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Topic: Magic: The Gathering 'Doomsday'
Elvish Crack Piper
Murder is justified so long as people believe in something different than you do
posted 04-08-2003 05:50:34 AM
Why ise doomsday for the combo though Death?

Doomsday is useful for infinite loops that require you to draw through your deck.

The terravore shick works with balance an a zuran orb, plus using that 6th ED rare that puts a creature from hand into play.

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Falaanla Marr
I AM HOT CHIX
posted 04-08-2003 10:12:02 AM
ECP, just because you think Doomsday is supposed to be used one way doesnt mean its the ONLY way to use it. You arent God on Earth when it comes to magic.

[ 04-08-2003: Message edited by: Falaanla Marr ]

Pathos
Pancake
posted 04-08-2003 10:24:47 AM
I can't rmember the exact wording of it, but would it be possible to use Library of Leng in combination with this to prevent discard of library?
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Vorago
A completely different kind of Buckethead
posted 04-08-2003 10:51:42 AM
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Condom Ninja El Supremo
posted 04-08-2003 11:30:21 AM
Just thinking random here....

If someone plays Doomsday and on my next turn I play Shahrazad, doesn't that make my opponent instantly lose since he can't draw his 7 cards to start the game?

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Falaanla Marr
I AM HOT CHIX
posted 04-08-2003 12:07:18 PM
RIG: He would lose the subgame, so essentially sharazad would slice his life total in half.
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Condom Ninja El Supremo
posted 04-08-2003 12:38:01 PM
Timetwister if he's holding less than 2 cards in his hand and you win...
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"That was black magic, and it was easy to use. Easy and fun. Like Legos." -- Harry Dresden
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That's what playing Ragnarok Online taught me: There's no problem in the universe that can't be resolved by the proper application of daggers to faces.
Lenlalron Flameblaster
posted 04-08-2003 12:58:24 PM
For the terravore combo, just use cataclysm. Better card.
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Azymyth
Not gay; just weird
posted 04-08-2003 01:21:59 PM
quote:
From the book of Random Insanity Generator, chapter 3, verse 16:
Timetwister if he's holding less than 2 cards in his hand and you win...

Ah yes. Timetwister... got the $150 (or has it gone down recently?) so I can get me one?
I suffer from CRS: Can't Remember Shit.

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Pancake
posted 04-08-2003 02:04:12 PM
quote:
So quoth Death of Rats:
Ohh yea, a really cheap combo is Serra Avatar(toughness and strength are players heath points) with Soul Link(damage done to player or creature, player gains that much life).

You mean Spirit Link?

Delphi Aegis
Delphi. That's right. The oracle. Ask me anything. Anything about your underwear.
posted 04-08-2003 05:16:21 PM
quote:
Delyl Caledor wrote this stupid crap:
You mean Spirit Link?

[xIMG]http://www.findmagiccards.com/Img/X43Z/7E/Spirit%20Link.jpeg[/IMG]


Soul link is a reprint. ..

Apocalypse set, if I remember right.. Because I have three. Soul Link + Armadillo cloak = double life for attacking, yo.

Khyron
Hello, my mushy friend...
posted 04-08-2003 05:22:17 PM
Spirit link = You gain life per amount the creature DEALS.

Soul link = you gain life per amount the creature DEALS or is DEALT. http://www.findmagiccards.com/Cards/AP/Soul_Link.html

[ 04-08-2003: Message edited by: Khyron ]

Khyron
Hello, my mushy friend...
posted 04-08-2003 05:22:17 PM
This isn't a double post.

[ 04-08-2003: Message edited by: Khyron ]

Khyron
Hello, my mushy friend...
posted 04-08-2003 05:31:27 PM
Also... fun thing to do... green and white deck. Get a buttload of elves, buttload of 'draw' cards (Howling mines 2 win). Include a serra avatar with those 1g elves that have TAP : Add 1 life per elf in play.

I've won a game with 520 elves out (4 of those gain life elves), gaining 80 life per turn Mainly because he couldn't counter the unending flow of elves... and was only able to attack for 12 per turn. I won by default

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Pancake
posted 04-08-2003 06:05:29 PM
quote:
This one time, at Khyron camp:
Include a serra avatar with those 1g elves that have TAP : Add 1 life per elf in play.

Wellwisher?

Kegwen
Sonyfag
posted 04-08-2003 06:09:29 PM
quote:
This insanity brought to you by Random Insanity Generator:
Except that unless you're playing a Necropotence deck, you have 5 turns to win, or you die.

If you have no cards to draw, you lose.. remember?


There are cards that allow you to skip your draw phase, if I remember correctly..

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Pancake
posted 04-08-2003 06:11:46 PM
I need some ideas for a new deck. Anyone got anything creative that could be centered around these cards:

x2 Metalworkers

x3 Voltaic Key's

x2 Thran Dynamo's

x2 Worn Powerstone's

Maybe a drain life deck? Or add in some Colossus of Sardia?


What do you think?

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Pancake
posted 04-08-2003 06:13:22 PM
quote:
Kegwen probably says this to all the girls:
There are cards that allow you to skip your draw phase, if I remember correctly..

This is one that would work well.

[ 04-08-2003: Message edited by: Delyl Caledor ]

nem-x
posted 04-08-2003 06:18:02 PM
Kegwen
Sonyfag
posted 04-08-2003 06:18:46 PM
My friend plays a blue/white artifact deck.

from memory... *ahem*
2x Volatic Key
4x Temperal Aperature
4x Thran Dynamo
4x Sol ring
3x Rhystic Study
4x Counterspell
4x arcane denial
2x Serra Avatar
2x Serra Angel
2x Belbe's portal
2x Spirit Link
2x Inviolability
1x Dominating Licid
1x Ertai, Wizard Adept
1x Avatar of Hope
1x Relearn
1x Reminisce
2x or 3x (not sure) Seal of Cleansing
4x Disenchant
unknown amount of basic lands

and i'm probably missing some stuff, but his deck is ALWAYS 60 cards or less.

[ 04-08-2003: Message edited by: Kegwen ]

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Pancake
posted 04-08-2003 06:20:50 PM
I don't like when people play with less than 60 cards, it just doesn't sit right with me. I like to play by the rules.
Kegwen
Sonyfag
posted 04-08-2003 06:21:33 PM
quote:
This one time, at Delyl Caledor camp:
I don't like when people play with less than 60 cards, it just doesn't sit right with me. I like to play by the rules.

We go by the rule that states 45 is the minimum, whether or not that is current ruleset we don't care.

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Pancake
posted 04-08-2003 06:23:39 PM
Ahh, I've only been playing Magic for about 4 months now. I've never heard of that rule before lol.
Kegwen
Sonyfag
posted 04-08-2003 06:24:59 PM
quote:
Delyl Caledor Model 2000 was programmed to say:
Ahh, I've only been playing Magic for about 4 months now. I've never heard of that rule before lol.

I'm asking my friends where they got that rule from, because that's what I've always been told. =P

D.13.5 - Minimum of 60 cards in a deck. [Tournament Rules 1997/10/01]
D.17.4 - Minimum of 40 cards in the play deck.

60 for Tournies, then. (Source: http://www.crystalkeep.com/magic/rules/summaries.html )

[ 04-08-2003: Message edited by: Kegwen ]

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Condom Ninja El Supremo
posted 04-08-2003 06:26:52 PM
40 has always been the minimum.

Starter decks have 60 so that you can tweak the deck a bit without having to resort to boosters.

technically you're supposed to carry a 15 card sideboard anyway.

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"That was black magic, and it was easy to use. Easy and fun. Like Legos." -- Harry Dresden
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That's what playing Ragnarok Online taught me: There's no problem in the universe that can't be resolved by the proper application of daggers to faces.
Error
Pancake
posted 04-08-2003 06:29:21 PM
I asked my friend and he said that they changed that rule back when one of the expansions came out...I can't remember which one he said.
Elvish Crack Piper
Murder is justified so long as people believe in something different than you do
posted 04-08-2003 11:45:34 PM
quote:
Falaanla Marr stopped beating up furries long enough to write:
ECP, just because you think Doomsday is supposed to be used one way doesnt mean its the ONLY way to use it. You arent God on Earth when it comes to magic.

Eh, I can try cant I?

For the wellwiser thing, see about making it green/blue so you can play clone and dance of many, so you can have 12 wellwishers in play

Or go duel nature with those and get 24 48 72 or 96

Then play 4 seedborn muse and tap 384 wellwishers every turn. which, on there own net you 147456 life

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Suddar
posted 04-09-2003 12:04:24 AM
Elvish Crack Piper
Murder is justified so long as people believe in something different than you do
posted 04-09-2003 12:18:29 AM
You must love the oddessey pre-release card then dont you?

Even fast is Taunting elf+venom

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Azymyth
Not gay; just weird
posted 04-09-2003 01:06:31 AM
Is there a diffence between Sylvan Basilisk and Thicket (or whatever the original was) Basilisk?
I suffer from CRS: Can't Remember Shit.

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Elvish Crack Piper
Murder is justified so long as people believe in something different than you do
posted 04-09-2003 01:13:04 AM
Origanal Basilisk did the destroy effect at end of combat
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Delphi Aegis
Delphi. That's right. The oracle. Ask me anything. Anything about your underwear.
posted 04-09-2003 01:20:58 AM
For the record, put in more voltaic keys and thran dynamos. You get a LOT of colourless mana for very few cards that way. Though, not many things use colourless mana.. save life gain where it's like, WX and you get healed for X.
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Pancake
posted 04-09-2003 01:24:25 AM
quote:
Delphi Aegis stopped beating up furries long enough to write:
For the record, put in more voltaic keys and thran dynamos. You get a LOT of colourless mana for very few cards that way. Though, not many things use colourless mana.. save life gain where it's like, WX and you get healed for X.

Thanks for the advice...should I go with gain life deck or fireball deck then?

Kegwen
Sonyfag
posted 04-09-2003 01:26:11 AM
quote:
Delyl Caledor had this to say about Duck Tales:
Thanks for the advice...should I go with gain life deck or fireball deck then?

Anything X damage, fireball ain't the only one.

Delphi Aegis
Delphi. That's right. The oracle. Ask me anything. Anything about your underwear.
posted 04-09-2003 01:40:32 AM
quote:
And I was all like 'Oh yeah?' and Kegwen was all like:
Anything X damage, fireball ain't the only one.

Yeah, I wasn't sure if Fireball said that only red mana can be spent on X, though.

Sentow, Maybe
Pancake
posted 04-09-2003 01:44:33 AM
Well, damn it, nevermind. Dumb 'ole game.

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Azymyth
Not gay; just weird
posted 04-09-2003 03:23:19 AM
quote:
Kegwen spewed forth this undeniable truth:

4x Sol ring


Aren't those restricted?
I suffer from CRS: Can't Remember Shit.

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Elvish Crack Piper
Murder is justified so long as people believe in something different than you do
posted 04-09-2003 05:14:54 PM
Yes. Yes they are

Try to have crystal quarry in there, tis an uncommon in 6th edition

Comes itno play untapped, and can be tapped for 1 colorless or sacced and tapped for 2 colorless

Opening hand of the 2 CC that taps for 3 mana and untaps four four

then tap it to play a voltaic key you have 2 mana left

use key to untap voltaic key
1 mana left
untap the tap for 3 then tap for three

cast thran dynomo

nex turn get get like 6 mana, drop a masticore, kil lan elf or something.

Go find Jon Finkels Worlds deck from a view years ago and drool

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Elvish Crack Piper
Murder is justified so long as people believe in something different than you do
posted 04-09-2003 05:26:23 PM
Heres the doomsdat combo

quote:
Thanks to starcity

The Doomsday combo was thought up sometime after Weatherlight, and your five cards are Black Lotus, Lion's Eye Diamond, Timetwister, Regrowth, and either Braingeyser or Stroke of Genius. You form an infinite mana loop by casting Timetwister using Black Lotus, then taking green mana from Lion's Eye Diamond in response. You then replay the two artifacts and Regrow Timetwister, gaining one mana every iteration.


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Pancake
posted 04-09-2003 06:59:08 PM
quote:
When the babel fish was in place, it was apparent Elvish Crack Piper said:
Heres the doomsdat combo

[QUOTE]Thanks to starcity

The Doomsday combo was thought up sometime after Weatherlight, and your five cards are Black Lotus, Lion's Eye Diamond, Timetwister, Regrowth, and either Braingeyser or Stroke of Genius. You form an infinite mana loop by casting Timetwister using Black Lotus, then taking green mana from Lion's Eye Diamond in response. You then replay the two artifacts and Regrow Timetwister, gaining one mana every iteration.


[/QUOTE]

But how would that kill them? It's just creating infinite mana...not doing any dmg. And I don't have the money for a black lotus unless I use a proxy.

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