iton man might also be kinda cool, it just seems like it kinda needs a huge budget to work and they need to make the script just right

and i jsut relizd i forgot to mention, YAE, NIGHTCRAWLER, my all time favourtie x men member, now they just need to add morph

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Sad fact is that if you created characters like Wolverine today they probably wouldn't go over real big. Wolverine came in at the right time in the right place and was gifted with some brilliant writers to keep him going. Hell, Sabretooth (Wolvie's primary villain) needed several facelifts to keep him interesting, first by explaining his insanity, then building up some history with Wolverine, then having Wolverine stab him through the brain and work through 'Tooth's recovery. And they fucked with Wolverine by yanking the Adamantium out of his body (either the most brilliant or the most stupid thing conceivable, depending on who you ask).

So they take a similar cookie cutter and make Gambit. I have the issues where Gambit first appears when Storm's been turned into a little kid. How that guy got turned into this badass is beyond me. Good artists and low audience expectation would be my guess; his entry onto the scene was before recent X-Men rennaissance, you might keep in mind. Then when he wasn't keeping up with other characters they toss in some hastily-made back story like they did with Sabretooth and go from there.

So he's there to appeal to folks who think he has style out the ass, and that's okay. It's a comic book movie and you don't have to develop characters much. *shrugs*

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no, the stupidest thing they did to fuck wolverine up was give him his admantium back and make him one of the four horsemen of apocolipse

is it jsut me or was that hte stupidest way posiple to give him back his skeliton

(Well, not really but I like the thought of having read only the best comics. )

But Spidey is as good as ever. I just love Spider-Man. Peter Parker is the perfect mix of person.

And yes! Gambit! I looooooove Gambit!

As I heard it, it later turned out that Reilly was indeed the clone, and the Peter returned to NYC to spin webs and kick ass.

The whole clone thing was really absurd, ya ask me. Ten times an issue, you had the Jackal going, "Okay, really, the honest to god truth is that this person, that person, and Ben are all clones. OR ARE THEY?! HA HA HAAAAAAAA!"

Intensely irritating.

Then there was the whole Onslaught thing. Great build up in the storyline. I thought the Onslaught thing was cool. I thought "Hey here's something that's going to unite the Marvel Universe's elements" but then they just turned around and used it to relaunch a bunch of comics in the "Heroes Lost" and "Heroes Reborn" stories. Big mistake.

In the eighties, DC comics realized that it had some serious problems. Things that happened in one comic never really carried over to other comics. Any time something serious happened and it was inconvenient, they'd write it off as happening on an alternate Earth or it was a possible future. And it was mucking up continuity severely. So they had an event called the Crisis on Infinite Earths, where an entity called the Anti-Monitor destroyed all of the alternate Earths out there. And DC got a guy in and they rebuilt continuity. They decided certain facts...like how strong Superman is. Who's the second toughest character in the universe next to Supes, etc. They stayed away from time travel storylines. They gave everyone their own little niche. DC explored new territories (like the Sandman comics, Wildstorm comics that make things like Battle Chasers and Crimson). And DC hasn't suffered, really, since then. Marvel's almost gone bankrupt several times. Sometimes you have to mess with icons, but only so far as you keep the general momentum of the character. They've changed Green Lanterns before, and there have been three Flash's. But what Marvel has never seemed to grasp is that you can't destroy the icon or it's momentum. It messes things up, and then you have to ruin continuity to fix it.