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Topic: So, Twilight Princess (spoilers)
Karnaj
Road Warrior Queef
posted 04-01-2007 11:56:11 AM
Just beat it. In all, I thought it was an excellent Zelda game, though the puzzles were a tad on the easy side(that, or I'm getting smarter LOLOLOLOLOLOL). I really enjoyed the way they set up combat(Mortal Draw FTW), and the new items they added were pretty cool overall. So, I had a few questions for the other Zelda peeples.

When you get the final hidden skill, the Skeleton dude says that he used be a hero like Link, or something like that. Are we meant to infer that he's a Link from one of the earlier games?

Is it just me, or in the beginning of the game, does Ilia give Link a "Please fuck me now" look? And with no payoff at the end, either! Would I be correct in assuming that erotic fanfic writers have been hard at work, churning out story after poorly-written, jizz-soaked story to fill this gap in the narrative, in addition to stories involving Link and Midna, Midna, Link, and Zelda, and of course, Epona and the Gorons?

In general, where does this fit in the Zelda canon? Is there a single Zelda canon, or do they all branch out from the first one?

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Katrinity
Cookie Goddess!
posted 04-01-2007 12:14:57 PM
I think it's been posted before but here is a possible timeline of how the games fit together: Zelda Timeline
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Talonus
Loner
posted 04-01-2007 01:05:39 PM
quote:
And I was all like 'Oh yeah?' and Karnaj was all like:
Would I be correct in assuming that erotic fanfic writers have been hard at work, churning out story after poorly-written, jizz-soaked story to fill this gap in the narrative, in addition to stories involving Link and Midna, Midna, Link, and Zelda, and of course, Epona and the Gorons?

Rule 34. There's probably pics to go with the stories as well.


quote:
Karnaj Model 2000 was programmed to say:
In general, where does this fit in the Zelda canon? Is there a single Zelda canon, or do they all branch out from the first one?

There is no specific canon on the timeline. There's a couple different ways to piece the games together, but there's no one timeline you can use. Its almost easier to piece it together however you want to do so.

Mooj
Scorned Fanboy
posted 04-01-2007 04:26:44 PM
As far as I'm aware, there are only two things set in stone about the Zelda timeline.

1, Wind Waker is an alternate timeline, apart from the rest of the series, and comes significantly after the events of Ocarina of Time.

2, Twilight Princess comes after Ocarina of Time as well. You can see this in the lore of the game, as well as in photographs and relics all around.

Tegadil
Queen of the Smoofs
posted 04-01-2007 05:01:13 PM
Yeah, I recently read an interview where somebody from Nintendo stated that Twilight Princess occurs about 100 years after OoT. The only thing is, Ganondorf dies at the end of TP, as well as at the end of WW. So unless they work some weird ressurection magic I don't really know where Zelda 1/2 fit in.
Maradon!
posted 04-01-2007 05:42:35 PM
I always figured all the games were variations of the same story, using similar characters.

Not that there's anything wrong with that. Final fantasy anyone?

Malbi
posted 04-01-2007 05:51:20 PM
you could make an arguement that like the various links who inherit the triforce of courage down the generations, there could be multiple Ganon's as well. I mean the garudo women have to have kids with somebody...

OR
it could be possible that Ganon can't truly be killed but only dispersed for a time.

Malbi fucked around with this message on 04-01-2007 at 05:52 PM.

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Faelynn LeAndris
Lusty busty redheaded wood elf with sharp claws
posted 04-01-2007 09:04:51 PM
quote:
Malbi had this to say about pies:
you could make an arguement that like the various links who inherit the triforce of courage down the generations, there could be multiple Ganon's as well. I mean the garudo women have to have kids with somebody...

OR
it could be possible that Ganon can't truly be killed but only dispersed for a time.


At the end of OoT, Zelda II, and A Link To the Past he wasn't killed he was just re sealed away again as far as the lore and stories go. So there is that as well. (Zelda II even pretty much states he always goes back to the underworld and his remaining minions are always trying to release him. Supposedly being sealed away for the final time in Zelda II and Link and Zelda finnaly get together in that one, the generations finnaly ending.)

And it's Majora's that's an alternate dimension/timeline. Not Wind Waker. Wind Waker occurs several hundreds years after OoT according to the in-game lore, and interviews with the designers.

The only things really set in stone is that OoT is the very first in the series, and Zelda II: The Adventures of Link is the last in the series. Although Twilight Princess has story elements that predate OoT even though the game takes place long after it. TP is a continuation of the events following WW with story elements from before OoT. That much has been confirmed.

It is also pretty much Cannon that Links Awakening was just a dream or alternate reality/timeline.

That leaves the Original Zelda, A Link to the Past (Which can be placed at several different points in the timeline) and the Oracle series as questionable on where they belong.

Faelynn LeAndris fucked around with this message on 04-01-2007 at 09:07 PM.


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Mooj
Scorned Fanboy
posted 04-01-2007 10:45:58 PM
Given that the world is completely waterlogged in WW even at the end, I have to say that any attempt to say that it is the main timeline is completely invalidated by the fact that in all the other games, Hyrule is not underwater.
Faelynn LeAndris
Lusty busty redheaded wood elf with sharp claws
posted 04-01-2007 11:09:32 PM
quote:
Mooj wrote, obviously thinking too hard:
Given that the world is completely waterlogged in WW even at the end, I have to say that any attempt to say that it is the main timeline is completely invalidated by the fact that in all the other games, Hyrule is not underwater.

Except the in-game story specifically says a catastrophe happened that trapped Gannon below and flooded the planet after the OoT events (Gannon broke free again and attacked after the Hero of Time disappeared from the world, ie: Going to the Land where Majora's takes place.)leaving the land of Hyrule only fragments on the high points that managed to stay above water that the inhabitants fled too. Supposedly the 3 Goddesses did it.

The lands in Wind Waker are the mountain tops and highlands of the old Hyrule which is why Hyrule Castle is buried below the ocean and only reachable through the portal that Ganon escaped his imprisonment from. Old Hyrule still exists in Wind Waker, it just under all the water, and makes direct references to the Hero of Time and how he "disappeared" after defeating Gannon, and that Gannon came back a hundred years later and the Goddesses buried the world in Water trapping him below. TP references the continuation of these events, although never explains where the water went.


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Blindy.
Suicide (Also: Gay.)
posted 04-02-2007 12:35:13 AM
quote:
I bet Maradon!'s Mother is proud:
I always figured all the games were variations of the same story, using similar characters.


Same here.

This isn't a continuous world people, unless directly noted.

Mooj
Scorned Fanboy
posted 04-02-2007 12:46:15 AM
Twilight Princess never references the events of Wind Waker, only Ocarina of Time.

Yes, Wind Waker is one of the futures of Ocarina of Time, but it's not the main continuity.

Toktuk
Pooh Ogre
Keeper of the Shoulders of Peachis Perching
posted 04-02-2007 03:27:04 AM
Aonuma confirmed in an interview in Dec 06 that there was a timeline split or branch after Ocarina of Time. Twilight Princess takes place around 100 years after the child Link branch. Wind Waker takes place about a 100 years after the adult Link branch.

Miyamoto has stated in prior interviews that they have an internal document detailing the overall timeline for the series and how all of the games are connected, but they haven't released it publicly.

-H

Karnaj
Road Warrior Queef
posted 04-02-2007 08:46:19 AM
So, where's all the Midna porn? Jesus, guys.
That's the American Dream: to make your life into something you can sell. - Chuck Palahniuk, Haunted

Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite. - John Kenneth Galbraith



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Ozimander
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posted 04-02-2007 01:12:25 PM
Are you serious? It's everywhere. It's...it's everywhere.
Toktuk
Pooh Ogre
Keeper of the Shoulders of Peachis Perching
posted 04-02-2007 01:41:07 PM
quote:
Karnaj had this to say about Duck Tales:
So, where's all the Midna porn? Jesus, guys.

So far, it's been a Gains-free thread. Why ruin a good thing?

-H

Karnaj
Road Warrior Queef
posted 04-02-2007 01:47:45 PM
quote:
Ozimander screamed this from the crapper:
Are you serious? It's everywhere. It's...it's everywhere.

I'm a productive member of society now. I don't have time to devote to this sort of stuff. I have to commute!

EDIT: And FTR, I think Gains is a pretty funny and somewhat cool guy. I'm still on the fence about his status as a potential sexual predator, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt until I see him on To Catch a Predator.

I'm Chris Hanson.

Karnaj fucked around with this message on 04-02-2007 at 01:51 PM.

That's the American Dream: to make your life into something you can sell. - Chuck Palahniuk, Haunted

Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite. - John Kenneth Galbraith



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Skaw
posted 04-03-2007 02:47:48 AM
quote:
Hellbender wrote this then went back to looking for porn:
Miyamoto has stated in prior interviews that they have an internal document detailing the overall timeline for the series and how all of the games are connected, but they haven't released it publicly.

That would make a pretty nice large sized poster, putting it in flow chart form.

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