MB K8N NEO2 PLATINUM MSI
CABLE HD|COOLMAX SATA 24" 2H BLUE
VGA PNY|6800GT 256M VCG6800GAPB
POWER SP|480W(P4)W0013 (SL) TT RTL
CPU AMD 64 |3500+ ATHLON 939P 90 RT
2 x DDR DIMM 512MB|PC3200 PT CORSAIR RT
HD 250GB|HITC SATA 8MB 14R9464
DVD+/-RW 16X SONY DRU710A RTL
DVD|SAMSUNG 16X TS-H352A/WBGH
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Delidgamond came out of the closet to say:
Whatever you say Blindy
No, I'm really asking for comments because my knowledge isn't all that up to date with the new hardware and stuff. I haven't put together a new computer since late 2001.
I've based these on what I've read is good, but I don't know if there's better or whatnot, or hell, if even all this stuff is compatible. For example: it appears the GeForce 6600 (which is the newer, cheaper, better price/performance one) only has a PCI-Express bus, but it doesn't appear that there are any Athlon64 mobos that have PCI-Express slots. 
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Drysart is attacking the darkness!
MB K8N NEO2 PLATINUM MSI
Other than that, looks 
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Holden came out of the closet to say:
I'd really change to a ASUS Motherboard not MSI.
Is this just vendor preference or is there a legit reason for it? Ars Technica recommended the MSI board.
quote:MSI boards have about the same reliability as a streetcorner whore taking an HIV test.
When they turned on the Infinite Improbability Drive, Drysart stammered,
Is this just vendor preference or is there a legit reason for it? Ars Technica recommended the MSI board.
No offense intended to streetcorner whores or the whore population in general.
From everything I've been told, MSI and Asus are the ONLY reliable brands for Motherboards. Asus tends to cost a little more from what I've seen.
I just ordered my new computer last week, because this one is growing a bit decrepit. Everything is broken in one way or another and has a quick fix applied to it
I'm really in no place to comment on computers though, because I haven't looked at hardware for years, either.
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When the babel fish was in place, it was apparent `Doc said:
MSI boards have about the same reliability as a streetcorner whore taking an HIV test.No offense intended to streetcorner whores or the whore population in general.
So they are very reliable?
I have an MSI board and it works fine. My last board was MSI and it worked fine too. Asus is the same thing for more, as far as I can tell.
HOWEVER, I had compusa run tests on it and they can find nothing wrong with it. So whether or not it truly is the cause is anyone's guess.
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Drysart probably says this to all the girls:
Since my old computer gave up the ghost unexpectedly, I'm purchasing a new system from Newegg. The parts are below (I'm only buying the parts I need, I'm scavenging the sound card and a couple other things from the current corpse). Comments and stuff are appreciated.MB K8N NEO2 PLATINUM MSI
CABLE HD|COOLMAX SATA 24" 2H BLUE
VGA PNY|6800GT 256M VCG6800GAPB
POWER SP|480W(P4)W0013 (SL) TT RTL
CPU AMD 64 |3500+ ATHLON 939P 90 RT
2 x DDR DIMM 512MB|PC3200 PT CORSAIR RT
HD 250GB|HITC SATA 8MB 14R9464
DVD+/-RW 16X SONY DRU710A RTL
DVD|SAMSUNG 16X TS-H352A/WBGH
Have you used SATA hardware before? If not, stick with the MSI, if so, get an Asus.
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Bacon369 came out of the closet to say:
Have you used SATA hardware before? If not, stick with the MSI, if so, get an Asus.
No. What's there's to "use" about it? It's just a different bus, isn't it? Like the difference between IDE and SCSI?
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Drysart had this to say about Captain Planet:
No. What's there's to "use" about it? It's just a different bus, isn't it? Like the difference between IDE and SCSI?
Sort of. But they can be a real pain in the ass depending on what brand of HD you get and what brand of Mobo you use. Plus, if you are going to use it with windows that just adds more spice to the issue.
That Hitachi said it was boxed with the HD only. Make sure the website has proper drivers available. Seagate SATA drives are the most user freindly (they need nothting for windows to recognize them other than the proper Bios settings). Raid is also a really good way to go with the large drives and the amount of balls you would have backing them up. Just about all the new Asus boards have Raid 0 , 1 and 2 built on.
I don't like it, =/
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`Doc had this to say about Jimmy Carter:
MSI boards have about the same reliability as a streetcorner whore taking an HIV test.
I could say the same about a lot of Asus boards. It all boils down to models, not vendors.
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A sleep deprived Lashanna stammered:
Drysart, with SATA, Windows doesn't have SATA drivers, so you have to install some drivers through DOS before you can actually have a HDD.I don't like it, =/
He won't have to worry about DOS. Assuming he is going with Windows, Drysart is also purchasing a 64bit processor. Durring the install of XP there is a point that it asks you to hit F6 for additional drivers.
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Lashanna was naked while typing this:
Drysart, with SATA, Windows doesn't have SATA drivers, so you have to install some drivers through DOS before you can actually have a HDD.I don't like it, =/
This is incorrect.
Straight Windows XP/SP2 install with an ASUS K8N-E using a Seagate SATA drive.
Works just fine
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Rodent King came out of the closet to say:
You bought the video card just for the watch didn't you?
How can you pass up a watch that comes with a free video card?
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When the babel fish was in place, it was apparent Drysart said:
How can you pass up a watch that comes with a free video card?
I did pass up on the beach towel I think it was when I got my processor and motherboard.
(2) Windows XP SP1 or greater on install (I don't know about stock) will recognise a SATA HD on an Intel chipset motherboard just fine. I installed one yesterday, didn't have to change a thing.
(3) I've had issues with MSI in the past, I'd recommend ASUS over them personally.
(4) The SATA hard drive needs *NO* drivers. A SATA HD is a SATA HD. I wouldn't recommend Segate personally because their IDE drives have had a bad history, but most manufacturers seem to be using their SCSI based hardware in making SATA drives so it might be ok. I'd recomend Maxtor or Western Digital for the HD. It's all a question of if the OS will support the controller or not. That's where you run into issues.
They are also going to start using parts of PCI Express bus to drive other add in slots but that phase of the expansion hasn't really kicked in yet so it is pretty much a moot point.
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Drysart had this to say about Reading Rainbow:
I've got an IDE drive I can salvage from my existing system to use as a boot drive, if necessary.
It's the same process you need to undertake when installing windows to a RAID array that doesn't have it's drivers on the windows disk. It's not all that complicated. I don't know why people all fuss about it. Blindy. fucked around with this message on 11-08-2004 at 03:35 PM.
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Drysart had this to say about Punky Brewster:
Since my old computer gave up the ghost unexpectedly, I'm purchasing a new system from Newegg. The parts are below (I'm only buying the parts I need, I'm scavenging the sound card and a couple other things from the current corpse). Comments and stuff are appreciated.MB K8N NEO2 PLATINUM MSI
CABLE HD|COOLMAX SATA 24" 2H BLUE
VGA PNY|6800GT 256M VCG6800GAPB
POWER SP|480W(P4)W0013 (SL) TT RTL
CPU AMD 64 |3500+ ATHLON 939P 90 RT
2 x DDR DIMM 512MB|PC3200 PT CORSAIR RT
HD 250GB|HITC SATA 8MB 14R9464
DVD+/-RW 16X SONY DRU710A RTL
DVD|SAMSUNG 16X TS-H352A/WBGH
Cpu Cooling? Go with The Zalman.
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`Doc had this to say about Optimus Prime:
MSI boards have about the same reliability as a streetcorner whore taking an HIV test.No offense intended to streetcorner whores or the whore population in general.
Depending on what you're expecting, that could be fairly reliable.
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Delidgamond had this to say about Reading Rainbow:
Whatever you say Blindy
COMEDY GOLD!
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From the book of Naimah, chapter 3, verse 16:
PCI Express is basicly the next gen of AGP but they plan on using the divided channels for basicly everything in the future. Back in the day you had AGP then they went up to AGP 2x then 4 then what we were at before 8x. PCI Express is much the same way. Currently the extra bandwidth is pretty much wasted as it is once again twice as much bandwidth as AGP 8x. The current technology can't produce that much traffic so it is largly wasted and the reason is mostly to make your motherboard future proof for later graphics cards.They are also going to start using parts of PCI Express bus to drive other add in slots but that phase of the expansion hasn't really kicked in yet so it is pretty much a moot point.
PCI-X has *dick* to do with AGP.
AGP was developed to give a dedicated bus to the video subsystem. That's all. They could have called it the IBBH (Insert Blue Balls Here) slot and it would have been the same.
PCI-X is the evolution of the PCI bus itself. These slots have been in servers for a few years now and are starting to be migrated into mainstream computing. The original PCI spec allowed for a 128 bit bus at 66mhz at max. Most PCI-X slots are 64 bit at 100 or 133mhz. If you check your motherboard you generally have 3 busses on the board. One is the AGP, one is the PCI bus associated to all on-board hardware (drive controllers, USB, PS/2, etc) and then one devoted to *ALL* the PCI slots in the PC. On your upper grade motherboards you have some of the slots on seperate busses (Maybe a 2 / 3 split for a 5 PCI board). For servers this was not sufficient and most of your Server grade boards carry a dedicated bus for 2 or 3 of the slots out of 5 or 6. I'm not sure how the plan to play this out for mainstream computing, but I'd expect the same from the upper grade board makers in due time.
