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The Crime of "Unauthorized Reproduction"
New law will require marriage as a legal condition of motherhoodBy Laura McPhee
Republican lawmakers are drafting new legislation that will make
marriage a requirement for motherhood in the state of Indiana,
including specific criminal penalties for unmarried women who do
become pregnant "by means other than sexual intercourse."According to a draft of the recommended change in state law, every
woman in Indiana seeking to become a mother throu gh assisted
reproduction therapy such as in vitro fertilization, sperm donation,
and egg donation, must first file for a "petition for parentage" in
their local county probate court.Only women who are married will be considered for the "gestational
certificate" that must be presented to any doctor who facilitates the
pregnancy. Further, the "gestational certificate" will only be given
to married couples that successfully complete the same screening
process currently required by law of adoptive parents.As it the draft of the new law reads now, an intended parent "who
knowingly or willingly participates in an artificial reproduction
procedure" without court approval, "commits unauthorized
reproduction, a Class B misdemeanor." The criminal charges will be
the same for physicians who commit "unauthorized practice of
artificial reproduction."The change in Indiana law to require marriage as a condition for
motherhood and criminalizing "unauthorized reproduction" was
introduced at a summer meeting of the Indiana General Assembly's
Health Finance Commission on September 29 and a final version of the
bill will come up for a vote at the next meeting at the end of this
month.Republican Senator Patricia Miller is both the Health Finance
Commission Chair and the sponsor of the bill. She believes the new
law will protect children in the state of Indiana and make parenting
laws more explicit.According to Sen. Miller, the laws prohibiting surrogacy in the
state of Indiana are currently too vague and unenforceable, and that
is the purpose of the new legislation."But it's not just surrogacy," Miller told NUVO. " The law is vague
on all types of extraordinary types of infertility treatment, and we
wanted to address that as well.""Ordinary treatment would be the mother's egg and the father's
sperm. But now there are a lot of extraordinary thing s that raise
issues of who has legal rights as parents," she explained when asked
what she considers "extraordinary" infertility treatment.Sen. Miller believes the requirement of marriage for parenting is
for the benefit of the children that result from infertility
treatments."We did want to address the issue of whether or not the law should
allow single people to be parents. Studies have shown that a child
raised by both parents - a mother and a father - do better. So, we
do want to have laws that protect the children," she explained.When asked specifically if she believes marriage should be a
requirement for motherhood, and if that is part of the bill's
intention, Sen. Miller responded, "Yes. Yes, I do."A draft of the legislation is available on the Health Finance
Commission website:http://www.in.gov/legislative/interim/committee/prelim/HFCO04.pdf
The next meeting of the Health Finance Commission will be held at
the Statheouse on October 20, 2005 at 10 am in Senate Chambers and
is open to the public
See, I thought it was a joke, at first. But if you go to the link above, it's all there. In confusing language, of course, but it's all there. Some of not mentioned above is downright creepy, like page 9, for example.
So, what happened to the Republicans being the party of small government?
Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite. - John Kenneth Galbraith
I have Met Pat before and she always struck me as a level headed and intelligent woman. I guess I was wrong.
I'm moving to Canada.
Blindy. fucked around with this message on 10-05-2005 at 12:47 PM.
All the redneck comments at the bottom of the original article irritated me ,too.
Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin
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x--KarnajO-('-'Q) :
So, what happened to the Republicans being the party of small government?
Oh, they are. Unfortunately, a certain percentage of the party's constituents also hate homosexuality.
The "Religious right" has far more in common with the left than with the right, but because they are, for whatever unfathomable reason, constituents of the republican party, the republican party needs to pander to them.
In regards to this specific decision, it certainly looks like they're trying to work toward flat out outlawing homosexuality at the state level. It'd be interesting to hear them elaborate on the reasoning for such a law.
In the end, though, I seriously doubt it will pass.
It's not something people hear about.
Edit: on the other hand, a savvy gay rights activist could argue that a natural consequence of the law is a requirement that the state legalize gay marriage. . . . Bloodsage fucked around with this message on 10-05-2005 at 04:05 PM.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
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It has been ordained by Primus, that there will be a Chosen One who will use the Matrix to "light our darkest hour." That darkest hour may come sooner if Bloodsage keeps posting things like this:
Even if it passes, I can't see it surviving judicial review. The, "We can do this because studies show children with two parents of different genders do better," arguement could also be used, for example, to oppress any statistically disadvantaged group--and thus can't stand serious scrutiny. As a matter of fact, it's exactly this kind of absurd reasoning that that whatisname was trying to put down when all the stupid people got offended and called him a racist for his comments about aborting black babies.Edit: on the other hand, a savvy gay rights activist could argue that a natural consequence of the law is a requirement that the state legalize gay marriage. . . .
William Bennett. 
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Maradon! had time to sputter this out before being killed by someone else's ambush:
The "Religious right" has far more in common with the left than with the right
Could you elaborate? That seems a little counterintuitive.
Disclaimer: I'm just kidding, I love all living things.
The fastest draw in the Crest.
"The Internet is MY critical thinking course." -Maradon
"Gambling for the husband, an abortion for the wife and fireworks for the kids they chose to keep? Fuck you, Disneyland. The Pine Ridge Indian Reservation is the happiest place on Earth." -JooJooFlop
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ACES! Another post by Gunslinger Moogle:
Could you elaborate? That seems a little counterintuitive.
Suppression of rights and freedoms and instituted state-sanctioned biases for a perceived "greater good," a la censorship and affirmative action.
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Maradon! wrote, obviously thinking too hard:
Oh, they are. Unfortunately, a certain percentage of the party's constituents also hate homosexuality.The "Religious right" has far more in common with the left than with the right, but because they are, for whatever unfathomable reason, constituents of the republican party, the republican party needs to pander to them.
A thirst for political power is no excuse for doing the bidding of a despicable group. If Klan members suddenly became a voting block, would it still be acceptable for the Republicans to pander to them? How about holocaust deniers? Serial rapists? Radical Muslims?
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Zuppo-wuf fill's Mod's Fibers and i grow turgid, Violent Action Ensues!
A thirst for political power is no excuse for doing the bidding of a despicable group. If Klan members suddenly became a voting block, would it still be acceptable for the Republicans to pander to them? How about holocaust deniers? Serial rapists? Radical Muslims?
To answer all your question, Yes, Yes, Yes, and no, because those muslims are under arrest by John Ashcroft for being terrerists.
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Check out the big brain on Mr. Parcelan!
Suppression of rights and freedoms and instituted state-sanctioned biases for a perceived "greater good," a la censorship and affirmative action.
That's such a hollow, talking point laden sentence. 99% of all govenment activity has some sort of inherent bias. If you build a road, you're being 'biased' towards people who own or can own cars, if you build a school (or give out a voucher for that matter) you're being biased towards people who chose to have kids. If you invest in flood prevention research you're being biased towards the engineering profession. If you offer shelter to tornado victims you're being biased towards people who live in tornado areas. Also any government expenditure is technically limiting freedoms by being financed through taxes.
What about expansion of police powers, a trademark of even the non-religious right everywhere? McCarthyism? Exclusion of women from military service? Massive increases in military spending which limit the 'rights and freedoms' of people in the same way expansion of social programs limits them? The War on Porn? Corporate welfare? Lessening quality of air for everyone in order to increase profits for the manufacturing industry? All those limit rights and freedoms in some way and include 'state sanctioned biases' (see above).
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Talonus's unholy Backstreet Boys obsession manifested in:
Immaculate conception would be illegal under this law technically. I really don't think the religious right thought this through here.
ARREST JESUS!!
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From the book of Cavalier-, chapter 3, verse 16:
ARREST JESUS!!
He was a pot smoking hippy anyways.
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Talonus wrote this stupid crap:
Immaculate conception would be illegal under this law technically. I really don't think the religious right thought this through here.
I want to say something here. I really, really do.
But it would be so very, very not nice. In a religion bashing kind of way.
Let's just say that while I'm apalled, I'm not suprised.
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We all got dumber when Cavalier- said:
ARREST JESUS!!
They've been looking for a reason to cuff that commie since day one anyway.
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Blindy. had this to say about Punky Brewster:
They've been looking for a reason to cuff that commie since day one anyway.
cuff him, beat him, nail him to a post, eat him...
Jesus is into some creepy S&M stuff.
sigpic courtesy of This Guy, original modified by me
But on topic..I could not believe what I was hearing when this was on the news the other night. Even as conservative as Indiana is, I don't see this truly getting passed, but that someone even came up with the idea is frightening in and of itself. It makes me ashamed to acknowledge Indiana as my home state..really, we're not all morons.
Someone will probably jump my ass for saying this, but in my opinion the argument that kids do better is completely subject to the circumstances in which they are raised, and I don't believe that a parents sex life is a factor. I've seen many good kids come out of single parent homes..and some really nasty ones come out of homes with two parents. I think that it has much more to do with the parenting skills of the people involved than their marital statis. What does it matter if the people involved are gay or married or from the fucking moon if they can take good care of the child?
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Talonus attempted to be funny by writing:
Immaculate conception would be illegal under this law technically. I really don't think the religious right thought this through here.
Well, this made me almost spit my drink out. 
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Palador ChibiDragon's account was hax0red to write:
I want to say something here. I really, really do.But it would be so very, very not nice. In a religion bashing kind of way.
Let's just say that while I'm apalled, I'm not suprised.
Go ahead and bash. I don't care if you do, even as a Catholic. I was just making a joke.
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Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael's account was hax0red to write:
cuff him, beat him, nail him to a post, eat him...
"When Jesus broke the bread at the Last Supper he said, 'Take this and eat it, for it is my body', he did not just say 'Eat me.'" Cavalier- fucked around with this message on 10-06-2005 at 07:41 PM.
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Naimah had this to say about pies:
He was a pot smoking hippy anyways.
"When David was hit by a rock and knocked off his donkey, don't say he was stoned off his ass."
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Aw, geez, I have Maradon! all over myself!
Oh, they are. Unfortunately, a certain percentage of the party's constituents also hate homosexuality.The "Religious right" has far more in common with the left than with the right, but because they are, for whatever unfathomable reason, constituents of the republican party, the republican party needs to pander to them.
Interestingly enough, a large portion of what we secularists would label the Religious Right is composed of self-described independents. A small portion are even registered Democrats.
Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite. - John Kenneth Galbraith
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Cavalier- had this to say about Punky Brewster:
"When David was hit by a rock and knocked off his donkey, don't say he was stoned off his ass."
"Do not refer to the Virgin Mary as 'Mary with the Cherry'"
It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the beans of Java the thoughts aquire speed, the teeth acquire stains, the stains become a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.
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ACES! Another post by Kuroi Madoushi:
"Do not refer to the Virgin Mary as 'Mary with the Cherry'"
"David defeated Goliath with his sling, he did not kick the shit out of him."
GAI SENSEI APPROVES!
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Cavalier- attempted to be funny by writing:
"David defeated Goliath with his sling, he did not kick the shit out of him."
" Next Sunday there will be a taffy-pulling contest at St. Peter's, not a peter-pulling contest at St. Taffy's."
It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the beans of Java the thoughts aquire speed, the teeth acquire stains, the stains become a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.
