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Topic: Addons!
Zaeron
Pancake
posted 09-21-2005 09:13:56 AM
What would you consider to be the essential addons you would never play without? I could never go without Whispercast, CT_RaidAssist or Decursive. Plus, Scrolling Combat Text is awesome, now that I've tried it, I don't think I could stop using it.
Vorago
A completely different kind of Buckethead
posted 09-21-2005 11:27:47 AM
Reputation 0.14

Breaks reputation down into it's base values, you gain 10 rep or 50 rep or 100 rep, no gigantic decimal values showing the next rep rank (Like 2.347261), no, it gives it to you in a simple 4000/21000 style amount. Makes life so much easier

Random Insanity Generator
Condom Ninja El Supremo
posted 09-21-2005 11:41:47 AM
I will shoot the next lazy paladin SOB who tells me "send me a /w for buffs".

I don't have time to chat with you about buffs. I made my preferences known at the start (BoK and BoM) and it's up to you and the 4 other paladins on this raid to figure out who is casting what AND THEN FUCKING DO IT.

* NullDevice kicks the server. "Floggings will continue until processing power improves!"
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"That was black magic, and it was easy to use. Easy and fun. Like Legos." -- Harry Dresden
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That's what playing Ragnarok Online taught me: There's no problem in the universe that can't be resolved by the proper application of daggers to faces.
Zaeron
Pancake
posted 09-21-2005 11:44:54 AM
quote:
Random Insanity Generator impressed everyone with:
I will shoot the next lazy paladin SOB who tells me "send me a /w for buffs".

I don't have time to chat with you about buffs. I made my preferences known at the start (BoK and BoM) and it's up to you and the 4 other paladins on this raid to figure out who is casting what AND THEN FUCKING DO IT.


If you don't have time to push one macro every 5 minutes for your buffs, I don't have time to manually target 39 people and buff each of them every 5 minutes either.

Mod
Pancake
posted 09-21-2005 11:55:48 AM
quote:
Random Insanity Generator wrote this stupid crap:
I will shoot the next lazy paladin SOB who tells me "send me a /w for buffs".

I don't have time to chat with you about buffs. I made my preferences known at the start (BoK and BoM) and it's up to you and the 4 other paladins on this raid to figure out who is casting what AND THEN FUCKING DO IT.


Have you ever played a buffing class? On a raid people get dispelled, die, have their buffs pushed off by debuffs (maybe not in wow), click off their buffs by accident, want to change buffs mid-raid, ... It's much easier for you to /w people than it is for the paladins to constantly check 50 people for buffs.

Life... is like a box of chocolates. A cheap, thoughtless, perfunctory gift that nobody ever asks for. Unreturnable, because all you get back is another box of chocolates. You're stuck with this undefinable whipped-mint crap that you mindlessly wolf down when there's nothing else left to eat. Sure, once in a while, there's a peanut butter cup, or an English toffee. But they're gone too fast, the taste is fleeting. So you end up with nothing but broken bits, filled with hardened jelly and teeth-crunching nuts, and if you're desperate enough to eat those, all you've got left is a... is an empty box... filled with useless, brown paper wrappers.
Lashanna
noob
posted 09-21-2005 12:05:43 PM
On bosses, you will get what Blessing I give, and your preference can be damned. During trash mobs, if you get a blessing other than Salvation, you should count yourself lucky that I've even bothered.

If you have some sort of personal issue, you will send me a tell, because it's bad enough I have to buff 40 people and I'm not going to be dealing with 39 Personal Issues.

If it's a guild thing, blame your guild. We sort out what Paladins cast which blessings on which classes to maximize use of talents, and that works pretty well. Still, if we're clearing trash mobs, you're not going to get blessings usually unless you ask for them or I'm bored. 30 minutes of trash mobs is 240 blessings where I have to worry about Line of Sight, range, timing, etc.

Dad's going to kill you. Really. He is.
Blackened
posted 09-21-2005 12:07:46 PM
quote:
Random Insanity Generator.
I will shoot the next lazy paladin SOB who tells me "send me a /w for buffs".
You are the laziest most egocentrical motherfucker ever.

Just help the poor slob out and take the FOUR SECONDS out of your day to reply to him. You act like clarifying what Blessings you want are some horrendous, horrible thing that you need to tediously discuss with every Paladin in the raid for 30 minutes each just to get.

edit - fuck off rosa okay

Blackened fucked around with this message on 09-21-2005 at 12:09 PM.


Although my distaste for you as a human being is brobdingnagian,
what I'm about to do isn't personal.
Zair
The Imp
posted 09-21-2005 12:15:52 PM
I have CT Raid

This one shaman in my guild has a nice macro that sends me a whisper when he uses his healthstone.

Is there by any chance an addon that helps with this? I suppose it wouldn't be possible for something to tell me whenever anyone uses a healthstone I supplied them with, would it?

Are there any other warlock specific helpful addons out there that anyone knows about?

Addy
posted 09-21-2005 01:08:12 PM
DAMMIT LASHANNA KINGS ME
Sean
posted 09-21-2005 01:20:50 PM
I don't care what blessings I get so long as it's not Blessing of goddamn Light or Sanctuary.

I have engaged far too many boss mobs and found my only blessings to be Light and Sanctuary.

A Kansas City Shuffle is when everybody looks right, you go left.

It's not something people hear about.

Talonus
Loner
posted 09-21-2005 04:29:34 PM
quote:
Lashanna had this to say about Matthew Broderick:
On bosses, you will get what Blessing I give, and your preference can be damned. During trash mobs, if you get a blessing other than Salvation, you should count yourself lucky that I've even bothered.

You always sucked at giving any blessings to me. SALVATION PLEASE DAMMIT!

Kegwen
Sonyfag
posted 09-21-2005 05:30:40 PM
NurfedUI's group window, Titan panel, and tipbuddy

Nurfed has shitty/buggy actions bars that I'm going to replace with flexbar soon, though

Kegwen fucked around with this message on 09-21-2005 at 05:33 PM.

Lashanna
noob
posted 09-21-2005 05:55:43 PM
I hate you all.

All my blessings are assigned to alt keys, (Alt+1-5 for blessings). By the end of a night of Blackwing Lair, my left hand starts to develop the most uncomfortable pains

Dad's going to kill you. Really. He is.
Addy
posted 09-21-2005 05:58:32 PM
Best part is, we get to reclear BWL tonight.

Btw, Sean, Light is actually nice to have in a 40 person raid (since paladins will give you 4 blessings--salvation kings might light) or when the pally is pretty much your main healer.

Sean
posted 09-21-2005 06:05:43 PM
btw Addy eat some die

We've got an abundance of Druids, two Priests, and two or three Paladins. I want Might, goddamnit.

A Kansas City Shuffle is when everybody looks right, you go left.

It's not something people hear about.

Talonus
Loner
posted 09-21-2005 06:07:50 PM
quote:
Lashanna had this to say about Duck Tales:
I hate you all.

Don't blame me because you sucked at blessings!

Random Insanity Generator
Condom Ninja El Supremo
posted 09-21-2005 06:12:06 PM
quote:
*yaaaaaawn* Sorry, Blackened, I drifted off while you were saying:
You are the laziest most egocentrical motherfucker ever.

Just help the poor slob out and take the FOUR SECONDS out of your day to reply to him. You act like clarifying what Blessings you want are some horrendous, horrible thing that you need to tediously discuss with every Paladin in the raid for 30 minutes each just to get.

edit - fuck off rosa okay


If it were THAT I would have no problems with it.

No, he wants me to do that when the buff runs out. ie: I buff myself. So if I request a buff while he's trying to heal someone, either I'm shafted for the buff for a bit, or whoever was being healed just got killed.

And all the good raid paladins I've seen wind up using BuffAhoy. Spam one key and it auto-buffs people by selected preference. Usually Paladins break out by a single buff. One does King, one does Sanc, one does Might, etc. How hard is it to spam a single key once every 5 minutes? They do it with Decursive quite a bit!

* NullDevice kicks the server. "Floggings will continue until processing power improves!"
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"That was black magic, and it was easy to use. Easy and fun. Like Legos." -- Harry Dresden
-----------------------------------
That's what playing Ragnarok Online taught me: There's no problem in the universe that can't be resolved by the proper application of daggers to faces.
Lashanna
noob
posted 09-21-2005 06:12:43 PM
quote:
Talonus wrote this then went back to looking for porn:
Don't blame me because you sucked at blessings!

You yelled at me all the time for everything. Go play your monster truck mmo or whatever, you loser.

Dad's going to kill you. Really. He is.
Addy
posted 09-21-2005 06:14:25 PM
Generally during fights, paladins are busy spamming heal and/or cleanse. Yes, they should be trying to make sure the blessing is on you still, but if it fades and they don't rebuff it, just send them a tell. It's not that hard.

That BuffAhoy thing seems really annoying, whispercast is better. =\

Talonus
Loner
posted 09-21-2005 06:15:44 PM
quote:
Check out the big brain on Lashanna!
You yelled at me all the time for everything. Go play your monster truck mmo or whatever, you loser.

You forgot the blessings all the time! And then you forgot to put on your armor!

And I'm back playing part-time DAoC now with my free MMO time. Pwnz0ring n00bs kk thx. Sadly, Auto Assault turned out to be a bust. Good idea, good devs, but the game just doesn't pan out at high levels.

Zaeron
Pancake
posted 09-21-2005 06:21:21 PM
quote:
This insanity brought to you by Random Insanity Generator:
If it were THAT I would have no problems with it.

No, he wants me to do that when the buff runs out. ie: I buff myself. So if I request a buff while he's trying to heal someone, either I'm shafted for the buff for a bit, or whoever was being healed just got killed.

And all the good raid paladins I've seen wind up using BuffAhoy. Spam one key and it auto-buffs people by selected preference. Usually Paladins break out by a single buff. One does King, one does Sanc, one does Might, etc. How hard is it to spam a single key once every 5 minutes? They do it with Decursive quite a bit!


Honestly, I forget. I have other crap going on,, or I just can't take a full minute out of my life to buff it over and over and over... with Whispercast, it's more spread out, and most people don't even bother. It's a happy medium - the people who actually want their buffs make a macro that whispers each paladin, and push the silly macro when the buffs fade. The people who don't give a shit about blessings (read: two thirds of the raid) don't get them unless we're doing a boss, which works fine for them.

Random Insanity Generator
Condom Ninja El Supremo
posted 09-21-2005 06:22:25 PM
quote:
Addy said this about your mom:
Generally during fights, paladins are busy spamming heal and/or cleanse. Yes, they should be trying to make sure the blessing is on you still, but if it fades and they don't rebuff it, just send them a tell. It's not that hard.

That BuffAhoy thing seems really annoying, whispercast is better. =\


If it fades during combat, I don't notice. Generally I don't care either.

He refused to buff anyone. *HE* was not going to buff. In combat, out of combat, didn't matter. In combat if you *need* the buff (and I don't consider any of them *need* caliber. Fort, yes. BoK, BoM, BoS, BoL, SOL: no.) it makes sense to send him a tell and when it's in his ability to service the request, great. If it turns out that I wind up not getting the buff till the end of the fight because of something, oh well. Refusing to play your class or a section of your class because you can shuffle it out to brainless automation (ie: you can be replaced with a bot) isn't acceptable.

* NullDevice kicks the server. "Floggings will continue until processing power improves!"
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"That was black magic, and it was easy to use. Easy and fun. Like Legos." -- Harry Dresden
-----------------------------------
That's what playing Ragnarok Online taught me: There's no problem in the universe that can't be resolved by the proper application of daggers to faces.
Random Insanity Generator
Condom Ninja El Supremo
posted 09-21-2005 06:23:50 PM
quote:
Zaeron stopped beating up furries long enough to write:
Honestly, I forget. I have other crap going on,, or I just can't take a full minute out of my life to buff it over and over and over... with Whispercast, it's more spread out, and most people don't even bother. It's a happy medium - the people who actually want their buffs make a macro that whispers each paladin, and push the silly macro when the buffs fade. The people who don't give a shit about blessings (read: two thirds of the raid) don't get them unless we're doing a boss, which works fine for them.

If that were the case with my guild paladins, it probably wouldn't bug me too much as I could make a macro that I'd keep. Given that I'm pulled in on random raids or joint raids with another guild I'd rather not keep rebuilding macros every few hours.

* NullDevice kicks the server. "Floggings will continue until processing power improves!"
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"That was black magic, and it was easy to use. Easy and fun. Like Legos." -- Harry Dresden
-----------------------------------
That's what playing Ragnarok Online taught me: There's no problem in the universe that can't be resolved by the proper application of daggers to faces.
Addy
posted 09-21-2005 06:24:49 PM
I do agree that not buffing in a situation like that is laziness. It's only when people complain during battles or maybe even in between pulls (that is back-to-back pulling, no pauses for mana regen) it gets on my nerves when people whine about paladins not buffing.

**also when people complain in MC trash pulls, but we have our MC raids down to 3h so we could care less about pally buffs for trash

Addy fucked around with this message on 09-21-2005 at 06:25 PM.

Lashanna
noob
posted 09-21-2005 06:28:49 PM
quote:
Random Insanity Generator had this to say about Matthew Broderick:
If it were THAT I would have no problems with it.

No, he wants me to do that when the buff runs out. ie: I buff myself. So if I request a buff while he's trying to heal someone, either I'm shafted for the buff for a bit, or whoever was being healed just got killed.

And all the good raid paladins I've seen wind up using BuffAhoy. Spam one key and it auto-buffs people by selected preference. Usually Paladins break out by a single buff. One does King, one does Sanc, one does Might, etc. How hard is it to spam a single key once every 5 minutes? They do it with Decursive quite a bit!



Because Buff Ahoy doesn't work so hot, and there are issues of Line of Sight, and it DOES take mana, and there are so many reasons it's not so simple. There are many little qualifiers. I'd consider my guild to be full of good raiders (and if you disagree, you're not really worth arguing with, because the guild's record speaks for itself imo), and some very good paladins. Not a single one uses BuffAhoy.

For the record, with WhisperCast and BuffByTell, it DOESN'T have you "buff yourself". It puts you in a little box, with your name and requested buff. There's a button there that says "Cast" and it casts the buff requested on the first person in the queue. So if they're healing, it can still get through to you.

I actually find rogues to be the least grateful, and most annoying people to buff, though Hunters who demand Pet Blessings in a raid rank up there too.

In addition to all this, I'll be buffing Salvation, and someone will ask me for Kings, and I have to take the time to explain to them that I'm not doing Kings, and if I can't just give them Kings anyway, because if I do, they'll lose Salvation.

Yes, Paladins slack off now and again, some more than others, but you have no right to bitch incessantly about a process that's really very frustrating and not fun, or entertaining. So you go up there and you whack the boss with your weapons, you do your damage, you control your threat, display your damage meters at the end. Just remember that we're cleansing, and blessing, and secondary healing (very frustrating task in it's own). Lay off.

[Edit]: Something I forgot to mention, is that when you're buffing 40 people, because of Global Cooldowns, lag, some degree of Human Error, and having to find "hiding" raid members, by the time you're finished some people are down to three minutes on their blessing. I try remedy this by buffing key classes (Priests, Warriors, Rogues, Mages, for the most part) last.

Lashanna fucked around with this message on 09-21-2005 at 06:33 PM.

Dad's going to kill you. Really. He is.
Talonus
Loner
posted 09-21-2005 06:30:48 PM
quote:
Everyone wondered WTF when Lashanna wrote:
Lay off.

Salv please!

Lashanna
noob
posted 09-21-2005 06:34:29 PM
quote:
Talonus obviously shouldn't have said:
Salv please!

Okay, no. Just no.

Dad's going to kill you. Really. He is.
Talonus
Loner
posted 09-21-2005 06:36:53 PM
quote:
Lashanna wrote this stupid crap:
Okay, no. Just no.

Addy
posted 09-21-2005 06:40:17 PM
quote:
Lashanna got all f'ed up on Angel Dust and wrote:
I actually find rogues to be the least grateful

Batty
Doesn't Like You. Specifically you.
posted 09-21-2005 06:40:33 PM
quote:
Lashanna obviously shouldn't have said:
I hate you all.

All my blessings are assigned to alt keys, (Alt+1-5 for blessings). By the end of a night of Blackwing Lair, my left hand starts to develop the most uncomfortable pains


I solved this problem myself by killing all ctrl or alt bindings except for self casting, and dumped stuff over to the number pad. This takes the load off my left hand for pure hotkey use and spreads it a little more evenly to my right as well, and finding a key on the number pad is quite easy. Gives me an additional 15 ready to use hotkeys in addition to the usual numbers.

Lashanna
noob
posted 09-21-2005 06:45:15 PM
quote:
Batty said this about your mom:
I solved this problem myself by killing all ctrl or alt bindings except for self casting, and dumped stuff over to the number pad. This takes the load off my left hand for pure hotkey use and spreads it a little more evenly to my right as well, and finding a key on the number pad is quite easy. Gives me an additional 15 ready to use hotkeys in addition to the usual numbers.

I've never been able to use the numberpad for anything. Most of my time on computers growing up was on two laptops, and I've never really bothered otherise As far as my hands are concerned, the number pad is useless.

Dad's going to kill you. Really. He is.
Sean
posted 09-21-2005 06:45:33 PM
quote:
Addy wrote, obviously thinking too hard:

Just look around at other Rogues, and it's not too hard to believe as truth.

A Kansas City Shuffle is when everybody looks right, you go left.

It's not something people hear about.

Batty
Doesn't Like You. Specifically you.
posted 09-21-2005 06:47:45 PM
quote:
How.... Lashanna.... uughhhhhh:
I've never been able to use the numberpad for anything. Most of my time on computers growing up was on two laptops, and I've never really bothered otherise As far as my hands are concerned, the number pad is useless.

Ah yeah, I have to deal with that occasionally when I bring my laptop over to a friend's to play games, but it's really great for desktop use. Takes a little getting used to but now I love it, 27 ready to go spells at all times. Keeps my hands from cramping up real good.

Random Insanity Generator
Condom Ninja El Supremo
posted 09-21-2005 06:51:30 PM
quote:
Lashanna's fortune cookie read:
Because Buff Ahoy doesn't work so hot, and there are issues of Line of Sight, and it DOES take mana, and there are so many reasons it's not so simple. There are many little qualifiers. I'd consider my guild to be full of good raiders (and if you disagree, you're not really worth arguing with, because the guild's record speaks for itself imo), and some very good paladins. Not a single one uses BuffAhoy.

For the record, with WhisperCast and BuffByTell, it DOESN'T have you "buff yourself". It puts you in a little box, with your name and requested buff. There's a button there that says "Cast" and it casts the buff requested on the first person in the queue. So if they're healing, it can still get through to you.

I actually find rogues to be the least grateful, and most annoying people to buff, though Hunters who demand Pet Blessings in a raid rank up there too.

In addition to all this, I'll be buffing Salvation, and someone will ask me for Kings, and I have to take the time to explain to them that I'm not doing Kings, and if I can't just give them Kings anyway, because if I do, they'll lose Salvation.

Yes, Paladins slack off now and again, some more than others, but you have no right to bitch incessantly about a process that's really very frustrating and not fun, or entertaining. So you go up there and you whack the boss with your weapons, you do your damage, you control your threat, display your damage meters at the end. Just remember that we're cleansing, and blessing, and secondary healing (very frustrating task in it's own). Lay off.

[Edit]: Something I forgot to mention, is that when you're buffing 40 people, because of Global Cooldowns, lag, some degree of Human Error, and having to find "hiding" raid members, by the time you're finished some people are down to three minutes on their blessing. I try remedy this by buffing key classes (Priests, Warriors, Rogues, Mages, for the most part) last.


Never heard an issue with BA yet. Minor bugs from version changes in WoW asside of course.

If they're hiding, out out of range, whatever, that's THEIR fault. Sucks to be them. If I'm OOR or Stealthed and checking something when the buff cycles comes around, then I'm fucked. I accept that and move on. Again, the buffs are not considered critical to me. If I have them, great. I can do more. If I don't have them, I'm not hindered in any real way. They're a bonus to me. If the Paladins organize and they're not able to cover all the 'needed' buffs AND get me my desired buffs, so what? They're doing their job, I'm going to do mine. End of story. Fuckers who piss and moan because they want shit their way can fuck off and die. I've played the Buff Bitch routine before. Paladins have it easy in some considerations compared to EQ Chanters and Shamen.

* NullDevice kicks the server. "Floggings will continue until processing power improves!"
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"That was black magic, and it was easy to use. Easy and fun. Like Legos." -- Harry Dresden
-----------------------------------
That's what playing Ragnarok Online taught me: There's no problem in the universe that can't be resolved by the proper application of daggers to faces.
Random Insanity Generator
Condom Ninja El Supremo
posted 09-21-2005 06:53:19 PM
quote:
Batty thought I'd buy this for a dollar:
I solved this problem myself by killing all ctrl or alt bindings except for self casting, and dumped stuff over to the number pad. This takes the load off my left hand for pure hotkey use and spreads it a little more evenly to my right as well, and finding a key on the number pad is quite easy. Gives me an additional 15 ready to use hotkeys in addition to the usual numbers.

....

*takes notes to steal ideas*

* NullDevice kicks the server. "Floggings will continue until processing power improves!"
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"That was black magic, and it was easy to use. Easy and fun. Like Legos." -- Harry Dresden
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That's what playing Ragnarok Online taught me: There's no problem in the universe that can't be resolved by the proper application of daggers to faces.
Cavalier-
Pancake
posted 09-21-2005 07:45:08 PM
quote:
Lashanna had this to say about pies:
I actually find rogues to be the least grateful, and most annoying people to buff

I have a set macro that I use for buffs, whether they be during a raid or "drive-by". It auto /whispers the buffer "Thank You for the buff."

In most battles I rarely notice if I am buffed or not. If I get one, woot. If not, it isnt the end of the world...

In fact Addy (followed by every other rogue here.. and then followed closely by everyone else) will probably kill me for saying this.. I have to put up a stopwatch timer that beeps at me to remind me to reapply my poisons to my blades... otherwise I can go an entire game session (or raid) and not even realise until the last few minutes that I've not used any poisons at all.

Sean
posted 09-21-2005 07:49:57 PM
I don't bother with poison when instance-running until we hit a boss.
A Kansas City Shuffle is when everybody looks right, you go left.

It's not something people hear about.

Random Insanity Generator
Condom Ninja El Supremo
posted 09-21-2005 08:02:38 PM
quote:
The logic train ran off the tracks when Cavalier- said:
In fact Addy (followed by every other rogue here.. and then followed closely by everyone else) will probably kill me for saying this.. I have to put up a stopwatch timer that beeps at me to remind me to reapply my poisons to my blades... otherwise I can go an entire game session (or raid) and not even realise until the last few minutes that I've not used any poisons at all.

I'm worse. I generally avoid using poisons.

Draws too much additional aggro. :|

* NullDevice kicks the server. "Floggings will continue until processing power improves!"
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"That was black magic, and it was easy to use. Easy and fun. Like Legos." -- Harry Dresden
-----------------------------------
That's what playing Ragnarok Online taught me: There's no problem in the universe that can't be resolved by the proper application of daggers to faces.
Snugglits
I LIKE TO ABUSE THE ALERT MOD BUTTON AND I ENJOY THE FLAVOR OF SWEET SWEET COCK.
posted 09-21-2005 08:35:05 PM
They're taking
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Densetsu
NOT DRYSART
posted 09-22-2005 12:11:43 PM
quote:
From the book of Batty, chapter 3, verse 16:
Ah yeah, I have to deal with that occasionally when I bring my laptop over to a friend's to play games, but it's really great for desktop use. Takes a little getting used to but now I love it, 27 ready to go spells at all times. Keeps my hands from cramping up real good.

You know that they sell peripheral 10-key number pads for laptops, and they're not very expensive, right?

I was in the Virgin Islands once. I met a girl, we ate lobster, drank piƱa coladas. At sunset, we made love like sea otters. That was a pretty good day. Why couldn't I get that day over, and over?
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