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Topic: Darth Vader vs. Locutus of Borg
Karnaj
Road Warrior Queef
posted 12-13-2001 09:23:01 AM
Back to navigational sensors...

What good are they if that can only scan a few light years ahead? Then they can only enter hyperspace safely for the distance. In the mean time, the SSDs get pounded from afar, while they scan, jump, scan, jump, all the way to a military target.

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Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite. - John Kenneth Galbraith



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Palador ChibiDragon
Dismembered
posted 12-13-2001 10:28:15 AM
quote:
Tarquinn had this to say about Duck Tales:

Wrong.

If it would be that easy to beam (ordnance) through enemy shields by scanning their modulation, why didn't that form of combat replace standard phasers and photon torpedos?
The Feds would have owned the dominion using that technique.
As far as I remember it was done only one time so far ... with a heavily damaged borg sphere without shields!
(And even then the much smaller borg sphere wasn't destroyed, just disabled.)

Furthermore destroying the bridge won't put a SSD (or ISD) out of the fight the same way a loss of the Enterprise's bridge would do.
The SSD weapons aren't controlled from the bridge in the same way Federation ship weapons are controlled.
They resemble more WW2 warships, knocking out the bridge won't kill the ships gunners, the fighter squadrons or the ability to establisgh a backup bridge somewhere else on the ship.


You forget, the ships from the Star Trek setting have shileds made to deal with teleporters. There's a good chance that the shields on a SSD are NOT the right kind to deal with that. (Then again, maybe they are.)

Also, remember that in Return of the Jedi, an A-Wing pilot crashed into the bridge of a star destroyer. Without the bridge, it crashed into the Death Star. Yah, they might be able to get a second bridge up and running, but not that fast.

Mind you, it's not who wins the first fight that's important. Other fights would follow, and the Empire vs the Federation would be the real fun.

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Tarquinn
Personally responsible for the decline of the American Dollar
posted 12-13-2001 04:04:01 PM
quote:
Karnaj had this to say about Pirotess:
Back to navigational sensors...

What good are they if that can only scan a few light years ahead? Then they can only enter hyperspace safely for the distance. In the mean time, the SSDs get pounded from afar, while they scan, jump, scan, jump, all the way to a military target.


1)I've said "many many lightyears" not just a few.
In a Fed vs Imp campaign the battles would happen around planets anyways, so a 'retreating fight' wouldn't happen.

2)The empire whas able to locate many hidden rebel bases in the (uncartographed) outer rim territories, so their sensors cannot be THAT bad ...
At least they would be able to locate the populated Fed worlds.

quote:
Palador ChibiDragon:
You forget, the ships from the Star Trek setting have shields made to deal with teleporters. There's a good chance that the shields on a SSD are NOT the right kind to deal with that. (Then again, maybe they are.)

Also, remember that in Return of the Jedi, an A-Wing pilot crashed into the bridge of a star destroyer. Without the bridge, it crashed into the Death Star. Yah, they might be able to get a second bridge up and running, but not that fast.

Mind you, it's not who wins the first fight that's important. Other fights would follow, and the Empire vs the Federation would be the real fun.


The storywriter was on the rebels side ...

Yes, the Executor's shields were down already as the A-Wing hit its bridge, losing control for about one minute(or less), which unfortunatley was enough for it to crash into Deathstar II.

So unless there is a Deathstar or similiar sized object around the loss of the bridge shouldn't be a big problem.

[ 12-13-2001: Message edited by: Tarquinn ]

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Olethros et Teleute
Everyone's favorite seven foot tall, orc-hating, bad-ass barbarian babe!
posted 12-13-2001 08:01:10 PM
I tested this out using the Star Trek vs. Star Wars mod for "Armada", the Empire creamed Star Trek.

Besides, we've all seen how rickety and clunkily the Borg move and walk, if Locutus had to go up against Vader it'd be like watching Howdy Doody fight Jet Li...

Karnaj
Road Warrior Queef
posted 12-14-2001 08:10:32 AM
quote:
Olethros et Teleute had this to say about Tron:
I tested this out using the Star Trek vs. Star Wars mod for "Armada", the Empire creamed Star Trek.

I played that mod too, and I pwned the Empire as Feds. Then I played as the Empire, and pwned the Feds.

I think it's entirely dependent on who's playing. That mod is particularly well-balanced.

That's the American Dream: to make your life into something you can sell. - Chuck Palahniuk, Haunted

Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite. - John Kenneth Galbraith



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Tarquinn
Personally responsible for the decline of the American Dollar
posted 12-14-2001 09:08:12 AM
It doesn't really matter anyways.
~Never underestimate the power of a Dark Clown.
Karnaj
Road Warrior Queef
posted 12-14-2001 10:27:50 AM
Oh yeah, that mod is a bigger resource hog than Arghmada proper. It was chugging on my powerhouse. (T-bird 1333, 512 megs RAM, GF3)

Yup.

That's the American Dream: to make your life into something you can sell. - Chuck Palahniuk, Haunted

Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite. - John Kenneth Galbraith



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