What I want is a modern machine, capable of playing most of today's games, and with a very spacious hard drive. Also, nothing from Dell or Gateway or anyone else who's going to pack a computer full of shit that I have no intention of ever using. I want a worthwhile machine.
Where would I go to look for this?
Second, there is no excuse not to buy a laptop with a Pentium-M processor in it. None. The Ghz rating may seems suspiciously low, but they're the best mobile processors on the market. This is an undeniable fact and if you purchased a laptop with any other processor in it you have wasted your money. imo 
Dell is probably your best route. If nothing else, you can Kegwen fucked around with this message on 07-13-2005 at 10:05 PM.
when you get it.
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Second, there is no excuse not to buy a laptop with a Pentium-M processor in it. None. The Ghz rating may seems suspiciously low, but they're the best mobile processors on the market. This is an undeniable fact and if you purchased a laptop with any other processor in it you have wasted your money. imo
Unless you're looking for a portable desktop in a laptop chassis, in which case, go ahead and buy the beefiest processor you can get--just don't expect any battery life.
UBB code, damn you! *shakes fist* Alidane fucked around with this message on 07-13-2005 at 10:54 PM.
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Unless you're looking for a portable desktop in a laptop chassis, in which case, go ahead and buy the beefiest processor you can get--just don't expect any battery life.[/i]
No, then you're just an idiot 
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No, then you're just an idiot
I dunno, the AMD 64 mobile processors might outperform the Pentium M for gaming, but theres still no way they'd have the battery life.
It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the beans of Java the thoughts aquire speed, the teeth acquire stains, the stains become a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.
It also cost me $1600 whereas a comparable Toshiba laptop from Fry's was around $2600.
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No reason to get a mobile proc if battery life is of no concern. Mine has a P4 2.8 ghz in it and gets 2 hours or so of life, which is plenty since it's plugged in most of the time. You're not going to be gaming on battery; no battery lasts very long doing that. I'd recommend a Toshiba laptop of some sort of you're not going to go with the Dell. They don't have a lot of crap they stick in their machines, they have some pretty nice widescreen models with sexy graphics in them, and I've heard they can take a bit of abuse in transport due to what they make the cases out of (some kind of lightweight metal, not sure what).
...Then don't buy a laptop. That's what small form factor PCs and LCDs are for, and much much cheaper at that. Laptops are not gaming systems. There are laptops that are quite capable of gaming, yes, and then there are desktops stuck into a laptop form factor which get very very hot easily, weigh a ton, and still don't perform that much better than their lighter Pentium-M cousins. I do not suggest purchasing the latter under any circumstances.
Toshiba is also pretty good. Toshiba and IBM offer the best PC laptops on the market as far as I can tell, but in their cases you get what you pay for. Usually the difference is in build quality, but of course it's a lot more expensive.
Mine came as:
1.73ghz Pentium M
6800 Go OF DOOM
512mb DDR-2 Dual Channeled
40gb HDD
All the other standard spiffy built in things
The thing is right behind my desktop in terms of performance, and that's only because my main rig has a 6800GT in it. I know it would get trounced otherwise.
Did I mention I get about 4 hours of battery life when you're doing stuff like word processing? It's not shabby at all.
Dude, get a Dell, they make some badass laptops these days.
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...Then don't buy a laptop. That's what small form factor PCs and LCDs are for, and much much cheaper at that. Laptops are not gaming systems. There are laptops that are quite capable of gaming, yes, and then there are desktops stuck into a laptop form factor which get very very hot easily, weigh a ton, and still don't perform that much better than their lighter Pentium-M cousins. I do not suggest purchasing the latter under any circumstances.Toshiba is also pretty good. Toshiba and IBM offer the best PC laptops on the market as far as I can tell, but in their cases you get what you pay for. Usually the difference is in build quality, but of course it's a lot more expensive.
*shrugs* It was convenient to have a computer I could take with me to school and stuff. Kinda hard to drag a monitor, keyboard, mouse, and box around with you.
It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the beans of Java the thoughts aquire speed, the teeth acquire stains, the stains become a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.
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*shrugs* It was convenient to have a computer I could take with me to school and stuff. Kinda hard to drag a monitor, keyboard, mouse, and box around with you.
Images blatantly stolen from Cardboard Box A on SomethingAwful!
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They best load correctly.
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They best load correctly.
So you need a fairly large backpack for the shuttle, mouse, and keyboard plus a seperate case for what appears to be a fairly expensive monitor compared to a single laptop which would fit in a case roughly the size of what that monitor fits into.
How is shuttle + monitor + keyboard + mouse as capable of being used on a small school desk than a laptop?
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So you need a fairly large backpack for the shuttle, mouse, and keyboard plus a seperate case for what appears to be a fairly expensive monitor compared to a single laptop which would fit in a case roughly the size of what that monitor fits into.How is shuttle + monitor + keyboard + mouse as capable of being used on a small school desk than a laptop?
I don't think I got the point of posting those pictures across very well. Let's try again:
You don't take a 12lbs Pentium 4 gaming latop with an hour of battery life to class. That's dumb. Some people would say it's dumb to take any laptop to class, but I disagree. My Powerbook's battery life is barely acceptable at 2.5-3 hours, but at least it doesn't weigh much and isn't that big.
The general consensus on what's best for, say, college is to get a SFF computer and a laptop and still spend less than you would on a single high-end gaming laptop. Unless you go to LAN parties 5 times a week, a high-end ($3k+) gaming laptop is a bad investment. I don't think I can talk anyone out of spending their absurd amounts of money on something like that, but I'm certainly going to express my opinion on how much of a waste it is if they ask me.
All I was saying with the small form factor suggestion was that you should get a smaller, but capable, portable laptop and a SFF pc if you're concerned about space/weight. If you paid more than ~$2600 for a laptop as your primary gaming PC, I am of the opinion that you were ripped off, and that you will agree with me in less than a year. Unless you're loaded and don't care, I guess. To those, I say: enjoy your 9-12lbs behemoth that won't even be reasonably capable by next year and is unupgradable (Dell's laptop upgrades are expensive and impractical) that you paid 3-4 grand for.
Mooj: Most of the above wasn't really directed at you or relevent to what you were asking for. My recommendation to you? Buy a Dell Inspiron 9300 and be happy. Or, for larger investments, Pentium-M based Toshibas or Thinkpads. I recommend 1GB of RAM (or more!) and nVidia graphics chipsets (probably the 6800 for your needs).
Kegwen fucked around with this message on 07-14-2005 at 03:57 PM.
Hi Nae!!!
