Functionally speaking, AND visually.
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I do not have WinXP/2000 So cannot do the Mem Manager view, but WinAmp has always and even in this version, performs worse for me. Especially with my collection size.
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Canadian Mountee spewed forth this undeniable truth:
... The collection size affects performance?
Yes
WinAmp will stall out, or all together lockup going through my collection if I do a scan through, or update dead links (Which it TOTALLY sucks at doing anyway)
WMP does a scan through, and can clean up dead links in a matter of seconds, with the click of a button.
Loading playlists, if you have larger playlists takes longer in WinAmp that WMP. And you have to wait for it to update the display (Read the names, update thier times, etc) everytime you load it. WMP keeps that info all clean and organized, and never has a lag out loading playlists.
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Verily, Faelynn LeAndris doth proclaim:
YesWinAmp will stall out, or all together lockup going through my collection if I do a scan through, or update dead links (Which it TOTALLY sucks at doing anyway)
WMP does a scan through, and can clean up dead links in a matter of seconds, with the click of a button.
Loading playlists, if you have larger playlists takes longer in WinAmp that WMP. And you have to wait for it to update the display (Read the names, update thier times, etc) everytime you load it. WMP keeps that info all clean and organized, and never has a lag out loading playlists.
I've gotten much the opposite. I have a ~80 hour playlist that WMP continually tries to tell me is 10 hours or something else rediculously short. And When Winamp hits a dead file for me it just skips over.
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Both were playing music at the time with the same play list open.
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Alaan probably says this to all the girls:
I've gotten much the opposite. I have a ~80 hour playlist that WMP continually tries to tell me is 10 hours or something else rediculously short. And When Winamp hits a dead file for me it just skips over.[Invalid image tag]
Both were playing music at the time with the same play list open.
WinAmp just skips over em, which sucks, and just leaves the dead link there. WMP skips the file, turns the name red as a dead link, then (If you have the option set) searches for the file while continuing on it's normal path. A few seconds and that link is either restored, or removed. WinAmp does nothing.
And I think thier usage is comparable enough NOT to be an issue.
As far as functionality and looks to begin with. I was talking the new look of WinAmp, and the functional layout and such, looks remarkably WMP-Like.
Which version of WinAmp are you running there anyway? [ 12-17-2003: Message edited by: Faelynn LeAndris ]
Edit: Running WA5. Just installed yesterday. The WMP is version 9 DLed from MS less than a month ago. [ 12-17-2003: Message edited by: Alaan ]
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Alaan was naked while typing this:
I'm sticking with Winamp either way. I'm so used to using it and I can do everything I want without going to any menus pretty much. And the fact I can just dump it into my system tray to free up some space. AND NO STUPID VISUALIZATIONS POPPING UP WITHOUT MY PERMISSION! Didn't even bother installing them this time.
Visualizations suck.
And yeah, there is no reason for anyone to really switch from what they are comfortable with. Personally, I didn't even get into the whole MP3 when the big rush was around and WinAmp was all there was. I got into more after WMP evolved, and it had more functionality/options and convienience. So chose it over WinAmp. *shrugs*
WinAmp still looks and acts almost exactly like WMP now though, which was my point.
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When the babel fish was in place, it was apparent Faelynn LeAndris said:
Visualizations suck.And yeah, there is no reason for anyone to really switch from what they are comfortable with. Personally, I didn't even get into the whole MP3 when the big rush was around and WinAmp was all there was. I got into more after WMP evolved, and it had more functionality/options and convienience. So chose it over WinAmp. *shrugs*
WinAmp still looks and acts almost exactly like WMP now though, which was my point.
Except they have a decent independent skinning community.
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And I was all like 'Oh yeah?' and Tatsukaze was all like:
Except they have a decent independent skinning community.
I was going to comment on that except I've never looked for WMP skins. Didn't know if there was many out there.
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Tatsukaze's account was hax0red to write:
Except they have a decent independent skinning community.
I very rarely bother with skins at all, my WMP sits minimized or in the systemtray nearly all the time anyway, since I can control its functions through my keyboard (Even in games or whatever else I am doing, I love my Keyboard! 
Note: That is a Keyboard feature, I can control WinAmp the same way) so I dont really care all that much about skins.
My T3 Skin kicks ass.
The MiniBar Skin is the Image in my other post.
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Alaan's fortune cookie read:
Got a Logitech with all the media controls and other buttons recently myself. Nice to have. Especially since I'm finally remembering all the other buttons and what they do. Such as the Web Cam button that opens FFXI.
They kick so much ass don't they? I have more buttons than I know what to do with!
And in all seriousness, I'm up to a 40gb, 9000 file playlist which takes all of... 1 second to save and load. Where's the "slowness" in that?
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There was much rejoicing when Nina said this:
mines smaller lolAnd in all seriousness, I'm up to a 40gb, 9000 file playlist which takes all of... 1 second to save and load. Where's the "slowness" in that?
And in that 1 second, I can load the same size list into WMP, have it auto-categorized, correctly displayed (Not waiting for it to load the names instead of the filename, and time), and playing.
And before there was WinAmp 5, With WMP I never had to bother with open/loading at all to get a playlist. Every playlist I had ever made would be displayed in a small, category menu, on the left side of my WMP or in the Quickaccess Drop down Menu when WMP opened. Of which I could add too, remove, or edit on the fly with ease because of the layout/categorization of WMP's media Library (Im not even talking about having your MP3s categorized by folders and whatnot on your actual PC, this would have all of it done right at your fingertips, automatically with the ability to manually edit if you liked.)
And I can scale the minibar too, but I'm not gonna bother to make it illegible like that.
wtfog
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Canadian Mountee was listening to Cher while typing:
My play list autoloads and doesn't take a second to load.wtfog
Talking about switching playlists. Whatever playlist you close WinAmp with, it opens with.
But personally, and like others, I have different Playlists for different moods/times, etc.
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Canadian Mountee had this to say about Robocop:
Yeah, and that's done instantly as well. I mean, I like both programs (I use WMP for movies, and Winamp for music), But I'm not really seeing this playlist lag you're talking about.
He's on like a P3 444mhz with 128 RAM.
It's not something people hear about.
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Sean's account was hax0red to write:
He's on like a P3 444mhz with 128 RAM.
Athlon 800 with 256Ram. 
Also not using WinXP. Of course it stands to reason performance would be even better if upgraded, so I'd still stand by my choices.
Now, Winamp 5 owns. I'm still using the beta though... I think I'll upgrade now.
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We were all impressed when Alaan wrote:
I was going to comment on that except I've never looked for WMP skins. Didn't know if there was many out there.
You probably have to hack a dll file to give it any decent skins. They did that with Windows XP. I like Microsoft, but they do some really stupid shit every so often... 
edit: decent means not HUGELOL like Fae's T3 skin while still pretty [ 12-18-2003: Message edited by: Kegwen ]
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Naimah had this to say about (_|_):
I just use iTunes as my player, I know it isn't the best but it makes sounds which is pretty much what I want.
IIRC that takes up more than either Winamp or WMP. Being as you have that whole second program not related to music going on at the same time pretty much. At least on Windows.
I'll stick with winamp, it's nice when I'm running two windows of EQ 
Hell, I've seen 1.5mb once. It just varies, and I don't care either way with 640mb of RAM =p
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There was much rejoicing when Kegwen said this:
You probably have to hack a dll file to give it any decent skins. They did that with Windows XP. I like Microsoft, but they do some really stupid shit every so often...edit: decent means not HUGELOL like Fae's T3 skin while still pretty
Um, no. You can click on skins in the menu, and it takes you to thier Skins library, you find a skin, and there is an Update Skin button. It downloads, and autoupdates the skin. No editing, hacking, or modification required. Just like WinAmp. Also it gets stored in yout WMP Library, just like the skins do in WinAmp's drop down menu. Except in WMP it stores them in a Preview format, showing you what the skin looks/will look like, before you put it on. So you don't just have to go off filenames like you do in WinAmp, if you have a lot of skins.
And that T3 Skin is a smaller console than WinAmp in everything except the minibar and playlist. On the minibar it is taller, but more narrow, where as WinAmps is longer but shorte, and the playlist is wider but shorter. (Which is irrelevant on both, because you can resize the playlist window on bother players.)
I use both WMP and WinAmp for different things. WMP is my normal, personal player, but I still use WinAmp on occasion for the ShoutCAST.
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Blindy Claus thought this was the Ricky Martin Fan Club Forum and wrote:
i've got a fucking gig of ram.
who gives a shit?
I'm with you. I'm gonna use whichever program i like better, unless it takes up hundreds of megs of ram.
As for me: I still see no reason to switch from winamp 2.81
Loads very fast, I've never had an issue with it. I don't need skins as its almost always minimized to my system tray. [ 12-18-2003: Message edited by: Falaanla Marr ]
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Falaanla Marr said this about your mom:
Loads very fast, I've never had an issue with it. I don't need skins as its almost always minimized to my system tray.
I'd do that if I didn't change songs all the time (and I like to know what it changes to without waiting for the song to start up)
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Doomie had this to say about Knight Rider:
Foobar 2000.
A-fucking-men. No stupid visuals. No dumbass skins. Just an audio player that works and works well. I keep everything minimized the the system tray, I don't care what it looks like as long is it plays music and doesn't eat up resources.
-Tok
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Toktuk had this to say about Pirotess:
A-fucking-men. No stupid visuals. No dumbass skins. Just an audio player that works and works well. I keep everything minimized the the system tray, I don't care what it looks like as long is it plays music and doesn't eat up resources.-Tok
That's so boring
That's like disabling explorer.exe and running everything through task manager
edit: okay, not THAT bad... [ 12-18-2003: Message edited by: Kegwen ]
Foobar 2000. 
