"Hi i´am currently working on an web os project ( www.project-io.org/project-io.beta
) i´am also a great fan of your art and would like to use one of your
characters ( http://www.deviantart.com/view/3625178/ - Happy Demonic
Halloween ) as a mascot for my project. Currently i´am making no money
with this so i can´t pay you ( this may change soon ).
If you allow me to use your art please contact me.
Greetings Ronny Stiftel"
Too back this fuck nut posted my art BEFORE fucking well asking me. AND he removed my signature AND didn't even link or credit me!
And now, I'm posting his e-mail. evill33t@linux.net
[ 11-17-2003: Message edited by: Ares ]
And if any one of you fools see this as a "form of flattery"...Stealing isn't flattery!
sigpic courtesy of This Guy, original modified by me
Welcome to the internet.
While you main own the art, and deserive due credit, it's the nature of the beast. Look at half the post Icons, is someone being paid so we can use them... No. Once again, its the nature of the beast. [ 11-17-2003: Message edited by: Sashu ]
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When the babel fish was in place, it was apparent Sashu said:
BreatheWelcome to the internet.
While you main own the art, and deserive due credit, it's the nature of the beast. Look at half the post Icons, is someone being paid so we can use them... No. Once again, its the nature of the beast.
Why do you think that I use my own work?
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Alaan stumbled drunkenly to the keyboard and typed:
You have any copyright notices laying around your site?
He got it off of deviant art which has strict rules about such things
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Ares had this to say about Jimmy Carter:
Why do you think that I use my own work?
I am proud to say that I had this picture made for me and have the right to use it.
Seen it on sites, someone else saying it was theirs.
I just write the webmaster, they take it down or credit me.
Pisses me off though that people do that. It kept me from putting stuff up on any site for a long time. But, I know what work I did, I know people are going to steal it if they think they can get away with it. So, I will just keep doing what I have been.
I don't think anyone will mind.
It's not something people hear about.
Just the other day, I allowed someone to use one of my CGs for their website. No big deal. They linked me and e-mailed me and everything.
Disclaimer: I'm just kidding, I love all living things.
The fastest draw in the Crest.
"The Internet is MY critical thinking course." -Maradon
"Gambling for the husband, an abortion for the wife and fireworks for the kids they chose to keep? Fuck you, Disneyland. The Pine Ridge Indian Reservation is the happiest place on Earth." -JooJooFlop
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Liam had this to say about Cuba:
Why do you hate my project-IO so much? had I known you'd react this badly I'd have never have done it!
*bites Liam*
btw, where's my portrait!? 
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Alaan had this to say about Pirotess:
I am proud to say that I had this picture made for me and have the right to use it.
I understand how annoying plagiarism can be, but this can probably be corrected without much conflict
Duh, duh, dunnnnn!
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
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Bloodsage had this to say about Knight Rider:
How is this different from stealing music?Duh, duh, dunnnnn!
talk about trying to egg people on, are we? for a starting artist, such as my friend from third mine getting something of his coppied on a website without permission, it is no diffrent.
for a larger, well known band, this is an entirely diffrent issue. [ 11-18-2003: Message edited by: diadem ]
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diadem had this to say about Jimmy Carter:
talk about trying to egg people on, are we? for a starting artist, such as my friend from third mine getting something of his coppied on a website without permission, it is no diffrent.for a larger, well known band, this is an entirely diffrent issue.
Theft is theft. Don't try to justify it.
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Bloodsage probably says this to all the girls:
How is this different from stealing music?Duh, duh, dunnnnn!
Well wouldn't this be more like someone pretending to have written a song and using it in some commercial publication? The aequivalent to downloading a song would probably be sneaking a camera into a gallery and taking photos of the displayed works then looking at them at home. [ 11-18-2003: Message edited by: Shazorx / Modrakien ]
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Shazorx / Modrakien thought about the meaning of life:
Well wouldn't this be more like someone pretending to have written a song and using it in some commercial publication? The aequivalent to downloading a song would probably be sneaking a camera into a gallery and taking photos of the displayed works then looking at them at home.
Or saying heres my work in X gallery.
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Man, who wouldn't want to be Bloodsage:
How is this different from stealing music?Duh, duh, dunnnnn!
When you download mp3s you generally leave the artist's name and song title on the file?
However, that's just for little personal things. If you're doing anything that involves monetary or other profit, you must legally give the artist credit, and get their permission to use their work. The reason is that, if you don't have their permission, you're basically stealing money from them. The original artist is fully within his or her rights to say, "I see you're using my artwork to make money. I want half of everything you earned using my art, or I'll see you in court."
It makes me somewhat reluctant to make any graphical changes to the website at the company where I work. 
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Jens had this to say about Optimus Prime:
Theft is theft. Don't try to justify it.
Yes, but there's theft I care about and theft I don't
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Maradon! obviously shouldn't have said:
Yes, but there's theft I care about and theft I don't
No one is asking you to care.
quote:Email DeviantArt about the offense. They may decide to press charges. After all, if it's stolen against their policy and they refuse to do anything about it, then they are considered at fault as well.
Ares is attacking the darkness!
He got it off of deviant art which has strict rules about such things
And since the publisher is using your art for a product (even an open-source product), they're technically stealing for corporate use. Think about how much money is made using the Linux Penguin graphic, if you need an example.
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Channeling the spirit of Sherlock Holmes, diadem absently fondled Watson and proclaimed:
talk about trying to egg people on, are we? for a starting artist, such as my friend from third mine getting something of his coppied on a website without permission, it is no diffrent.for a larger, well known band, this is an entirely diffrent issue.
So what you're saying is it's okay to steal from rich people, but not from poor people?
Interesting.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
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Bloodsage said this about your mom:
So what you're saying is it's okay to steal from rich people, but not from poor people?Interesting.
Onose! You've turned Bloodsage into Robin Hood! ^.^
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Bloodsage had this to say about dark elf butts:
So what you're saying is it's okay to steal from rich people, but not from poor people?
Only if you steal what to the artist is just a few cents. Music pirates are fighting to stop the MAN, baby!
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Maradon! had this to say about Pirotess:
Yes, but there's theft I care about and theft I don't
What you care about doesn't really matter here. It's theft. Don't try to justify theft, you're retarded if you try.
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Nobody really understood why Jens wrote:
What you care about doesn't really matter here. It's theft. Don't try to justify theft, you're retarded if you try.
How about the ol' "stealing a loaf of bread to feed your starving family" thing, eh? Even JESUS said that's okay.
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Bloodsage had this to say about Robocop:
How is this different from stealing music?Duh, duh, dunnnnn!
No no, you don't get. Stealing art from someone we do know is BAAAAAaaad! Like, really.
Stealing software and music from rich programmers and artists on the other hand, isn't. You know, those people who have so much money that they eat MILLION DOLLAR bills for breakfast. [ 11-18-2003: Message edited by: Tarquinn ]
However, if your personal moral compass allows you leeway to commit theft of intellectual property that you think is being protected through abusive legal activity, I don't fault you. I won't exactly be surprised if something bad happens to you because of it, because the law's like that, but I won't criticize your decision.
Now, for the actual point of the thread:
The random person above... Did he say "no" once you asked him to take it down, because you had not given him your permission? If he complied with your request, I'd imagine he was just being far too optimistic about what your reply would be. He took it down, per your demand, and all is well. Don't worry about it. There are other things that you can better spend your time on than simply being annoyed at an idiot. 
If he hasn't taken it down yet, go after him with every legal option you have. The law is on your side, especially since he has altered the work to remove your signature on it - which can be legally-construed as misrepresentation of the work as his own. You are not in the wrong at all for attempting to protect your created property.
I hope it's the former, because the latter takes a lot of work. Especially if the guy is in another country.
