We didn't find one of 'em, not one stinkin' dink body. The smell, you know that gasoline smell, the whole hill. Smelled like... victory.
Delphi Aegis
Delphi. That's right. The oracle. Ask me anything. Anything about your underwear.
posted 05-03-2003 12:17:33 AM
I rather liked Rogue as a southern bell.
MorbId
Pancake
posted 05-03-2003 12:18:12 AM
Great, great movie. Nightcrawler was implemented perfectly - there's no way he could have been done better.

Only disappointment to me was the lack of Gambit, but at least there was a reference to both him and Beast.

[ 05-03-2003: Message edited by: MorbId ]

Palador ChibiDragon
Dismembered
posted 05-03-2003 12:18:14 AM
quote:
ACES! Another post by Comrade Snoota:
They should have just started Rogue off with her super strength and invulnerability. Or at the very least had her gain them in the first movie before being found by Wolverine. She's nothing without them.

Yah, but that's a whole movie's worth of storyline in and of itself. Besides, that was something she gained as a villan. It would take a MAJOR rework of the character to explain how she got those powers.

And I kinda like the idea of starting her off without 'em. With 'em, she was too Superman to be interesting within the plot/character development of a movie.

I believe in the existance of magic, not because I have seen proof of its existance, but because I refuse to live in a world where it does not exist.
Comrade Snoota
Communist
Da, Tovarisch!
posted 05-03-2003 12:19:23 AM
And without them, she was the sux and a pointless character.

You smell that? Do you smell that? ...Napalm, son. Nothing else in the world smells like that. I love the smell of napalm in the morning. You know, one time we had a hill bombed for twelve hours. When it was all over I walked up. We didn't find one of 'em, not one stinkin' dink body. The smell, you know that gasoline smell, the whole hill. Smelled like... victory.
Palador ChibiDragon
Dismembered
posted 05-03-2003 12:20:56 AM
quote:
Comrade Snoota had this to say about Robocop:
And without them, she was the sux and a pointless character.


It made her a better plot device in the first movie.

I can't say anything about how they handle it in the second yet, I haven't seen it. But they do handle it well in X-Men:Evolution, so I was hoping that they managed it here too.

Am I to take it they didn't?

I believe in the existance of magic, not because I have seen proof of its existance, but because I refuse to live in a world where it does not exist.
Comrade Snoota
Communist
Da, Tovarisch!
posted 05-03-2003 12:24:30 AM
Not really. There are no plot spoilers below, but I blacked it out because people like to whine anyway. Feel free to read why she sucks in the second movie!

She kissed Iceman. Twice. The first time nothing at all happened. The second time was a longer kiss and he got hurt, but just enough for him to pull away from her. And the only transfer of powers was her exhaling frost after the kiss. There was one mention of, "We're in love but can't touch!" towards the start of the movie, and that was soon forgotten as the next time they're alone together they lock lips and then go on as if nothing happened.

You smell that? Do you smell that? ...Napalm, son. Nothing else in the world smells like that. I love the smell of napalm in the morning. You know, one time we had a hill bombed for twelve hours. When it was all over I walked up. We didn't find one of 'em, not one stinkin' dink body. The smell, you know that gasoline smell, the whole hill. Smelled like... victory.
Delphi Aegis
Delphi. That's right. The oracle. Ask me anything. Anything about your underwear.
posted 05-03-2003 12:29:10 AM
quote:
Comrade Snoota had this to say about dark elf butts:
Not really. There are no plot spoilers below, but I blacked it out because people like to whine anyway. Feel free to read why she sucks in the second movie!

She kissed Iceman. Twice. The first time nothing at all happened. The second time was a longer kiss and he got hurt, but just enough for him to pull away from her. And the only transfer of powers was her exhaling frost after the kiss. There was one mention of, "We're in love but can't touch!" towards the start of the movie, and that was soon forgotten as the next time they're alone together they lock lips and then go on as if nothing happened.


She's wearing really thick lipstick?

Vise the Stompy
Title now 100% ass free!
posted 05-03-2003 12:41:47 AM
.......WOW!
Hireko
Kill a fish before breakfast each day
posted 05-03-2003 12:59:18 AM
The sheer honest to goodness death count of this moving was amazing. The movie as a whole blew away the first one, though the climax I think was down better in X1.
Those who dance are thought insane by those who can't hear the music.
Vorago
A completely different kind of Buckethead
posted 05-03-2003 01:22:19 AM
Delidgmond, Inferno-Spirit, FriendYouDontKnow and I just got back from seeing it...

Damn, that rocked

Absolutely rocked

Oh shi...
what
posted 05-03-2003 01:32:39 AM
I STAB YOU IN THE BACK 400 TIMES WITH MY POINTY NAILS!~!!!
Comrade Snoota
Communist
Da, Tovarisch!
posted 05-03-2003 02:02:19 AM
Snoota must rant about something now!

Colossus! I almost got a woody when that giant, armor clad brute stepped through the secret door and turns to Wolverine and goes, "I can help you."

I was like, "YES! FASTBALL SPECIAL, BITCH! EEET IT!" and then Wolverine was like, "Help them!" and I was like, "FUCK YOU BITCH! FUCK YOU AND YOUR STUPID FUNNY HAIR!"

You smell that? Do you smell that? ...Napalm, son. Nothing else in the world smells like that. I love the smell of napalm in the morning. You know, one time we had a hill bombed for twelve hours. When it was all over I walked up. We didn't find one of 'em, not one stinkin' dink body. The smell, you know that gasoline smell, the whole hill. Smelled like... victory.
Rodent King
Stabbed in the Eye
posted 05-03-2003 03:29:08 AM

Too much iron in your blood...

My inner child is bigger than my outer adult.
Cheese
Pancake
posted 05-03-2003 08:02:06 AM
Where's Gambit!? I Gambit. I'll see the movie someday.
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Azeroth™
Want my opinion?
posted 05-06-2003 11:40:39 PM
Collosus didnt have the accent though, what the hell.

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Faelynn LeAndris
Lusty busty redheaded wood elf with sharp claws
posted 05-06-2003 11:58:41 PM
Okay Im glad I didn't read any of the spoilers in this thread, especially the one snoots made that Khyron wouldn't, since I just saw the movie... Damn.. Oh my god damn... If thats gonna be true, for one, it makes more sense to setup a continuation PAST Singers original trillogy, because your talking too many years developement on that whole thing for one movie to make it worth while...

A comic book movie sequel that surpasses the original, which was itself a badass movie...

And OP needs to just be forcefed being made to watch the old Captain America, or Flash TV shows, or any other numerous TV/Movies that use Comic book styles and costumes as to just how completely stupid he sounds about wanting to use the X suits, or follow strict storyline/strictures. Geez, Movies do not comic book make, and visa versa. Not an attack on your person, but at least on this subject, it just makes you sound relatively dumb when it comes to design elements.

Batman went the more comic route... Who here can say past the first, the second one being only SLIGHTLY within saving graces, were they even remotely good movies past camp factor harrassment. Well the main reason for that is because then went comic style. Same with Superman, and just about everything else.

The Shadow... Fantastic Four... The list goes on... And if they had done it to the X-Men it would have been laughable, and if X-Men had been laughable, Spideman would not have happened, nor would Daredevil or any of the other coolness comic book movies coming out. As well as thier sequels. Comic fanboi's of which I am one, just not the whiner on technicalities kind, that whine about costumes and strictures whould never ever be allowed to go near a movie studio lot to make thier visions.


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"Respect the Forest, Fear the Ranger"
I got lost for an hour and became god.
nem-x
posted 05-07-2003 12:05:50 AM
I love it long time. All the mutant powers were unleashed, and I was surprised to see people actually dying.

That one Magneto scene owned so much.

Black
The Outlaw Torn
posted 05-07-2003 12:08:26 AM
One of the scenes that stands out in my mind was when Wolverine killed that first Special Op.

The one he pinned to the fridge? I think it was the pure savagry of the attack that causes me to remember it so well. He slams both claws home with great force, then poses for a dramtic heavy breathing scene.

It was damn cool.



Time was never on my side.
So on I wait my whole lifetime.

Trent
Smurfberry Moneyshot
posted 05-07-2003 12:16:30 AM
The Magneto scene and Wolverine actually getting to be Wolverine, yay, excellent scenes.

I loved the entire movie.

Must get DVD as soon as I can.

Sakkra
Office Linebacker
posted 05-07-2003 12:16:54 AM
I loved the part in the Alkali Lake facility where Magneto pulled out all the soldiers' grenade pins. Comedy gold!
MorbId
Pancake
posted 05-07-2003 07:32:22 AM
quote:
And I was all like 'Oh yeah?' and Sakkra was all like:
I loved the part in the Alkali Lake facility where Magneto pulled out all the soldiers' grenade pins. Comedy gold!

The whole row of Waistzlings found that hilarious. We were about the only ones in the theatre who did, though.

Alt-F4
Pancake
posted 05-07-2003 07:56:25 AM
quote:
Comrade Snoota thought about the meaning of life:
A human bad-guy made up for the movie.

He was also in the X-men cartoon show(not the new version), but in it he is thin

"Well that still only counts as one."
-Gimli
Azizza
VANDERSHANKED
posted 05-07-2003 08:19:38 AM
This movie did indeed go above and beyond the first one. I am pretty suprised it got the rating it did. I figured with the body count it would have been an R rated movie. Then again you saw very little actual blood.

THe biggest complaint I have heard is nightcrawler. Many people don't like his looks. Personally I think they did a near perfect job of getting it right. *shrugs*

Rouge was indeed a bit of a disapointment. I was expecting her to pull something at the end. But she seemed to really take back stage to the rest of the team. Even Iceman and Pyro had more prominent roles.

"Pacifism is a privilege of the protected"
Mr. Crabs
Pancake
posted 05-07-2003 09:16:28 AM
Best line in the movie:
Wolverine after watching Mystique kick ass and take names: She's good.
Magneto: You have no idea.
There's a King on a throne with his eyes torn out.
There's a Blind Man looking for a shadow of doubt.
There's a Rich Man sleeping on a golden bed.
There's a Skeleton choking on a crust of bread.
Azrael Heavenblade
Damn Dirty Godmoder
posted 05-07-2003 11:10:46 AM
Some comic book history here, folks! Stryker was indeed in the X-Men books before the movie, but not in X-Force, but rather a small storyline called 'God Loves, Man Kills', in which he's this evangelical preacher guy leading a high-tech strike force(oho!) to wipe out mutants using a religious appeal to gain followers.

As to why Rogue lacks her strength/invulnerability in the movies...in the books she gets them permanently after virtually draining Ms. Marvel(Carol Danvers) of all her life force. Before she didn't have them. In the movies, it would be logical to assume this is pre-Ms. Marvel leeching. I don't know, I think it adds a bit of character to her, but I miss her comic book persona myself. She desperately needs a touch of Kloie-esque southern accent in the movies.

"The basic tool for manipulation of reality is the manipulation of words. If you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them." - Philip K. Dick
Fizodeth
an unflattering title
posted 05-07-2003 02:04:49 PM
quote:
Delphi Aegis got all f'ed up on Angel Dust and wrote:
She's wearing really thick lipstick?

Close, what more than likely happened is that Bobby created a lair of ice on his lips, and the second time, it just melted away before they were done. I think I remember something like this happening before in some comic or something.

What irks me is the way that Jean turns into Pheonix. I can understand why they did it, it would probably take another movie and more money than they can spend to put together the whole Pheonix storyline, and I can deal with that, but it would have been cool to see it.

I have a question though... Jason Stryker shows up, the name and powers seem familiar, but who was he? Proteous?

Elvish Crack Piper
Murder is justified so long as people believe in something different than you do
posted 05-07-2003 02:32:21 PM
Could be they are just going to give Jean Phoenix power minus dark phoenix storyline.

Possibly boby was drained a bit for the short peck of a kiss, but not enouph to notice it past standard boy kissing girl bit, then with the longer protracted kiss he started sghowing the popped veins look

(Insert Funny Phrase Here)
Gikk
SCA babe!!!
posted 05-07-2003 02:35:43 PM
Well, I -really- doubt they could have gone completely into the M'kran crystal fiasco, and all that... But evidently X3 is based on Phoneix, and they are planning like... 6 movies.

So we can hope.

Elvish Crack Piper
Murder is justified so long as people believe in something different than you do
posted 05-07-2003 02:38:18 PM
From information I have seen we have a guarenteed 4 total, this information is drawn from the contract of the guy who playes sabertooths. He isnt in this one, but has a contract for 2 more. Recently Ive been hearing about a 5th, but I dont know where that information is coming from. Where did your 6 appear?
(Insert Funny Phrase Here)
Star Collective
Pancake
posted 05-07-2003 02:41:36 PM
Went and saw it Saturday night. I am content and can now die happily.
The trouble is that we have a bad habit, encouraged by pedants and sophisticates, of considering happiness as something rather stupid. Only pain is intellectual, only evil interesting. This is the treason of the artist: a refusal to admit the banality of evil and the terrible boredom of pain. - Ursula K. LeGuin ~ The Ones Who Walk Away From Omelas
Azakias
Never wore the pants, thus still wields the power of unused (_|_)
posted 05-07-2003 07:14:28 PM
The two best scenes:

When Wolverine jumps from the second floor and completely obliterates the commandos

And when the adamantium chick grows claws and there comes a closeup on Wolverine's face, and he just says,"Holy shit..."

And was I the only one who found it funny that they were wearing jungle camo while inside the house?

"Age by age have men stood up and said to the world, 'From what has come before me, I was forged, but I am new and greater than my forebears.' And so each man walks the world in ruin, abandoned and untried. Less than the whole of his being"
Elvish Crack Piper
Murder is justified so long as people believe in something different than you do
posted 05-07-2003 07:22:36 PM
no, the camo was for when they were not in the house, when they were outside in foliage and whatnot
(Insert Funny Phrase Here)
Bajah
Thooooooor
posted 05-07-2003 07:26:35 PM
Upstate New York.. it's a jungle out there.
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