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Topic: How many of you are homophobic?
Zaza
I don't give a damn.
posted 01-21-2002 06:45:18 AM
I can quite safely say that I am not homophobic. I'm intolerant against homophobes, however. I don't think it's ANYONE's damn business what people do behind closed doors, or if they hold hands, even kiss on the street.

They're just trying to shove their own insecurity down the throats of people that are merely going with what makes their lives worthwhile, what makes them happy.

Maybe if you were denied love because of some kind of general opinion, you'd realize what it's like.

(Note: I am neither bi nor homo, but I have two friends that are, and it's not easy for them)

leckzilla!
Squeak!
posted 01-21-2002 07:44:49 AM
I'm not. I don't mind the views of most people as long as people don't try and shove it down my throat.
Tarquinn
Personally responsible for the decline of the American Dollar
posted 01-21-2002 07:53:41 AM
I'm not. Not at all.
quote:
Why should I complain? Just leaves more rampant totty for us real men, eh?

~Never underestimate the power of a Dark Clown.
BetaTested
Not gay, but loves the cock!
posted 01-21-2002 08:24:44 AM
I'm not homophobic, but unfortunatly for one persistant guy at my school how couldn't figure out the meaning of "I'm not interested" he found I can be an ass >.>.

I'm Bi, yes I admit the fact, but I'm not about to run around and flaunt it in the faces of every one I see, mainly because I'm afraid some one is going to pound me back to the stone age for it. I have a few bisexual freinds, I have a lesbian friend, does it matter to me, no.

But unfortunatly some of the society that we live in can't stand it if some one isn't the same as themselves and must find every way possibe to insult the one who is different. I dispise these people, why? Because for a time, they made my life hell...

Right then, um, yeah bye.


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Maelarr
Pancake
posted 01-21-2002 08:27:36 AM
I have gay friends, When jeremy came out I told him, "Jerm, yer my friend, and that wont change, but I dont like it, but I accept it." Which pretty muych explains my views. I dont particularly like gays. But I would never go out gay bashing or discriminate against someone who is gay/lesb.

All Empires Fall, You just have to know where to push- Me
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Bloodsage
Heart Attack
posted 01-21-2002 08:38:40 AM
quote:
Woody wrote, obviously thinking too hard:
Uhmm no. I never stipulated that disagreeing with me was ignorant and narrow minded, Mr. for-the-sake-of-precision. But people who would "flame" me just for saying I don't see an issue with finding love where ever one can, in my opinion, is ignorant, intolerant, and narrow minded.

Disagree with me all you want. I don't care. But don't flame me for my opinion.

EDIT: For the sake of clarity... flaming someone for their opinion is what I consider ignorant and narrow minded.
Notice, "awaits the flames of the ignorant and narrow minded". NOT, "awaits the opinions of the ignorant and narrow minded". Flames is the operative word there.

That was the point. That's the way it was written. You of all people should have been able to read that as it was written.

Now I ask you... whatever bug you have up your ass for me, please get over it. I wouldn't expect YOU to miss the obvious just because of some personal bias. Damn dude, I've been trying to look at your views as hard-laced but sensible and make nice with you slowly. But this kind of interpretation of what was a simple, and easy to understand, statemement is rediculous. I don't get it all.


My bad: I meant that as humor. Should've put a smiley, I guess.

It just struck me as funny when I read it.

Next time I'll do it as a separate post, and use the "Funny" tag myself.

. . . I mean, .

And, just for the record, I don't have "a bug up my ass" for anyone. Not you, not Kanid, not even Paul554/Kameks.

If I disagree with someone more often than not, it's due to the nature of their opinions or their actons rather than any vendetta on my part. I don't seek out anyone's posts and try to start anything--ever. It may seem that way, but only because I read most every thread around here, and respond to quite a few of them. It's good to have a lot of free time.

To reign is worth ambition, though in Hell:
Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven.

--Satan, quoted by John Milton

Ferrel
Fippy's VP
posted 01-21-2002 09:56:22 AM
I'm going to go with I'm not.

Actually, I'm probably going to have to say Im supportive.

Waves a rainbow flag with a paw on it.

Ferrel!
Kanid
BANNED
posted 01-21-2002 09:58:48 AM
Everyone should treat people on the basis of their character.

Not on their sexual orientation.

Not on the color of their skin.

Not on their education level.

Not on their income level.

The world would improve SO much if this little thing could be done.

"Unlike adults, children have little need to deceive themselves." - Goethe
Happiness is subjective, subject yourself to it whenever possible.
"A man is not old until regrets take the place of dreams." - John Barrymore
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Mightion Defensor
posted 01-21-2002 10:35:50 AM
Am I homophobic?

No.

In issues such as this I've tried to follow my "Judge not, let ye be judged" belief. I like to think I have an open, if admittedly naive, mind.

Why should I be afraid of them? I've had a few gay co-workers, and I've never felt threatened by them; I'm a raging heterosexual, so why would I think they'd be attracted to me? The friend from work who wouldn't let me spend my 30th birthday alone is a bisexual woman. She's also a friend of mine.

I will admit I may not be perfect; I don't particularly care to see homosexuals being affectionate with each other - but on the flip side, there are some things that heterosexual couples do that I can't stand to see, either.

But I don't consider bisexuality/homosexuality and monogamy as being mutally exclusive either.

Niklas
hay guys whats going on in this title?
posted 01-21-2002 10:38:55 AM
I'm not homophobic and tok, yes I did notice the title..
Cherveny
Papaya
posted 01-21-2002 10:44:17 AM
Not homophobic either.

Back in college, have had gay roomates before.

My best friend is bisexual. and have two other good friends that are quite openly gay.

Dead Tired
Is usually a girl
posted 01-21-2002 10:45:32 AM
Homophobic?

Not I.

Trillee
I <3 My Deviant
posted 01-21-2002 10:57:37 AM
there was a study done, on lab mice. they stuck a lot of them in a confined area (kinda like.. a city would feel to some humans, inclueding me) and the results were, well intresting.

Some of the mice accually formed "gang like"(lack of better term) groups and would accually beat and kill other mice. Other's became seriously stressed out and neurotic. And some accually did become homosexual. (I'm not lieing here)

I'm being 100% serious here. I'll have my hubby send me the link from his work.

And I'm sure you're all aware of that study they(scientists) did on homosexuality. It's a part of their genetic make up. There's accually a part of your brain that basicaly "determines" weither or not you like the same or oposite sex. More like, if you're a guy, that little part will have a more "feminish" quality, and well, females *should* be attracted to guys. So it basicaly make's them attracted to guys. Women are born with it having more "masculine" like, thus being attracted to women more.

(I'll have this artical sent to me to)

I know some won't believe this. That it's just an excuse for why there are homosexuals. *shrugs* Personaly, they're human, part of our society, and they find love, just like you and I. What's wrong with finding love with another human? What's wrong with being happy with who you are. I mean, that is after all, what we're taught to be by teachers, parents, and such. "Be happy with who you are." "Find happiness, were you can."

My first *bad* encounter with a gay man was when my hubby braught me to his friends house to watch them game. And one of them was gay. He *hated* women. And especialy since I was new, and living with one of his friends, it made it worse. We got along well enough, after the one night he started yelling at me and I yelled right back and proved him wrong. *sighs and rolls her eyes* Couldn't beilive it had to come to that just to prove to him I had no problem with him being gay, and that I could role play.

King Parcelan
Chicken of the Sea
posted 01-21-2002 12:07:38 PM
So long as they leave me out of it, I've got no problems with them. Like many here, a good friend of mine is gay, and he's a cool guy. Once he starts hitting on me, though, the fists come out flying.

Don't kid yourselves, violence is the answer

Bloodcookie
Pancake
posted 01-21-2002 12:26:40 PM
Me? Heh. Do you not recognize the man in my sig pic?

And about the "faux-homosexuality for laughs" thing, yeah, these two guys in my pre-calc. class do that. It's hilarious.


""...destructive analysis of the familiar is the only method of approach to an understanding of fundamentally different modes of expression." -Edward Sapir, Language
Niklas
hay guys whats going on in this title?
posted 01-21-2002 12:30:44 PM
Funniest thing ever: My brother was out looking at universities with his friends, Mike and Tim.

They went to a McDonalds and Mike was ordering for all of them.. The assistant guy put everything on one tray and suddenly saw the people behind him. The assistant then says 'Oh sorry mate, should I get another tray?'

So Tim leans over from behind Mike and says 'Nah that's 'kay luv, we're lovers'

The assistant just looks at them with this stunned expression

(they weren't really, by the way)

Hostile Makeover
Evil as chocolate covered thistles
posted 01-21-2002 12:40:55 PM
Homophobic?

Not in the least!!

Some of the most fun nights out I've ever had have been out to the gay clubs in the area with my friends who are regulars

Someone usually winds up asking if they can borrow my club gear for a turn in the drag shows

Callalron
Hires people with hooks
posted 01-21-2002 01:24:30 PM
quote:
Mr. Parcelan thought this was the Ricky Martin Fan Club Forum and wrote:
Don't kid yourselves, violence is the answer

Violence is NOT the answer. It's a question. And the answer is "Yes".

Callalron
"When mankind finally discovers the center of the universe, a lot of people are going to be upset that it isn't them."
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Caela
Crazed Ex-Angel
posted 01-21-2002 02:09:21 PM
Not the least bit.

What I can't stand though, is the people who push it in your face and make an issue out of it, or use it as an attention getting ploy.."Oh, lookit me, I'm GAY! Pity me, pay attention to me." Please, get over it. I don't care who you sleep with, I accept people based on their personality, not their sexual orientation.

"I am free, no matter what rules surround me. If I find them tolerable, I tolerate them; if I find them too obnoxious, I break them. I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do. " - the "Professor" - The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress
Waisztarroz
I love democracy
posted 01-21-2002 02:24:28 PM
Haha, I'm such an ass, sexual orientation couldn't matter less to me. There's not enough time in the day for me to think of anyone else besides myself.
Yes, that's right, hot live sex!
There's a raptor behind you.
Resident grammar whore.
Warning, flames imminent!
Woody
Toast the Destroyer
posted 01-21-2002 03:31:43 PM
quote:
Bloodsage had this to say about pies:
I don't have "a bug up my ass" for anyone... not even Paul554/Kameks.

Ooof. You're a bigger man than I am.


-----

Between you and me Sage, in the end, I should have just said "nope. not homophobic." and left it at that. I would get flamed regardless, by those who are going to flame without regard. I should not feel the need to qualify or justify my opinion. The opinion was answer enough to stand on it's own.

And condemning the flame-types before they had said anything was kind of unfair. Call it preparation.

-----

"People are people" is a good answer... but honestly... is that a quote from Depeche Mode or the greasy spoon cook from "Muppets take Manhatten"? **grins** ((My attempt at a joke bud.))

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Drysart
Pancake
posted 01-21-2002 03:48:26 PM
<----

I would do Legolas.

Alleria Qui'farush
Chica!
posted 01-21-2002 03:50:09 PM
I'm certainly not homophobic. They're cool to hang around with because they're very ineresting people. I only have a couple bisexual friends but I've heard that gay men are the best shopping partners.
Karnaj
Road Warrior Queef
posted 01-21-2002 03:50:41 PM
quote:
Drysart had this to say about Cuba:
<----

I would do Legolas.


I don't think there's a man alive who wouldn't!

That's the American Dream: to make your life into something you can sell. - Chuck Palahniuk, Haunted

Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite. - John Kenneth Galbraith



Beer.

Alleria Qui'farush
Chica!
posted 01-21-2002 03:55:19 PM
I totally agree. ^_^
Bloodsage
Heart Attack
posted 01-21-2002 04:11:57 PM
quote:
Woody had this to say about Punky Brewster:

"People are people" is a good answer... but honestly... is that a quote from Depeche Mode or the greasy spoon cook from "Muppets take Manhatten"? **grins** ((My attempt at a joke bud.))

Wasn't thinking of Depeche Mode, but now that you mention it, I remember that song.

Just my personal observation, having traveled more than a little.

To reign is worth ambition, though in Hell:
Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven.

--Satan, quoted by John Milton

Azizza
VANDERSHANKED
posted 01-21-2002 04:25:19 PM
Nah I am not in the least. Hell I am the first guy my girlfriend has dated in 6 years.
(WOOT I can claim I converted a Lesbian)
People should be taken for who they are not who they sleep with..

Now with that said:
I can't stand Flaming gays..
You know the type. They shove thier homosexuality in your face. They have the stupid rainbow flags on the back of thier car an in thier house. They are the vocal minority that gives the rest of a group a bad name. I tend to ignore them but occasiannaly it is near impossible not to see them dancing around like the idiots they are.

Hell there were enough in Portland to make me want to go postal.

"Pacifism is a privilege of the protected"
Bloodsage
Heart Attack
posted 01-21-2002 04:30:02 PM
quote:
Azizza had this to say about dark elf butts:
Nah I am not in the least. Hell I am the first guy my girlfriend has dated in 6 years.
(WOOT I can claim I converted a Lesbian)
People should be taken for who they are not who they sleep with..

Now with that said:
I can't stand Flaming gays..
You know the type. They shove thier homosexuality in your face. They have the stupid rainbow flags on the back of thier car an in thier house. They are the vocal minority that gives the rest of a group a bad name. I tend to ignore them but occasiannaly it is near impossible not to see them dancing around like the idiots they are.

Hell there were enough in Portland to make me want to go postal.


Azziza . . . you disappoint me.

Don't think in terms of conversion, but of inviting friends!

To reign is worth ambition, though in Hell:
Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven.

--Satan, quoted by John Milton

Azizza
VANDERSHANKED
posted 01-21-2002 04:38:03 PM
quote:
Bloodsage stumbled drunkenly to the keyboard and typed:
Azziza . . . you disappoint me.

Don't think in terms of conversion, but of inviting friends!


Went there. Did that.
Why do you think I didn't post at all from thursday till Sunday? I didn't exactly have a lot of extra enerygy

"Pacifism is a privilege of the protected"
Bloodsage
Heart Attack
posted 01-21-2002 04:40:43 PM
Good man!
To reign is worth ambition, though in Hell:
Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven.

--Satan, quoted by John Milton

Azizza
VANDERSHANKED
posted 01-21-2002 04:44:30 PM
Yeah and the great part was that it was HER idea Well with a bit of subtle hinting from me.
"Pacifism is a privilege of the protected"
Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael
I posted in a title changing thread.
posted 01-21-2002 04:51:38 PM
Azizza = Jim Bakker of the future

SAVING the lesbians
IMPREGNATING the Catholic Schoolgirls
PROTECTING our children from learning about Islam in public schools!

Just give him your credit card number and you too will go to heaven!

Lyinar's sweetie and don't you forget it!*
"All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die. -Roy Batty
*Also Lyinar's attack panda

sigpic courtesy of This Guy, original modified by me

Azakias
Never wore the pants, thus still wields the power of unused (_|_)
posted 01-21-2002 04:55:48 PM
This kinda ties a lot into it for me...

No, I am not homophobic. Grief, my mom is a lesbian and it doesnt bother me to be seen in public with her and her lover. It does bother me when lesbian or gay people shove theirlifestyle in my face and yak about how proud they are that they are gay. Good for you, buddy, nice to see you're happy with yourself. I'd be happy for you too, if I didnt have to pick your literature out of my nose.

Flamers, not the every day homosexual poeple, are the ones who make me mad. Just like the people from minorities who think they should get deferential treatment just BECAUSE of that fact. Its just like the feminists who are always accusing men of being chauvinistic when they think they deserve to be handed a higher paying job just based on theur gender. Like poeple who think they are better than other people just because of how big their wallet is.

No, I'm not homophobic. I'm not racist. I am not chauvinistic. I'm not perfect by any means.

I just cant stand people who think they are.

Azakias steps off her soapbox.

"Age by age have men stood up and said to the world, 'From what has come before me, I was forged, but I am new and greater than my forebears.' And so each man walks the world in ruin, abandoned and untried. Less than the whole of his being"
Trent
Smurfberry Moneyshot
posted 01-21-2002 05:15:06 PM
quote:
Azizza had this to say about Tron:
Nah I am not in the least. Hell I am the first guy my girlfriend has dated in 6 years.
(WOOT I can claim I converted a Lesbian)
People should be taken for who they are not who they sleep with..

Now with that said:
I can't stand Flaming gays..
You know the type. They shove thier homosexuality in your face. They have the stupid rainbow flags on the back of thier car an in thier house. They are the vocal minority that gives the rest of a group a bad name. I tend to ignore them but occasiannaly it is near impossible not to see them dancing around like the idiots they are.

Hell there were enough in Portland to make me want to go postal.


The italic part bothered me.

Anyone is allowed to have whatever symbols they want in thier house, be it gay pride, cruifix, rebel flag etc. Same goes for the stickers and such on cars. Personally I can stand the fish, but I am not one to tell that person they can't have a fish on thier car, or a cross hanging from thier rear-view mirror.

Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael
I posted in a title changing thread.
posted 01-21-2002 05:26:45 PM
*has a "Jesus Fish" on the back of his car...cept it's been turned into a claw-footed squid man with "CTHULHU" written in it*
Lyinar's sweetie and don't you forget it!*
"All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die. -Roy Batty
*Also Lyinar's attack panda

sigpic courtesy of This Guy, original modified by me

Azizza
VANDERSHANKED
posted 01-21-2002 05:27:32 PM
quote:
Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael impressed everyone with:
Azizza = Jim Bakker of the future

SAVING the lesbians
IMPREGNATING the Catholic Schoolgirls
PROTECTING our children from learning about Islam in public schools!

Just give him your credit card number and you too will go to heaven!


What the fuck are you talking about Ja'Deth..
I never said any of that shit.
I have nothing against lesbians or gays and could care less about "saving them"

I don't know where the fuck you are getting the chatholic schoolgirl thing..

And I have nothing against teaching Islam in schools.
What I do have a problem with is Teaching ONLY that one religion and teaching only the good parts or in some cases making the bad things look like good things. Like having the kids act out a Holy war and teaching them how much fun it is.

I hope to god you are joking here and just forgot the smileys..

"Pacifism is a privilege of the protected"
Kloie
tunactsunamooon
posted 01-21-2002 05:48:12 PM
quote:
Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael had this to say about Duck Tales:
*has a "Jesus Fish" on the back of his car...cept it's been turned into a claw-footed squid man with "CTHULHU" written in it*

LOL

as for homophobia, no, i'm not. :P

Rabidbunnylover
Pancake
posted 01-21-2002 06:35:09 PM
quote:
Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael had this to say about Cuba:
*has a "Jesus Fish" on the back of his car...cept it's been turned into a claw-footed squid man with "CTHULHU" written in it*

roofle

Merp
Trillee
I <3 My Deviant
posted 01-21-2002 06:35:57 PM
quote:
Drysart had this to say about Jimmy Carter:
<----

I would do Legolas.



Maybe we can coax him into a threesome Dry prrrowrrr

Azizza
VANDERSHANKED
posted 01-21-2002 07:01:12 PM
Ok for those of you who can't tell.

I was playing along with bloodsage and joking.

I care about this girl. Not gonna get into crap like that. Not this early at least.

[ 01-21-2002: Message edited by: Azizza ]

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