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Pancake
posted 07-12-2002 05:55:32 PM
Riiiiiiiiiight....

I'd like to see you tank a mob that's doing 1k DPS as a monk. Go ahead. Tank away.

Beep. Beep. Beep... Ohh... I think my porridge is done.
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Black
The Outlaw Torn
posted 07-12-2002 06:00:10 PM
End-game monks have 4500 unbuffed, so they could easily tank a mob doing 1k dps, super tough mobs that do ~3k dps, maybe not, but maybe so, hasn't been done, but that's not to say it can't be done.


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So on I wait my whole lifetime.

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Pancake
posted 07-12-2002 06:02:16 PM
Well, when warriors who have 6 to 8k in HP AND defenesive up can be slaughtered because of *1* heal fizzle, I dont think a 4.5k HP Monk is going to last long enough to get a heal....
Beep. Beep. Beep... Ohh... I think my porridge is done.
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Naota Nandaba
Don't ask me about any goddamned bannings!
posted 07-12-2002 06:02:33 PM
quote:
RPC wrote, obviously thinking too hard:
Did you get your shit?

Nope, only one group there last night. And they weren't on the Gorangas. I'm there now.

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Only the ordinary.
Cetona
Pancake
posted 07-12-2002 06:03:35 PM
Most end game mobs require the use of the defensive discipline, which only warriors have

And RPC, to me it looks like reynar implied that mitigation only has to do with level and nothing to do with AC

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Pancake
posted 07-12-2002 06:03:57 PM
quote:
Check out the big brain on Kegwen 2.0!
Nope, only one group there last night. And they weren't on the Gorangas. I'm there now.

I'll probally stop by there sometime this weekend. I really want the Grodan Idol and/or Axe. I need to work on my 2hs though.. it's still in the 140's.

Beep. Beep. Beep... Ohh... I think my porridge is done.
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Black
The Outlaw Torn
posted 07-12-2002 06:04:42 PM
quote:
A sleep deprived RPC stammered:
Well, when warriors who have 6 to 8k in HP AND defenesive up can be slaughtered because of *1* heal fizzle, I dont think a 4.5k HP Monk is going to last long enough to get a heal....
Not against 3k dps mobs, no.


Time was never on my side.
So on I wait my whole lifetime.

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Pancake
posted 07-12-2002 06:06:26 PM
quote:
Cetona enlisted the help of an infinite number of monkeys to write:
Most end game mobs require the use of the defensive discipline, which only warriors have

And RPC, to me it looks like reynar implied that mitigation only has to do with level and nothing to do with AC


I don't know what Reynar ment specifically, but I've watched enough uberguild fights on BB to know the nasty parts about AC caps... It does depend on level, but you can't compare a Warrior (apple) to a Wizard (orange).

Compare 2 level 60 warriors, one in high AC gear and one that just has enough AC to meet or barely exceed the cap. Both of them will get smacked around for the same amount, despite there being a 100, 200 or 500 point AC diff.

Beep. Beep. Beep... Ohh... I think my porridge is done.
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Pancake
posted 07-12-2002 06:07:48 PM
quote:
The Black Mage... impressed everyone with:
Not against 3k dps mobs, no.

Not against a 1k DPS mob unless you have an assload of clerics in your heal chain. If you use a warrior (or in some cases a Paladin) you can get away with fewer clerics in the heal chain, which means if you have extras they can nuke.

Beep. Beep. Beep... Ohh... I think my porridge is done.
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Naota Nandaba
Don't ask me about any goddamned bannings!
posted 07-12-2002 06:14:42 PM
quote:
RPC had this to say about Tron:
I'll probally stop by there sometime this weekend. I really want the Grodan Idol and/or Axe. I need to work on my 2hs though.. it's still in the 140's.

Somebody gave me a Goranga Idol. Ooooh special...

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Only the ordinary.
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Pancake
posted 07-12-2002 06:16:13 PM
quote:
And I was all like 'Oh yeah?' and Kegwen 2.0 was all like:
Somebody gave me a Goranga Idol. Ooooh special...

Bah... Check out the No Drop Grodan idol. 15 AC, 12 Str, some stam, some resists and RANGE SLOT.

Beep. Beep. Beep... Ohh... I think my porridge is done.
My fellow Americans, as you know, my foreign policy can be summed up in five words: "Iludium-236 Explosive Space Modulator."
When it comes down to it, searching the web without Google is like straining sewage with your teeth.
Naota Nandaba
Don't ask me about any goddamned bannings!
posted 07-12-2002 06:17:58 PM
quote:
RPC stopped beating up furries long enough to write:
Bah... Check out the No Drop Grodan idol. 15 AC, 12 Str, some stam, some resists and RANGE SLOT.

...*makes plans to stick around ME a bit longer*...

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Only the ordinary.
Naota Nandaba
Don't ask me about any goddamned bannings!
posted 07-12-2002 06:30:10 PM
Got one. Yay.
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Pancake
posted 07-12-2002 06:39:25 PM
Lucky bastard.

I imagine that I'll be sitting on my ass a couple of days to get one...

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Naota Nandaba
Don't ask me about any goddamned bannings!
posted 07-12-2002 06:45:07 PM
Heh, a group from Blood of the Spider showed up and proceeded to own them rather quickly and easily.
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Zebsis Morbidfist
Pancake
posted 07-12-2002 06:49:40 PM
And my EQ decides to freeze up while zoning to Dawnshroud with this character. =p
JooJooFlop
Hungry Hungry Hippo
posted 07-12-2002 07:24:57 PM
Good luck getting a Strength of Grodan. While it used to drop off of umberous toilers now it only drops off a rare spawn.

But sometimes an unwanted Axegoeth's Belt of Defense drops when people are hunting the Xin Thall Centians.

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Pancake
posted 07-12-2002 07:26:18 PM
/drool

I'd take the belt, but I can't use it till I get a cloak haste item or something else.

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When it comes down to it, searching the web without Google is like straining sewage with your teeth.
JooJooFlop
Hungry Hungry Hippo
posted 07-12-2002 07:27:53 PM
You could always get some Silver Chitin Hand Wraps.
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Pancake
posted 07-12-2002 07:28:53 PM
I've got a pair, but the stats suck...

And I'd have to give up my primatve leather (AC 12, 8 Str, 8 Stam) for it... I know the other belt has like 15 Str, but no stam...

Beep. Beep. Beep... Ohh... I think my porridge is done.
My fellow Americans, as you know, my foreign policy can be summed up in five words: "Iludium-236 Explosive Space Modulator."
When it comes down to it, searching the web without Google is like straining sewage with your teeth.
JooJooFlop
Hungry Hungry Hippo
posted 07-12-2002 07:33:32 PM
One source of stamina you can get for the face is from a Horned Beetle Mask. 6ac 4str 3sta 6svp 6svm 5 charges of Ultravision.

Just slaughter rhinobeetles in Hollowshade Moor until Gorehorn shows up. It's his common drop. He's about as strong as an old world giant.

[Edit: You can also replace your Drolvarg Mantle with Crested Spaulders if you can wear them.]

[ 07-12-2002: Message edited by: JooJooFlop ]

I don't know how to be sexy. If I catch a girl looking at me and our eyes lock, I panic and open mine wider. Then I lick my lips and rub my genitals. And mouth the words "You're dead."
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Pancake
posted 07-12-2002 07:46:34 PM
Crested Spaulders would make up the difference quite nicely...

3 stam just doesn't mean that much when you're losing 8..

Beep. Beep. Beep... Ohh... I think my porridge is done.
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JooJooFlop
Hungry Hungry Hippo
posted 07-12-2002 07:50:12 PM
And the AC you would lose from the agi you would gain in raw AC from the spaulders. If you got the mask the hit in dex would suck but the added str, sta and resists would make up for it.

And at least try to get a BA Coif if you don't get the SSB.

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Pancake
posted 07-12-2002 07:55:12 PM
I've been keeping an eye out for the BA Crown as it would be a nice upgrade from the old BI Coif (I'll bet this is a rare ass helm now. )...

I str cap when buffed though. I don't need more Str unless I'm gonna try to be a full str warrior. Personally, I'd rather be a Full Stam warrior over a Full Str warrior. HoS/Focus doesn't give stam...

Beep. Beep. Beep... Ohh... I think my porridge is done.
My fellow Americans, as you know, my foreign policy can be summed up in five words: "Iludium-236 Explosive Space Modulator."
When it comes down to it, searching the web without Google is like straining sewage with your teeth.
Zebsis Morbidfist
Pancake
posted 07-12-2002 08:03:26 PM
Magelo update.
-Yuri-
Pancake
posted 07-12-2002 10:28:40 PM
quote:
The Black Mage... had this to say about the Spice Girls:
High-end Monks tank better than High-End Warriors.

I hope your kidding.

Being 'High End' as you say, I have NEVER seen a monk tank a mob, its just not going to happen. Every raid my guild does MUST have a 60 warrior tanking. Mobs like vindi/KT/Dain ect. require a 60 warrior with 1200+ AC and /disc defensive. If you dont have a warrior, You don't have a raid.

Monks have HP sure, but they don't have AC or /disc defensive. Therefore, they make crappy tanks.

Also, Do not worry that much about your warrior doing damage. A warriors job is to get hit and get hit alot. AC(until 1200)>HP>Damage. Get proccing weaps to gain aggro if needed; just dont worry about 'not doing enough damage'.

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