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Maradön? impressed everyone with:
Yes yes, for only $474 your gamecube can be as cool as the "real" consoles! minus all the cool games, of course
another maradön dumps on gamecube post!
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This insanity brought to you by Liam:
Notice everyone so far has failed to read the "Panasonic" label on the GameCube.
Didn't fail to notice... just don't care
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So quoth Liam:
Notice everyone so far has failed to read the "Panasonic" label on the GameCube.
This was the original Panasonic/Nintendo NGC-DVD model that was slated originally to only appear in Japan. NOA Deemed it too expensive a jump for american audiences, and said that the fact most american would already have or be getting a seperate DVD player which made it pointless. So originally it wasn't supposed to come out in the US, because there was no reason to bring it out. Enough people complained that NGC wasn't going to play DVD's though, that I guess they decided to bring it over.
To me it makes no sense. My console should play games, my DVD player should play movies. I don't WANT a combo machine. I mean combo machines are notorious for falling behind in at least one of thier respective components, and often times both. I mean I own an X-Box and a PS2, but thats mainly cause I want to play everything. I would have been happier had they been just plain consoles. Not to mention I have to pay extra just to get DVD on the X-Box, which I wont do. And PS2 playback is kinda crappy in my opinion. I'll stick with my APEX Player thank you.
Although that box does look spiffy! Not worth the money, but spiffy.
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Maradön?'s unholy Backstreet Boys obsession manifested in:
Yes yes, for only $474 your gamecube can be as cool as the "real" consoles! minus all the cool games, of course
GameCube is a game console, it doesn't NEED to play movies. Thats not what it was designed for.
So this message was brought to you by, the hopelessly lame love me GameCube haters association.
Not that one above .. but a regular Game cube.
My little brother has PS2, so I can still watch DVD!
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Check out the big brain on dontauro!
I'll pay anyone 500 bucks to smash that for me! Any takers?
"Don't want to sound like a fanboy, but I am with you. I'll buy it for sure, it's just a matter of for how long I will be playing it..."
- Silvast, Battle.net forums
Actually I just MIGHT concider spending the cash on that one for the looks, fits more with my decor and really does look spiffy.. But they need to make a regular non-DVD version in that style, so it's cheaper, but still looks as cool.
A gamecube wouldn't
Cubeness = Novelty
And yes, I bash Nintendo. I haven't the slightest shred of respect for them. In fact, I downright hate Nintendo. I feel they give video games a bad name, branding them trivial, shallow, idle playthings. It sickens me to see video games trivialized like that.
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Maradön? had this to say about pies:
Yes yes, for only $474 your gamecube can be as cool as the "real" consoles! minus all the cool games, of course
Except that the DVD player in it is made by panasonic which means it might actually be a good one.
die plz k thx. [ 04-15-2002: Message edited by: Kermitov ]
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Maradön? obviously shouldn't have said:
And yes, I bash Nintendo. I haven't the slightest shred of respect for them. In fact, I downright hate Nintendo. I feel they give video games a bad name, branding them trivial, shallow, idle playthings. It sickens me to see video games trivialized like that.
Yet Nintendo are one of the big ones that BROUGHT video games to the mainstream.
While they may not have been the first, Ill be damned if they arent the most recognized game system, the one that in the early days pioneered the video gaming industry as we know it today.
I remember back when I was 6 or 7, I enjoyed those shallow games. They WERE fun.
Now, the first real generation of gaming kids are growing up. Those of us that cut our teeth on the nintendo are wanting bigger and better things.
The XBOX and PS2 are filling that gap for us. But what about the NEXT generation of gamer kids? Surely, the games like Resident Evil and such arent going to be appropriate for them, now are they? Nope. Thats where nintendo comes in. Nintendo targets the audience that enjoys simpler things. While YOU may not enjoy simple games, quite a few people do. Quite a few people dont HAVe the time to devote to a game of epic proportions such as Final Fantasy type games. They want to be able to get a few friends together on a weekend and play games, and dont wanna spend much.
Not liking Nintendo is one thing. Disrespecting and HATING them, saying that you have no respect for them after what they have done for the industry? Thats a bit off, doncha think?
Nintendo DOESNT give Video games a bad name, no more so than Atari did back in the day or whatnot. Remember, the TARGET audience for most games are those that are about 10-25 years old. While YOU may not like some of Nintendo's games, I can bet ya the lower range of ages DOES like them. The LOWER age range may not like the PS2 and the XBOX because they are too "adult" of systems. Heck, who knows.
Now, Ill tell ya, I wont be buying a 500 dollar gamecube. My 199 dollar one works JUST FINE thank you.
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Falaanla Marr had this to say about Duck Tales:
Yet Nintendo are one of the big ones that BROUGHT video games to the mainstream.
Brought bastardized video games to the juvenile mainstream
Pre-N64, Nintendo, as a console, hadn't degraded to the point that they have today. They actually had third party support, mainly because it was a choice between them and Sega, and they actually let thier third party developers make something worthwhile occasionally. [ 04-15-2002: Message edited by: Maradön? ]
Rush 'n Attack.
Tetris.
Mario Brothers.
Arkanoid.
Arkanoid 2: Revenge of DoH.
Marble Madness.
Donkey Kong, et. al.
These are all games that were brought from the Arcade to the home by Nintendo. Just because you hate PokeMon doesn't mean you have to hate Nintendo.
Besides... PsyDuck > Maradon + Duckstick.
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RPC had this to say about Robocop:
These are all games that were brought from the Arcade to the home by Nintendo.
The fact that every last one of them is pre-N64 supports what I just said nicely [ 04-15-2002: Message edited by: Maradön? ]
Lessee... N64....
Tetrisphere. That was enjoyable.
MKT.. if you're into finger pain from poor controller design.
Mario Kart 64 was fun.
The N64 Zelda Games were rather amusing from what several friends told me. Almost as frustrating at times as Zelda 2 was.
I'm still waiting for the next Metroid. They owe me that much.
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RPC painfully thought these words up:
The fact that you're good at ninja editing comments before someone has a chance to finish replies has nothing to do with that, eh?
That's why pencils have erasers. Besides, all I did was add the word "just"
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Silvain wrote, obviously thinking too hard:
I just want to point out that the Playstation wouldn't even exist without Nintendo. Afterall, the Playstation started as an expansion on the SNES.
You'd have a point if that were true.
That's a big if.
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Maradön?'s unholy Backstreet Boys obsession manifested in:
Brought bastardized video games to the juvenile mainstreamPre-N64, Nintendo, as a console, hadn't degraded to the point that they have today. They actually had third party support, mainly because it was a choice between them and Sega, and they actually let thier third party developers make something worthwhile occasionally.
I agree entirely with Fal, Maradon, grow the hell up. Atari was the first, then it was Nintendo. For a while, it was ONLY Nintendo. They brought us such great games as Mario Bros., Legend of Zelda, among others. Everybody played them who had a mind to, adults and kids. Now, those kids are grown up, and want something a little different, more challenging. PS2 and X-Box are catering only to those interests, which is why you worship them apparently. But...the Playstation has made its attempt at getting at the kiddie market. Anyone remember Crash Bandicoot?(Which has ironically now switched to the X-Box) Spyro, that game where you run around catching monkeys with those flashing lights on their heads, Croc, the list goes on. The PS1 was NOT just a teen and adult gaming system.
As for PS2 and X-Box dominating the market, Nintendo is going to die OMFGLOLFORLDZ...no. The target market of those two systems right now is solely for the more mature market, Nintendo is starting out with perhaps a greater variety of games if less games than the other systems, but it's young yet, give it time to get stuff out of production.
And on that subject, to address the N64 as a kiddie only system....anyone remember Turok, helllllooooo? Quake, Doom, various MK games, and others joined Nintendo on the Mature rating scale. Heck, they even made a great translation of RE2 for the 64 for cryin out loud! I am so sick of people blaming the system to be too juvenile because that's what 2/3 of the system produces, which was parallel to the PS1 at the time.
Now, the Gamecube has some good games in the works...Metroid looks to be good, Squaresoft has started working for them again, so we may see some Gamecube RPGs, yey. And, it will probably only take up two minidiscs unlike the standard four for PS The X-Box also doesn't have that much variety yet either, Halo is a huge success, but I haven't seen people playing that many other games for it yet, simply because it HASN'T produced many other games. These two systems are the youngest ones in the market right now, we just need to wait and see who will come out on top.
As long as there are video games, there will be Nintendo.
-Azrael
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Maradön?'s fortune cookie read:
That's why pencils have erasers. Besides, all I did was add the word "just"
See, that's the problem. You're taking credit for ninja editing something in while I was in the middle of my reply as if you intended it all along. If you had stated that before I would have gone for different examples as you're just being a dick and wanting to nitpick....
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This insanity brought to you by Silvain:
It's on the bottom half of this page.
Way to deliver. I never knew that... what a strange world we would have lived in no?
However when PS was originally released it had only 3 games, and cost over $500 to own. It didn't catch on very well AT ALL, until it's price drop years later to compete with the N64. Which they had to do, or blow a billion dollar investment.
The N64 lacked 3rd Party support, mainly because the cart medium was too expensive to produce for, and for so little return. Where on the flip side, the CD Medium was much less inexpensive, and a bigger return could be gained. Bigger profit, better buisness. Also, because Nintendo was stingy with it's development environment. The Cart medium was technically better, but more expensive.
Nintedon brand games have not changed in style in the near 20 years they've been around. N64 games had no different style that it's SNES predesesor, the variety of genre's was just lacking. The maturity of the games never fell below that of the previous systems, with the exception of failed 3rd Party support. N64 also suffered from an influx of horrendously done sports sequals, WWF, and just about anything else you can think of. N64 showed it's real power with the entry of RE2 on the system. Unfortunately, this came after the systems death knell. N64 technically was a far superior system over the PS1, but it lacked support, and suffered from delays which spawned supporter hatred. A lot of PS1 converts left specifically because the Big N pissed them off, and because N64 lacked RPG Fighter support.
The GameCube on the other hand, by current standings anyway, has the highest number of 3rd Party entries into development. Square is back on board, and some of the old classics are making Tremendous comebacks. ie: Metroid, and Starfox Adventures: DInosaur Planet. Kameo looks amazingly cool as well. Nintendo is, and will always be, a broad market system. Thier games are neither kiddy nor adult. They are spectrum games, for the enjoyment of all. Which having kids myself, I find is a good thing. I can play a game and enjoy it, and my kids can pick up the same game an enjoy it. This doesn't mean however it's lacking in the purely kiddy market, OR the purely adult market. As quite a few of the games destined for GC are SOLEY adult oriented. In fact the entire RE line, including unreleased sequals are coming to the GC, as well as Eternal Darkness, and a much darker looking Metroid.
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KaLourin DthBlayde's account was hax0red to write:
<-- cut his teeth on Atari 2600, 5200, Intellivision and a Commodore Vic-20
<---Still has not one but TWO atari 2600s that work and get played regularly and an atari 5200 expressly for the purpose of playing digdug since I can't really find many games for it. 1 IBM PCjr, 1 C64, 1 colecovision, 1 tandy C64 type of system, don't have the model number handy cuz it's in storage but it was an outgrowth of the TRS-80, and 1 Tandy 1000 color pc.
I guess maybe that's why I am and always will be partial to cartridge medium... [ 04-15-2002: Message edited by: Kermitov ]
*hugs his computer*
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Verily, Kegwen doth proclaim:
*bashes ALL console gaming**hugs his computer*
Preach it, brother Kegwen.
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Mr. Parcelan enlisted the help of an infinite number of monkeys to write:
Looks like a toaster...of the FUTURE!
Were dose the bread go? It's sooo shiny, eyes are drying out, can't stop staring....
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Janus enlisted the help of an infinite number of monkeys to write:
Were dose the bread go? It's sooo shiny, eyes are drying out, can't stop staring....
On the front there..
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D painfully thought these words up:
On the front there..