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The Otaku Penguin attempted to be funny by writing:
Isn't Online Relationships (outside of RPing) an oxy-moron?
Yaes.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
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Check out the big brain on The Otaku Penguin!
Isn't Online Relationships (outside of RPing) an oxy-moron?
Nope. You and I have an online relationship. It's not the same as say the one Karnaj and I have. Both of which are completely (luckily) different from the one that Lazzy and I have.
You can form relationships with anyone over any medium, as long as the medium and the will is there. As for romantic relationships; the same applies, they are just different from ones you form in person.
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Delphi Aegis had this to say about Cuba:
Ah women, they make the highs higher, and the lows more frequent.
I believe Beta is talking about another male in this case, but that really isn't relevant.
I know how ya feel, man.
Anyways, personally, through my experiences, dating type relationships have not worked out. Freindships? Hell yes. [ 04-22-2002: Message edited by: The Otaku Penguin ]
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MaxlisKudro's account was hax0red to write:
Argh the agony they can cause. Oh the frustration!
You're right... Or any relationship for that matter. 
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Kegwen's fortune cookie read:
I believe Beta is talking about another male in this case, but that really isn't relevant.I know how ya feel, man.
Meet girl on ICQ, good friends with girl. Blossom into more then friends.. Meet in RL, 2 days later she says she "isnt ready for a relationship". Fuck that bitch.
/vent
Ah. Thanks. 
I am in love with a woman whom I've met online. She is in love with me. We talk on the phone frequently. We talk over EQ or YIM more frequently. We love each other, and as soon as circumstances allow, we will meet each other.
So, do you say we only have an "online" relationship, or are we two people in love who just haven't met face to face yet?
I choose B.
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The Otaku Penguin had this to say about John Romero:
Isn't Online Relationships (outside of RPing) an oxy-moron?
Hello?
Wtf do you think Deth and I are? :P
Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin
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Lyinar probably says this to all the girls:
Hello?Wtf do you think Deth and I are? :P
The Whipee and the Whiper?
Picking on Deth never gets old. =\ [ 04-22-2002: Message edited by: Comrade_Snoota ]
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The Otaku Penguin painfully thought these words up:
Isn't Online Relationships (outside of RPing) an oxy-moron?
Fuck no.
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The Otaku Penguin's account was hax0red to write:
Isn't Online Relationships (outside of RPing) an oxy-moron?
Depends on the type of relationship, doesn't it?
Right now, with Tori (Suchii), that's all I have. And damnit, I'm happy for it. And someday, it will be ever so much more.
Anyway what it means is that there are ups and downs to the relationship possibilities.
One of the downsides, clearly. is that someone can lie to you very easily. People handing out pictures that aren't of themselves, people claiming to be different genders than they really are, people claiming to be older or younger than they really are, all sorts of hell. There have been plenty of cases where people go off half cocked to meet someone and end up dead.
In fact there are new laws going down on the books all the time concerning online interactions. In some states, lawmakers are working on passing (or have passed) lawss where online "affairs" are legally admissable as grounds for divorce on the basis of emotional anguish. And everyone's heard stories of pedophiles on the net.
But they're not the majority. They just get attention because they're bizarre or disturbing.
The advantages of an online relationship are also, these days, stereotyped. You can get to know someone, yes we all know that. It also helps some people get past shyness. Some people can go very far in their lives, have very professional, satisfying lives but have trouble meeting people. Not to mention a lot of other people.
But online relationships aren't the balm or cure all, and certainly shouldn't be seen as a silver bullet to the quest for companionship. Lyinar and I, before our current relationship, broke up several times over what, to us now, seem like silly squabbles. But they happened. No getting around that fact. Even in good relationships you're going to have trouble, sometimes serious arguments, sometimes even breakups, before people are mature enough to handle a mature, lasting relationship. And being online doesn't change that fact. Likewise, for all the pain I felt when Lyinar and I broke up, I think that overall all teenagers have to go through a "toughening up" period. Have to decide what you really want out of life, and have to spread your wings a bit to work that out.
But I don't think it should necessarily draw attention or matter if a relationship is online or not. They're no more or less viable than any other.
sigpic courtesy of This Guy, original modified by me
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KaLourin DthBlayde said this about your mom:
Synjari and I were in an online relationship for some 2-4 years. We've been living together for the past 3.
same here, Molly and I have known each other for 5 years, been dating for 2 1/2 years, living together for 1 year and we got married in february.
We met on a telnet talker.
not to hijack the thread but, show of hands, who here even knows what that is? [ 04-23-2002: Message edited by: Kermitov ]
Back, "Before the beginning" when I was new to the internet they were the hot thing... not so much anymore.
But living in different states, with a few inbetween, is kind of frustrating. It leaves you wanting a certain aspect of a relationship that you cant get online no matter what, the physical aspect.
And yes, online relationships are a real form of relationship, otherwise there would be very few people online if they couldn't make friends over the net. The type of relationship, be it friendship or romantic, doesn't change that fact.
Anyways, I'm off to play some half life mods and drink some coffee, I'll check on this thread later.
However, mental anguish is the most notable thing to accompany an online relationship. If you break up, then you're going to be kicking yourself for having thought that it was possible to mantain a relationship online. Or if you keep the relationship, you can get extreamly frustrated by not being able to see the person you're talking with(He has a 56k, so something like a webcam wouldn't work to well) or be able to hug and kiss them as you would in real life...
Just my two cents on that part of it. Now off to the killing and stuff.
But think for a moment about the phrase, "We've never met, but we're in love."
I'll add no further commentary. Just explore the implications of the phrase.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
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MaxlisKudro had this to say about pies:
Also, one more thing before I go. Online relationships give one of the best ways of getting to know some one. There is no temtation to lie . . . .
What color is the sky on your planet?
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
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i didnt really accomplish anything in this post, did i?
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Bloodsage enlisted the help of an infinite number of monkeys to write:
What color is the sky on your planet?
There was more to that quote ass head. No temtation to lie to get them in bed. Hawt sybar doesn't count. There are always going to be liars out there, I'm not that naive.
Clearly, you separated the temptation to lie from the other aspects of the interaction.
Hence, my comment was valid.
Hence, it is not me who is an asshead, but you who are incoherent.
Hence, my comment was valid.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
Better?
I'd go back and edit the post to make myself clearer but it's too late.
Grammar is, indeed, important if one wants to be understood. (Aimed not at you, but at those who whine they shouldn't have to write coherently.)
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
I mean, come on...how many people are out there in chatrooms right now pretending to be female for hot sybar? 
Online relationships are risky, moreso than any other kind I've heard of. But the ones that last are probably the most fulfilling when everything is said and done. I know you probably won't agree, Bloodsage, but I tend to think so for reasons I'm not motivated enough to go into.
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Delphi Aegis typed this:
Meet girl on ICQ, good friends with girl. Blossom into more then friends.. Meet in RL, 2 days later she says she "isnt ready for a relationship". Fuck that bitch.
Allow me to translate. She meant to say, "Sorry, you looked better online."
That way, you can also guage their personality to some degree.
And yeah, omfg Im in love with a girl over the internet. It's not that big of a deal. Someday we shall meet, and Ill no doubt pass out on the floor, but once Im conscious again, should work out just fine
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Mightion Defensor had this to say about Captain Planet:
Maybe it helps to define the term "online" as the medium of the relationship, not as a qualifier.I am in love with a woman whom I've met online. She is in love with me. We talk on the phone frequently. We talk over EQ or YIM more frequently. We love each other, and as soon as circumstances allow, we will meet each other.
So, do you say we only have an "online" relationship, or are we two people in love who just haven't met face to face yet?
I choose B.
He read my mind. It's quite scary.
I met the person who lies in bed next to me every night online, and I've never been happier. So bugger off.
What designates two people as "met" and another two as "have not met"?
Verbal interaction? Exchange of names? Visual contact?
All are possible through a computer. I see no reason why you can't "meet" someone online so far as the definition of "meeting" goes.
So, you can meet people online. Do you need more than a meeting to fall in love?
I guess that depends on who you ask. <---the thesis of my post
Understand thier personality? Feel an empathy with them? Have things in common? Share enjoyable experiences?
You can do all of these online.
Share physical contact? Go to real-life places with each other? Copulate?
Can't do these.
While online is undoubtedly a perfectly valid place in which to meet people, how can one honestly claim to be in any kind of real relationship when, by definition, one is missing most of the information in each communique?
There are a lot of people in the world, and it seems silly to me to settle for a relationship in which most of the communication is missing.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
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Bloodsage attempted to be funny by writing:
Those who know a little about communications will realize that nonverbal clues make up the majority of information in a conversation. Such things are utterly lacking in any kind of online relationship.While online is undoubtedly a perfectly valid place in which to meet people, how can one honestly claim to be in any kind of real relationship when, by definition, one is missing most of the information in each communique?
There are a lot of people in the world, and it seems silly to me to settle for a relationship in which most of the communication is missing.
I dunno..
Maybe I'm online a bit too much, but it's not too hard to pick up clues to how people are feeling or what they're thinking through what they type. There's a lot of things you can tag onto a line of text to put some feeling into it. For me, it's not hard to experience those things. And it's those things I found I enjoyed the most from online relationships.
It's not the same, but it's still valid.
And I happen to be very good at picking up on personal quirks and misnomers. And I can usually tell how someone is feeling, possibly with a natural empaty. And Im usually about 90% correct in my assumptions, which my friends around here can probably vouche for. I know when and what they are feeling more often than not, and it's not all that hard to adjust to it. I connect really well with people sometimes, it just works out that way.
