They're just trying to shove their own insecurity down the throats of people that are merely going with what makes their lives worthwhile, what makes them happy.
Maybe if you were denied love because of some kind of general opinion, you'd realize what it's like.
(Note: I am neither bi nor homo, but I have two friends that are, and it's not easy for them)
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Why should I complain? Just leaves more rampant totty for us real men, eh?
I'm Bi, yes I admit the fact, but I'm not about to run around and flaunt it in the faces of every one I see, mainly because I'm afraid some one is going to pound me back to the stone age for it. I have a few bisexual freinds, I have a lesbian friend, does it matter to me, no.
But unfortunatly some of the society that we live in can't stand it if some one isn't the same as themselves and must find every way possibe to insult the one who is different. I dispise these people, why? Because for a time, they made my life hell...
Right then, um, yeah bye.
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Woody wrote, obviously thinking too hard:
Uhmm no. I never stipulated that disagreeing with me was ignorant and narrow minded, Mr. for-the-sake-of-precision. But people who would "flame" me just for saying I don't see an issue with finding love where ever one can, in my opinion, is ignorant, intolerant, and narrow minded.Disagree with me all you want. I don't care. But don't flame me for my opinion.
EDIT: For the sake of clarity... flaming someone for their opinion is what I consider ignorant and narrow minded.
Notice, "awaits the flames of the ignorant and narrow minded". NOT, "awaits the opinions of the ignorant and narrow minded". Flames is the operative word there.That was the point. That's the way it was written. You of all people should have been able to read that as it was written.
Now I ask you... whatever bug you have up your ass for me, please get over it. I wouldn't expect YOU to miss the obvious just because of some personal bias. Damn dude, I've been trying to look at your views as hard-laced but sensible and make nice with you slowly. But this kind of interpretation of what was a simple, and easy to understand, statemement is rediculous. I don't get it all.
My bad: I meant that as humor. Should've put a smiley, I guess.
It just struck me as funny when I read it.
Next time I'll do it as a separate post, and use the "Funny" tag myself.
. . . I mean, .
And, just for the record, I don't have "a bug up my ass" for anyone. Not you, not Kanid, not even Paul554/Kameks.
If I disagree with someone more often than not, it's due to the nature of their opinions or their actons rather than any vendetta on my part. I don't seek out anyone's posts and try to start anything--ever. It may seem that way, but only because I read most every thread around here, and respond to quite a few of them. It's good to have a lot of free time.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
Actually, I'm probably going to have to say Im supportive.
Waves a rainbow flag with a paw on it.
Not on their sexual orientation.
Not on the color of their skin.
Not on their education level.
Not on their income level.
The world would improve SO much if this little thing could be done.
No.
In issues such as this I've tried to follow my "Judge not, let ye be judged" belief. I like to think I have an open, if admittedly naive, mind.
Why should I be afraid of them? I've had a few gay co-workers, and I've never felt threatened by them; I'm a raging heterosexual, so why would I think they'd be attracted to me? The friend from work who wouldn't let me spend my 30th birthday alone is a bisexual woman. She's also a friend of mine.
I will admit I may not be perfect; I don't particularly care to see homosexuals being affectionate with each other - but on the flip side, there are some things that heterosexual couples do that I can't stand to see, either.
But I don't consider bisexuality/homosexuality and monogamy as being mutally exclusive either.
Back in college, have had gay roomates before.
My best friend is bisexual. and have two other good friends that are quite openly gay.
Some of the mice accually formed "gang like"(lack of better term) groups and would accually beat and kill other mice. Other's became seriously stressed out and neurotic. And some accually did become homosexual. (I'm not lieing here)
I'm being 100% serious here. I'll have my hubby send me the link from his work.
And I'm sure you're all aware of that study they(scientists) did on homosexuality. It's a part of their genetic make up. There's accually a part of your brain that basicaly "determines" weither or not you like the same or oposite sex. More like, if you're a guy, that little part will have a more "feminish" quality, and well, females *should* be attracted to guys. So it basicaly make's them attracted to guys. Women are born with it having more "masculine" like, thus being attracted to women more.
(I'll have this artical sent to me to)
I know some won't believe this. That it's just an excuse for why there are homosexuals. *shrugs* Personaly, they're human, part of our society, and they find love, just like you and I. What's wrong with finding love with another human? What's wrong with being happy with who you are. I mean, that is after all, what we're taught to be by teachers, parents, and such. "Be happy with who you are." "Find happiness, were you can."
My first *bad* encounter with a gay man was when my hubby braught me to his friends house to watch them game. And one of them was gay. He *hated* women. And especialy since I was new, and living with one of his friends, it made it worse. We got along well enough, after the one night he started yelling at me and I yelled right back and proved him wrong. *sighs and rolls her eyes* Couldn't beilive it had to come to that just to prove to him I had no problem with him being gay, and that I could role play.
Don't kid yourselves, violence is the answer
And about the "faux-homosexuality for laughs" thing, yeah, these two guys in my pre-calc. class do that. It's hilarious.
They went to a McDonalds and Mike was ordering for all of them.. The assistant guy put everything on one tray and suddenly saw the people behind him. The assistant then says 'Oh sorry mate, should I get another tray?'
So Tim leans over from behind Mike and says 'Nah that's 'kay luv, we're lovers'
The assistant just looks at them with this stunned expression
(they weren't really, by the way)
Not in the least!!
Some of the most fun nights out I've ever had have been out to the gay clubs in the area with my friends who are regulars
Someone usually winds up asking if they can borrow my club gear for a turn in the drag shows
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Mr. Parcelan thought this was the Ricky Martin Fan Club Forum and wrote:
Don't kid yourselves, violence is the answer
Violence is NOT the answer. It's a question. And the answer is "Yes".
What I can't stand though, is the people who push it in your face and make an issue out of it, or use it as an attention getting ploy.."Oh, lookit me, I'm GAY! Pity me, pay attention to me." Please, get over it. I don't care who you sleep with, I accept people based on their personality, not their sexual orientation.
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Bloodsage had this to say about pies:
I don't have "a bug up my ass" for anyone... not even Paul554/Kameks.
Ooof. You're a bigger man than I am.
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Between you and me Sage, in the end, I should have just said "nope. not homophobic." and left it at that. I would get flamed regardless, by those who are going to flame without regard. I should not feel the need to qualify or justify my opinion. The opinion was answer enough to stand on it's own.
And condemning the flame-types before they had said anything was kind of unfair. Call it preparation.
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"People are people" is a good answer... but honestly... is that a quote from Depeche Mode or the greasy spoon cook from "Muppets take Manhatten"? **grins** ((My attempt at a joke bud.))
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Drysart had this to say about Cuba:
<----I would do Legolas.
I don't think there's a man alive who wouldn't!
Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite. - John Kenneth Galbraith
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Woody had this to say about Punky Brewster:
"People are people" is a good answer... but honestly... is that a quote from Depeche Mode or the greasy spoon cook from "Muppets take Manhatten"? **grins** ((My attempt at a joke bud.))
Wasn't thinking of Depeche Mode, but now that you mention it, I remember that song.
Just my personal observation, having traveled more than a little.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
Now with that said:
I can't stand Flaming gays..
You know the type. They shove thier homosexuality in your face. They have the stupid rainbow flags on the back of thier car an in thier house. They are the vocal minority that gives the rest of a group a bad name. I tend to ignore them but occasiannaly it is near impossible not to see them dancing around like the idiots they are.
Hell there were enough in Portland to make me want to go postal.
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Azizza had this to say about dark elf butts:
Nah I am not in the least. Hell I am the first guy my girlfriend has dated in 6 years.
(WOOT I can claim I converted a Lesbian)
People should be taken for who they are not who they sleep with..Now with that said:
I can't stand Flaming gays..
You know the type. They shove thier homosexuality in your face. They have the stupid rainbow flags on the back of thier car an in thier house. They are the vocal minority that gives the rest of a group a bad name. I tend to ignore them but occasiannaly it is near impossible not to see them dancing around like the idiots they are.Hell there were enough in Portland to make me want to go postal.
Azziza . . . you disappoint me.
Don't think in terms of conversion, but of inviting friends!
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
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Bloodsage stumbled drunkenly to the keyboard and typed:
Azziza . . . you disappoint me.Don't think in terms of conversion, but of inviting friends!
Went there. Did that.
Why do you think I didn't post at all from thursday till Sunday? I didn't exactly have a lot of extra enerygy
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
SAVING the lesbians
IMPREGNATING the Catholic Schoolgirls
PROTECTING our children from learning about Islam in public schools!
Just give him your credit card number and you too will go to heaven!
sigpic courtesy of This Guy, original modified by me
No, I am not homophobic. Grief, my mom is a lesbian and it doesnt bother me to be seen in public with her and her lover. It does bother me when lesbian or gay people shove theirlifestyle in my face and yak about how proud they are that they are gay. Good for you, buddy, nice to see you're happy with yourself. I'd be happy for you too, if I didnt have to pick your literature out of my nose.
Flamers, not the every day homosexual poeple, are the ones who make me mad. Just like the people from minorities who think they should get deferential treatment just BECAUSE of that fact. Its just like the feminists who are always accusing men of being chauvinistic when they think they deserve to be handed a higher paying job just based on theur gender. Like poeple who think they are better than other people just because of how big their wallet is.
No, I'm not homophobic. I'm not racist. I am not chauvinistic. I'm not perfect by any means.
I just cant stand people who think they are.
Azakias steps off her soapbox.
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Azizza had this to say about Tron:
Nah I am not in the least. Hell I am the first guy my girlfriend has dated in 6 years.
(WOOT I can claim I converted a Lesbian)
People should be taken for who they are not who they sleep with..Now with that said:
I can't stand Flaming gays..
You know the type. They shove thier homosexuality in your face. They have the stupid rainbow flags on the back of thier car an in thier house. They are the vocal minority that gives the rest of a group a bad name. I tend to ignore them but occasiannaly it is near impossible not to see them dancing around like the idiots they are.Hell there were enough in Portland to make me want to go postal.
The italic part bothered me.
Anyone is allowed to have whatever symbols they want in thier house, be it gay pride, cruifix, rebel flag etc. Same goes for the stickers and such on cars. Personally I can stand the fish, but I am not one to tell that person they can't have a fish on thier car, or a cross hanging from thier rear-view mirror.
sigpic courtesy of This Guy, original modified by me
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Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael impressed everyone with:
Azizza = Jim Bakker of the futureSAVING the lesbians
IMPREGNATING the Catholic Schoolgirls
PROTECTING our children from learning about Islam in public schools!Just give him your credit card number and you too will go to heaven!
What the fuck are you talking about Ja'Deth..
I never said any of that shit.
I have nothing against lesbians or gays and could care less about "saving them"
I don't know where the fuck you are getting the chatholic schoolgirl thing..
And I have nothing against teaching Islam in schools.
What I do have a problem with is Teaching ONLY that one religion and teaching only the good parts or in some cases making the bad things look like good things. Like having the kids act out a Holy war and teaching them how much fun it is.
I hope to god you are joking here and just forgot the smileys..
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Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael had this to say about Duck Tales:
*has a "Jesus Fish" on the back of his car...cept it's been turned into a claw-footed squid man with "CTHULHU" written in it*
LOL
as for homophobia, no, i'm not. :P
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Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael had this to say about Cuba:
*has a "Jesus Fish" on the back of his car...cept it's been turned into a claw-footed squid man with "CTHULHU" written in it*
roofle
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Drysart had this to say about Jimmy Carter:
<----I would do Legolas.
Maybe we can coax him into a threesome Dry prrrowrrr
I was playing along with bloodsage and joking.
I care about this girl. Not gonna get into crap like that. Not this early at least. [ 01-21-2002: Message edited by: Azizza ]