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We were all impressed when Frog wrote:
No, he was Mexican. He said that in the thread Bloodsage ran him off in.
Ahh...
It's not something people hear about.
Having lived in about 20 different states through the country and visited all over the world I can tell you without any doubt in my mind that people in the south are more openly racist than almost any other place I have ever been.
People in the south will also let a complete stranger in their house to use the phone, offer them dinner, and go to extreme lengths to make them comfortable while they wait for the tow truck.
People up north will flip you off if you wave at them and if you smile at them for no reason the wonder what angle you're working or what you want from them.
No I'm not saying 100% of the people do this in either case just that it is more prevalent behavior in those places.
I have racist yankee relatives too. I yell at them also. The difference is it's not the open and rude and anger sparking crap that happens in the south.
Same thing when people in other countries figure out you're american. Some countries they will be openly assholish to you and others you will never know they have any misgivings.
In all of the above the people are afraid of things they don't know or understand (and in some cases they don't WANT to know or understand).
I like Mar' grew up in a very very black neighborhood (my elementary school was 70-80% black). Funny how backgrounds can color your views isn't it?
One of the biggest things I LIKE about todays military is the ZERO TOLERANCE policy on racism. The only other place I've lived/worked where it was not much of an issue was in the prison I worked at in Nevada. I think that was because there really weren't enough people of differing races for it to be an issue though.
Still open mindedness is something I strive for on a day to day basis and any friends of mine are the same way.
But, I'm not really sure if he counts as black. I mean, his skin is black, but both his parents and his sister are white. And he is their natural son...
So, is it true that if you had some black heritage in you, and your parents were white, and their parents were white, and you were to have a child, that they could come out with black skin?
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A sleep deprived Azizza stammered:
Most southern people believe in judging a person by thier actions, not by thier looks.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
and i miss emil, he was funy when tryign to defend hismelf from"the evil rasicist" bloodsage
Racism is getting better...but it's got a loooooooooooong way to go before it's anything like up North.
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Tegadil had this to say about Matthew Broderick:
Faz: Yeah, some black people play EQ. Take my firned Nolan, for example. He plays EQ all the time...But, I'm not really sure if he counts as black. I mean, his skin is black, but both his parents and his sister are white. And he is their natural son...
So, is it true that if you had some black heritage in you, and your parents were white, and their parents were white, and you were to have a child, that they could come out with black skin?
I've read about black parents giving birth to white children, and a particular article about a couple with twins, one black, one white. It happens.
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I've read about black parents giving birth to white children, and a particular article about a couple with twins, one black, one white. It happens.
That couple had IVF and the clinic that performed the IVF techniques hadn't cleaned the petri dish used to collect male specimens. The one child is not the father's. [ 03-15-2003: Message edited by: Jajahotep ]
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We were all impressed when Azymyth wrote:
I'm a bisexual "Heinz 57" male.
And that's why we will make more money off you when we sell you to the black market. 
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Check out the big brain on Jajahotep!
That couple had IVF and the clinic that performed the IVF techniques hadn't cleaned the petri dish used to collect male specimens. The one child is not the father's.
How can one twin not have the same father as the other? That's impossible.
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When the babel fish was in place, it was apparent Tegadil said:
Faz: Yeah, some black people play EQ. Take my firned Nolan, for example. He plays EQ all the time...But, I'm not really sure if he counts as black. I mean, his skin is black, but both his parents and his sister are white. And he is their natural son...
So, is it true that if you had some black heritage in you, and your parents were white, and their parents were white, and you were to have a child, that they could come out with black skin?
It's extremely odd, but if it was a natural conception and pregnancy, then I do see how it would be possible. Black is basically just a skin pigment. More than likely, it is linked to a recessive gene. Otherwise, if the parents were carriers of the gene for it, it would be displayed in the parents, because dominant genes always display first. A recessive gene has to be present in both chromosomes that are given from the parents to be displayed.
So when you look at a Punnett square diagram, (not sure if you're familiar with those), you would need to have parents that both possess the recessive gene to have the black pigment in their skin. The father doesn't necessarily have to have it on both the X or Y he contributes to things, nor does the mother have to have it on both of her X's.
It does have to be present on the Y chromosome that the father gives, for a black son. And one of the mother's X's will need to carry the gene.
If that's the case, there is a 50% chance of having a white daughter (was she born first?). There is a 25% chance that the daughter will not carry the black pigment gene at all. And there is a 25% chance that she does carry it.
There's a 25% chance that they will produce a white son who carries the pigment. And a 25% chance that they will produce a black son.
Of course, if the mother is a carrier of the gene on both X chromosomes, then her daughters will all carry the gene. And any sons born to the family would all be black, since they will have the recessive gene on both the mother's donated X and the father's donated Y.
According to my figurings with the Punnett square diagram, it is unlikely the father carries on the X he can possibly donate as well. Because that would not allow for any white daughters, since every pairing would include two genes for the recessive black pigment trait, and so all daughters would also be black.
If they had more children, it would be easier to come to more conclusions. My bet is that they probably just carry one each, the mother on an X, the father on the Y. [ 03-15-2003: Message edited by: Lyinar Ka`Bael ]
Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin
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Verily, The leckie doth proclaim:
How can one twin not have the same father as the other? That's impossible.
I once saw an episode of Donahue where a mother slept with a man she was seeing, then slept with her ex-husband less than 24 hours later, and she ended up with twins with different fathers. Each sperm had fertilized a different egg, so they weren't technically identical, but they sure looked it.
Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin
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The leckie wrote this then went back to looking for porn:
I've read about black parents giving birth to white children, and a particular article about a couple with twins, one black, one white. It happens.
Hmm, given the information on the black couple with white children, it may be possible to say that black and white color are both recessive traits, and will express themselves irregularly.
Blonde hair and red hair behave the same way. They will both take a backseat to brown hair, but when they are given from two different parents, they can mix, or red can express, or blonde can express. There's no real way to predict.
Same with blue and green eyes. They take a backseat to brown. Brown is a dominant gene.
It could also be said that black pigment is dominant, only present on one X for the mother, and the Y for the father, and the daughter is the rarity. If this is a case, all boys will still be black, and there is a 25% chance of having a black daughter, and a 25% chance of having white carrier daughter. [ 03-15-2003: Message edited by: Lyinar Ka`Bael ]
Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin
But I'm not black...I live in Memphis...does that count?
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Moffles Puu had this to say about dark elf butts:
But I'm not black...I live in Memphis...does that count?
lmao
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How can one twin not have the same father as the other? That's impossible.
Identical twins come from one sperm and one egg that splits. Fraternal twins come from two fertilized eggs. That's how you get a set of twins that is a male and a female.
In that case, if someone was sloppy with the fertilization practices in the lab, it is conceivable that the two eggs could've been fertilized by two different men. Not likely, but possible.
On the OTHER hand...the likelihood of a woman without in vitro fertilization having children by two different men in the same pregnancy is incredibly low, and reflects a rare occurance where the ovaries have not only released two eggs in the menstrual cycle, but both have lodged in the walls of the womb. Releasing two eggs isn't THAT rare of an occurrence, but having them both stabilize in the wall of the womb is excessively rare.
The first case I would classify under "legally actionable lab error" and the second would be classified under "biological oddity".
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Lyinar Ka`Bael stumbled drunkenly to the keyboard and typed:
Hmm, given the information on the black couple with white children, it may be possible to say that black and white color are both recessive traits, and will express themselves irregularly.
Skin color is expressed with 3 genes, with dark colored skin always being dominant to light, if memory serves -- so a white child by black parents is a possibility.
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Miss Amber B.'s unholy Backstreet Boys obsession manifested in:
And that's why we will make more money off you when we sell you to the black market.
Do you know what "Heinz 57 means? 
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Someone Else had this to say about John Romero:
Skin color is expressed with 3 genes, with dark colored skin always being dominant to light, if memory serves -- so a white child by black parents is a possibility.
Well there ya go. I was going off just a basic single gene, as I've never really looked into what causes pigment.
I just wanted to show that genetically it was indeed possible, just unlikely.
Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin
Plus you're not counting recessive genetic flaws like albinism.
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