--Satan, quoted by John Milton
I see it now, and now it's going to torture me forever. Shit. 
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Delphi Aegis was listening to Cher while typing:
Like, vertically not in line with the other headers (Rating, replies, etc etc) or horizontally not in line in terms of the column that it heads? If its horizontal, make IE use the default page's font and fontsize. That'd prolly fix it.
It's like, a milimetre higher than the other headers. It's got nothing to do with the font, they're all the same size.
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Suddar Williams's fortune cookie read:
It's like, a milimetre higher than the other headers. It's got nothing to do with the font, they're all the same size.
Honestly, does it really matter? .. I consider myself anal retentive about things, but if that bothers you, jeez.. 
Highlight the headers. Notice the highlight covers more up/down on the other headers then on the "Last Post"? I'll bet that has something to do with it.
Doesn't bother me much.
So neener to you.
BTW, I can't use the IE "default font," because it's microscopic at 1600x1200.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
I'm going to bed now. Hopefully by morning I can forget this thread ever existed.
Okay, I'm done now.
Yeah...
*wanders off*
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Bloodsage was listening to Cher while typing:
Hey, as long as we've confirmed I'm not hallucinating from too much writing, I'm happy.BTW, I can't use the IE "default font," because it's microscopic at 1600x1200.
That was only a suggestion if it was out of line horizontally. It isnt.
I've been meaning to jack up my resolution just to see how high I can really go. Dont want to leave 1024x768 though..
I use 1600x1200 so I can have two instances of Word open side-by-side to cut/paste between them for my writing and research. Without a really big monitor, though, it's a serious pain.
It's an eye test on my 19", and just getting reasonable on my wife's 21" monitor.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
Now I'm all paranoid, and nothing looks straight any more.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
But I'll be the first to admit I don't see straight at 0120 after typing for hours on end.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
I just took my resolution all the way down to 800x600, and there was clearly a gap.
The bottom of the "L" does not line up with the "g."
I'm pretty sure.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
It's not supposed to be level, it's supposed to look level.
Damn. I'm just too tired tonight. And I've got a lot of writing left to do. sadf.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
I am not crazy.
Maybe it's because I'm in 1600x1200 with "Larger" fonts selected in IE, but I just did the same thing you did, and the base of the "L" was a third of the way into the loop of the "g."
Neener.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
See that icon in the box with LAST POST? You know, the one that refreshes the page and moves the red line. Well, that's what's causing it. Sort of.
In the LAST POST box, the text is centered vertically. In all the others, it's aligned with the bottom of the box. Since there's a buffer at the bottom, it's not sitting directly on the line.
Depending on how your computer displays the default font for EC, the text may be one pixel taller or shorter. The image, however, stays the same size for everyone. So if your browser shows the text small enough, then you'll notice a misalignment of the words LAST POST. However, if the letters are as tall as the refresh icon, then you won't see a difference.
[edit] Or maybe I've got that reversed. Whatever, you get the idea. [ 05-14-2002: Message edited by: Ford Prefect ]
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Bloodsage had this to say about Captain Planet:
But I'll be the first to admit I don't see straight at 0120 after typing for hours on end.
Getting rid of am and pm I see.
WTG! 
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This one time, at Ford Prefect camp:
In the LAST POST box, the text is centered vertically. In all the others, it's aligned with the bottom of the box. Since there's a buffer at the bottom, it's not sitting directly on the line.Depending on how your computer displays the default font for EC, the text may be one pixel taller or shorter. The image, however, stays the same size for everyone. So if your browser shows the text small enough, then you'll notice a misalignment of the words LAST POST. However, if the letters are as tall as the refresh icon, then you won't see a difference.
[edit] Or maybe I've got that reversed. Whatever, you get the idea.
Erm.. no.. the words "Last Post" are bottom aligned... The fact that you may see a gap is because there is a table inside of the cell. Observe:
code:<TD align="center">
<FONT SIZE="1" COLOR="#00ffff" FACE="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">
<B>Rating</B></FONT>
</TD>
<TD>
<table border=0 cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0 width="100%">
<tr><td align="left" valign="bottom">
<FONT SIZE="1" COLOR="#00ffff" FACE="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">
<B>Last Post</B></FONT></td>
<td align="right" valign="middle"><img src="http://forums.evercrest.com/ubb/updatelastreadtime.gif" width=52 height=15 border=0></td>
</tr></table>
</TD>
All browsers will read this differently.... If you use IE and keep it up to date, there will be no gap
So, having looked at the HTML code, here's the problem and the solution as I see it.
The first two data cells of that row have non breaking spaces in them. These non breaking spaces are not assigned a FONT SIZE value, so they are defaulting to the pages default FONT size for tables, which in most version of IE is 3. These non breaking spaces are forcing the row to take up more vertical realestate.
The last data cell contains a nested TABLE. The height of this table, being only one row, is defined by the "Update Last Read Time" graphic. Which is the largest thing, vertically, in that table; but, it still takes up less vertical space than the FONT size 3 non breaking spaces. So the nested table is vertically aligning to the middle of the data cell it is in, since that is the default for the IE versions Bloodsage and I seem to be using, then it's contents are aligning themselve as they were told to do. The end result is the text aligning higher than it should because of FONT size not being assigned to the non breaking spaces.
So, there are two possible fixes.
1. Wrap the non breaking spaces in FONT size 1 just like the rest of the text on that row.
2. Set the final data cell, the one that holds the nested TABLE, to VALIGN=bottom.
FURTHER... on browser compatibilty and the reason some people are seeing it properly.
New web standards are adopted for each version of a browser. The newest browser version may stipulate that the non breaking space takes up horizontal realestate only. This would weed out the vertical issues. But, this part is just a guess.
And you're likely risking severe alignment abnormalities in browsers like Netscape who have a proven track record of screwing up web standards.
HEIGHT=100% on that table is not a good solution. Changing the FONT size of the non breaking spaces, since they are text elements, is the best thing to do. [ 05-14-2002: Message edited by: Woody ]
