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Skaw
posted 09-05-2001 06:02:00 PM
Kek:

Or Drys:

Stuborness is a never ending battle against ignorance, thats why Maradons Whine-uments go no where.

[ 09-05-2001: Message edited by: Skaw ]

The Unknown
Pancake
posted 09-05-2001 06:08:00 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Tier:
[QB]


Thanks for clearing that up

Tenet
Thinks popular is cool
posted 09-05-2001 06:12:00 PM
LOL oOooh THATS her???
----

Synjari, I was called a shallow bitch and attacked in many posts before ANYONE told me she was a personal friend of anyone from this board.

Of course I would not have been so rude as to say that about someone that was a friend.

And thats all anyone had to say before the name calling began, I would have deleted my offensive post and apologized.

Yet, thats not what happened, I was forced to defend myself by stating my opinion over and over again (this was in another post as well).

And I am still on the defense, I'm sorry but part of being obnoxious is being relentless.

I apologize to her and anyone that is her friend for saying what I did the way I did.

As I said about 5 times before I have not met her in RL and im sure she would look closer to FV as the camera is unforgiving.


I AM NOT sorry for upsetting all the people that are uptight about their wieght enough to make what ive said a personal attack.

Why does everyone say my name like it means 'shut-up'??!" -Jubilee
Bloodsage
Heart Attack
posted 09-05-2001 06:16:00 PM
Heaven forbid I ever get a reputation for coming to the aid of the downtrodden and misunderstood, or anything. Or, even worse, start advocating moderate middle grounds.

But, geez. . . .

Ya'll have spent three pages arguing about taste. This might as well be a discussion of strawberry versus vanilla versus chocolate ice cream. You can argue either side of the "she's ugly"/"she's hot" debate, and be just as correct as those on the other side. Nor does one have to epitomize the attributes one finds attractive for the opinion--in a matter of taste--to have merit.

Has everyone gone loony?

Reuben and Boris have very different views of attractive women--it's meaningless to argue whether one was right and the other wrong. There is no basis for an objective standard of "beauty."

But the discussion is entertaining.

While it's perfectly valid to assert that wasn't the nicest thing in the world to say, it's downright ridiculous to assert, as so many have, that Tenet's appearance has anything to do with the validity of her opinion regarding what constitutes beauty. And it's just assinine to assert that, just because you find someone hot, that everyone else on the planet must share that opinion.

Besides, it was in no worse taste than the original intimation that she looked like she was going to hop onto that dildo-looking object. That's at least as potentially offensive to any woman I've ever met.

We could do a poll! Ladies, would you rather be called:

a) fat
b) a slut

I'd bet neither choice appeals much.

And, just to fuel the entertainment, I'd like to announce that, having seen Tenet's pic, I think she's much hotter than FV. Reasonable people can certainly disagree--because it's strictly a matter of taste.

Bottom line: don't be mean, but don't expect everyone to share your tastes, either.

/whew

{edit: damn typo}

[ 09-05-2001: Message edited by: Bloodsage ]

To reign is worth ambition, though in Hell:
Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven.

--Satan, quoted by John Milton

Synjari
Warrior Princess
Cookie Seraphim!
posted 09-05-2001 06:23:00 PM
One person posted about weight issues.. that was me.. *laughs* Im not really sensitive about it.. years of abuse will do that to a person to where they are kinna numb towards it. BTW, Its fairly common board knowledge that Drysart has forged a friendship with Denise. People are just in agreement that it was in poor taste that you even posted that comment. It shows an ugly side of your personality that just turns people away from not wanting to get to know you. Im not saying that to be mean but I am pointing out that this is human nature. First impressions do count for alot. Not for everything.. but people form their opinion on first impressions. So far, and I know you could care less about my opinion, what I personally have seen leaves alot to be desired. *shrug*
"Villiany wears many masks, none of which are more dangerous than virtue." - "Sleepy Hollow"
Tenet
Thinks popular is cool
posted 09-05-2001 06:39:00 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Synjari:
One person posted about weight issues.. that was me.. *laughs* Im not really sensitive about it.. years of abuse will do that to a person to where they are kinna numb towards it.

That is too bad, the numbness I mean.
I have helped many people feel good about themselves,ironically.

quote:
Originally posted by Synjari:
BTW, Its fairly common board knowledge that Drysart has forged a friendship with Denise.

And that is why it would have been much more productive (as I have stated in now 6 posts) to just tell me that instead of calling me names and attacking MY opinion because im new to the boards.

quote:
Originally posted by Synjari:
People are just in agreement that it was in poor taste that you even posted that comment..

See my above post.

quote:
Originally posted by Synjari:
It shows an ugly side of your personality that just turns people away from not wanting to get to know you..

This is not my only post, and again see above post.

quote:
Originally posted by Synjari:
So far, and I know you could care less about my opinion...

Correct.

Why does everyone say my name like it means 'shut-up'??!" -Jubilee
Drysart
Pancake
posted 09-05-2001 06:39:00 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Bloodsage:
Besides, it was in no worse taste than the original intimation that she looked like she was going to hop onto that dildo-looking object. That's at least as potentially offensive to any woman I've ever met.

I doubt it. Denise would probably find it funny, actually. I'd point her to this thread, but I don't really want her to see everyone arguing over her. (And I'm pretty sure she doesn't read them on her own. )

quote:
Originally posted by Bloodsage:
And, just to fuel the entertainment, I'd like to announce that, having seen Tenet's pic, I think she's much hotter than FV.

I think you got a little something brown on your nose.

Looks aren't everything, I, for one, have no interest in someone who's attractive, but has a horrible personality.

[ 09-05-2001: Message edited by: Drysart ]

Cap'n Elethi
I'm too sexy for my shirt, too sexy for my shirt...
posted 09-05-2001 06:40:00 PM
If anyone here has seen her in normal clothes (I think a few of you have), shes beautiful. I mean, really gorgeous.


And of course they are Drysart. But it's hard to see some one's inner beautfy from a picture.

[ 09-05-2001: Message edited by: Elethi ]

Elethi Rian, A Man Of Many Talents
Bloodsage
Heart Attack
posted 09-05-2001 06:43:00 PM
Drysart,

1) You're able to say that since you know her. Personally, I'd never say either to someone I didn't know. And I'd have to know someone very well--and be out of reach--before I'd joke about either.

2) Your point?

quote:
Quoth Drysart:
Looks aren't everything, I, for one, have no interest in someone who's attractive, but has a horrible personality.

3) Not that I'd ever advocate such a thing, but I've heard that certain men apply a sliding scale, where personality and physical beauty matter inversely, proportional to the amount of time they contemplate spending with a given woman, and the activities contemplated during that time. Not that I'd want to expand on these ideas any. Ever. In public.

And don't tell anyone I'm trying to be reasonable; it'll spoil my reputation.

[ 09-05-2001: Message edited by: Bloodsage ]

To reign is worth ambition, though in Hell:
Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven.

--Satan, quoted by John Milton

Drysart
Pancake
posted 09-05-2001 06:45:00 PM
hehe... she thought the comic strips I did with Firiona Vie were pretty funny, even though they included various implied situations.. (and some not-so-implied!) I think this is pretty tame compared to that
Peach
Good intentions? Or *bad* intentions?
posted 09-05-2001 06:45:00 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Tenet:
*snip*

I AM NOT sorry for upsetting all the people that are uptight about their wieght enough to make what ive said a personal attack.

I don't think anyone here is saying they are uptight about their weight, but you. We're uptight about you making a rude comment about someone that a few of us here on the boards, know personally.

It's not as if you made a generalization, "all fat people are stupid" or some such. No one is accusing you of berating or belittling a group of people, like all us fatties on a message board, we're trying to help you understand that making comments like you did, was uncalled for, rude and makes you look shallow to other people.

Lets look at an example, shall we? We'll even use a male one, since they aren't obsessed about looks as you imply that women are. Drysart is not fat and he got upset about it. That should clue you in.

You show no tact, no grounds or basis for making such a rude comment, not to mention it was COMPLETLY off topic.

We're attempting to show you that what you said and how you said it is, was and always will be unacceptable on these message boards.

The right thing for you to say now would be:

"I am sorry for making such an inflammatory comment about her. In the future, I'll think twice about making such harsh comments about other peoples appearances. I'm not an expert on what is beautiful, or what is overweight. It's all my opinion, and next time, I’ll say it with a little more tact so people of this message board will still respect me after I post."

Trent
Smurfberry Moneyshot
posted 09-05-2001 06:46:00 PM
Perhaps you shouldn't have said it rudely to begin with Tenet.

*shrugs*

Snoota
Now I am become Death, shatterer of worlds
posted 09-05-2001 06:47:00 PM
People still respond to Bloodsage? He's worse than Maradon sometimes.

He just likes to go against what everyone else says to argue. His arguments are usually lacking and end in him insulting grammar/spelling while using big words after being backed into a corner.

Kloie
tunactsunamooon
posted 09-05-2001 06:47:00 PM
Peachis still r0x0rz this thread.
Snoota
Now I am become Death, shatterer of worlds
posted 09-05-2001 06:50:00 PM
This thread is still we todd it. Sofa king we todd it
Cap'n Elethi
I'm too sexy for my shirt, too sexy for my shirt...
posted 09-05-2001 06:50:00 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Kloie:
Peachis still r0x0rz this thread.


Elethi leans over and whispers to Kloie
"Shes a genius, I tell you. Or, I keep trying to tell everyone anyways..."

Elethi Rian, A Man Of Many Talents
Bloodsage
Heart Attack
posted 09-05-2001 06:52:00 PM
Slaps Snoota with a herring.

The problem is, that while a minority seemed concerned about the rudeness, a whole troop piled on with, "Is not!!!!!"

Which is just ridiculous.

Granted, the response wasn't handled well, either. But there's nothing wrong with meeting flames with flames.

Gets out the popcorn and continues to watch, herring ready in case Snoota gets uppity.

To reign is worth ambition, though in Hell:
Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven.

--Satan, quoted by John Milton

Synjari
Warrior Princess
Cookie Seraphim!
posted 09-05-2001 06:58:00 PM
*clears her throat* Tenet.. please.. get over yourself. This isnt a matter of the boards vs. a new person. Its a matter of something you said that was extremely lacking in tact. I would have gotten irked over something like that if one of the older board members said something like that. I have before...

Drys, Im sure she has a great sense of humor but at the same time, I know it wasnt the best thing to say.

Tenet, Evercrest was started as a group of likeminded people who flocked to Drysart's comic strip. People who had the common interest of gaming, especially within Everquest. Alot of people have gotten to know one another over the years. Friendships have been forged both between the players and between us (the players) and Verants staff. Its highly likely that people who are friends of Verants staff will post on this board even if the staff themselves dont post too often.

As for my weight issue.. as you said, you agree that you could care less about my opinion. Lets just keep it that way mmkay? Anyways.. that first post I wrote was to make a point about the use of tact.

"Villiany wears many masks, none of which are more dangerous than virtue." - "Sleepy Hollow"
Tenet
Thinks popular is cool
posted 09-05-2001 07:04:00 PM
Peachis, I apologized to her friends and her for how I said what I said.

The comment of pissing people off by talking about a woman's weight came up in more than one post.
Since the fact that she was a personal friend of some of you was not brought up I concurred everyone that was upset took it personal.
About the off topic thing...how many time have you seen a thread hyjacked? Heck I've had it happen to myself.

You dont have to attempt to show me anything, and im not the only one that was rude and off topic.

Why does everyone say my name like it means 'shut-up'??!" -Jubilee
Azrael Heavenblade
Damn Dirty Godmoder
posted 09-05-2001 07:11:00 PM
Almost totally off the subject, but I believe the object that has been referred to as phallic*ahem* is in actuality a poster tube, as there are a couple more lying on the table, or it could be that the guys at Verant have something other to do than mess with Everquest in their time off...
"The basic tool for manipulation of reality is the manipulation of words. If you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them." - Philip K. Dick
Black
The Outlaw Torn
posted 09-05-2001 07:29:00 PM
<Posts something that will completely upset everyone and get them all hoping mad.>





Time was never on my side.
So on I wait my whole lifetime.

Lyinar Ka`Bael
Are you looking at my pine tree again?
posted 09-05-2001 07:31:00 PM
I'm the first person that will defend someone's right to an opinion. But even giving an opinion should be done in a tactful manner. If you'd said something like "She looks overweight to me." or "As I see it, she's chubby." or whatever, then I don't think it would have been taken so badly. The form you took honestly just makes you sound jealous over a very nice-looking woman. Had you put it more tactfully, then it would have sounded less like a snide insult than a true, honest opinion.

And btw. I just can't see how you see her as overweight. I look maybe a little trimmer than her, weight about 114, and you can ask Deth. I am not overweight by a long shot. She looks pretty in shape to me, too. No love handles, flabs of skin, nothing. I think you're being overly critical.


Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin

Tier the Genius™
Dark Elf Pimp
posted 09-05-2001 07:35:00 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Black Mage:
<Posts something that will completely upset everyone and get them all hoping mad.>
*snip*

::flames Black Mage::

Black
The Outlaw Torn
posted 09-05-2001 07:42:00 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Tier:
::flames Black Mage::
Arrrgghh!

Revenge will be mine!

[ 09-05-2001: Message edited by: Black Mage ]



Time was never on my side.
So on I wait my whole lifetime.

Talonus
Loner
posted 09-05-2001 07:42:00 PM
*wonders why this post has yet to be closed considering the amount of flaming*
Ooooh kittens!
*gets distracted*
Wookit the cute widdle kitties!
Black
The Outlaw Torn
posted 09-05-2001 07:43:00 PM
Hiiii-ya!



Time was never on my side.
So on I wait my whole lifetime.

Synjari
Warrior Princess
Cookie Seraphim!
posted 09-05-2001 07:44:00 PM
My Munchkin is cuter dambit! *cackle*
"Villiany wears many masks, none of which are more dangerous than virtue." - "Sleepy Hollow"
Kloie
tunactsunamooon
posted 09-05-2001 07:46:00 PM
starts to flame BlackMage, but is suddenly distracted by the kitties
Black
The Outlaw Torn
posted 09-05-2001 07:47:00 PM
Ruuuff!

[ 09-05-2001: Message edited by: Black Mage ]



Time was never on my side.
So on I wait my whole lifetime.

Lyinar Ka`Bael
Are you looking at my pine tree again?
posted 09-05-2001 08:18:00 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Black Mage:
Hiiii-ya!



Those remind me of my babies. Kate is an orange tiger kitty. And Jaclyn is black and white and brown and almost exactly like that other kitty.

She looked more that way when she was still a kitten, too. And Kate looked identical to that little fluffy orange furball.

*loves kitties*


Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin

Bloodsage
Heart Attack
posted 09-05-2001 08:18:00 PM
Puppies > kittens.

<----- uber doggie

[ 09-05-2001: Message edited by: Bloodsage ]

To reign is worth ambition, though in Hell:
Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven.

--Satan, quoted by John Milton

Kekvit Irae
Pancake
posted 09-05-2001 11:54:00 PM
*is still on the second page*
*sighs*
Another perfectly good thread ruined...
King Parcelan
Chicken of the Sea
posted 09-05-2001 11:55:00 PM
Yeah. Looks like you've got that kind of effect on people
Palador ChibiDragon
Dismembered
posted 09-06-2001 12:29:00 PM
Hey! I had a post on the first page, where did it go?!?

Snarl

Anyway, I think the FV outfit needs help. The person wearing it is great, but the outfit is making Mrs. Channel spin in her grave like a high speed lathe.

Someone, PLEASE give FV some flayed Gnomeskin or something (basically, anything that's tight and black). The FV outfit shows skin while hiding bodyshape. It's better to show bodyshape while hiding skin. Think "flowing black robe".

I believe in the existance of magic, not because I have seen proof of its existance, but because I refuse to live in a world where it does not exist.
Dave
)_(
posted 09-06-2001 03:09:00 AM
Gikk
SCA babe!!!
posted 09-06-2001 03:21:00 AM
Is drawn into posting by the kitties.

Oooh... Kittens! *pouncies* How ADORABLE!

Kekvit Irae
Pancake
posted 09-06-2001 04:56:00 AM
*doesnt know how her thread went from talking about FV's dildo fetish, to FV's figure, to Tenet's/Synjari's figure, to kittens... and frankly she doesnt even wanna know*

quote:
Originally posted by Skaw:
Kek:

I would if I was a moderator.

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