Distance and time are two completely different things, only being related when it comes to speed (Distance divided by time).
Time is measured in years, months, weeks, days, hours, minutes, and seconds.
Distance is measured in kilometres/miles, metres/yards, centimetres/inches.
WHY DO PEOPLE MIX THE TWO UP?!
Saying you're x kilometres away from Toronto is correct. Saying you're x minutes away from it isn't.
Just felt like ranting.
When you're "x-minutes away from Toronto" that's used as a device to express how long it would take for you to get to Toronto at your expected rate of speed.
It's not like people are using it incorrectly, they're just not phrasing like you would like.
I don't "do" exact Kilometres. it's easier to say that I'm a 40min drive away, instead of said klicks away.
it confuses people less.
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Skaw had this to say about Optimus Prime:
I win! You bastards!
Actually, I thought Lash's explaination rather pwned yours.
Not just because she called Ruvyen an idiot.
Really!
I just want to be popular.
That clear my viewpoint up any?
[EDIT- Now that I think about it, "length of time" is also incorrect, as length expresses distance...] [ 07-11-2002: Message edited by: Fighter ]
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Everyone wondered WTF when Fighter wrote:
How far away from something you are is distance, not time. How long it would take you to get somewhere is time.That clear my viewpoint up any?
Yes, until you realize TIME IS A DEFINITE (invariable) WHICH IS SOMETIMES USED TO MEASURE DISTANCE (variable). This is simple mathmatics here. Get with it.
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[EDIT- Now that I think about it, "length of time" is also incorrect, as length expresses distance...]
Think length on a timeline, Tex.
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Fighter thought this was the Ricky Martin Fan Club Forum and wrote:
How far away from something you are is distance, not time. How long it would take you to get somewhere is time.That clear my viewpoint up any?
[EDIT- Now that I think about it, "length of time" is also incorrect, as length expresses distance...]
Not really, because they're talking about how long it would take them to get there...
Look at a Rate Chart (Time and Distance)...
Lets say It's a 3 hour trip, at a rate of 60mph. So it's 180 miles away (follow?). You drive 120 miles, and you have 60 miles to go... You are now 1 hour away from your destination at your current rate.
Stop trying to sound smart by nitpicking things people do every day.
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How.... Lashanna.... uughhhhhh:
Not really, because they're talking about how long it would take them to get there...Look at a Rate Chart (Time and Distance)...
Lets say It's a 3 hour trip, at a rate of 60mph. So it's 180 miles away (follow?). You drive 120 miles, and you have 60 miles to go... You are now 1 hour away from your destination at your current rate.
Hmm... Good point.
Measuring distance in terms of time doesn't make much sense, but measuring a car trip in terms of time certainly does.
When someone says they're a half hour out of town, the obvious implication is that it is a measurement of time as it pertains to the car trip.
The reason for the switch up being that the actual, physical distance is completely meaningless to anyone who isn't in a helicopter, while the time needed to get there by automobile, the almost unanimously employed means of transportation, is usefull. Often critical. [ 07-12-2002: Message edited by: Maradön² ]
Besides, in places like California where there's actual traffic, a measure of time is much more meaningful than saying that you're "60 miles away from Granada Hills."
the nitpickyness is strong tonight
*Head explodes.*
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This insanity brought to you by The Black Mage...:
TIME IS NONEXISTANT!*Head explodes.*
If time is nonexistant, then a) why do people measure distance in time, and b) why do people get old?
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Fighter obviously shouldn't have said:
Y'know what I don't get? Expressions of distance in time.Distance and time are two completely different things, only being related when it comes to speed (Distance divided by time).
Time is measured in years, months, weeks, days, hours, minutes, and seconds.
Distance is measured in kilometres/miles, metres/yards, centimetres/inches.
WHY DO PEOPLE MIX THE TWO UP?!
Saying you're x kilometres away from Toronto is correct. Saying you're x minutes away from it isn't.
Just felt like ranting.
Ummm, distances are measured in hours/minutes/seconds. ever heard of a degree of arc? at the equator, there are 50 minutes in a degree of arc, and each minute is exactly one nautical mile. The two are synonimous, 1 mile=1 minute of arc at the equator, and a mile is a measurement of distance. A minute is also a defined distance.
you were wrong.
No, Really. Bite me.
quote:Tell you what, you define to me what, 'Time' means, and prove it exists.
And I was all like 'Oh yeah?' and Fighter was all like:
If time is nonexistant, then a) why do people measure distance in time, and b) why do people get old?
[ 07-12-2002: Message edited by: The Black Mage... ]
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The_Mac had this to say about Pirotess:
Ummm, distances are measured in hours/minutes/seconds. ever heard of a degree of arc? at the equator, there are 50 minutes in a degree of arc, and each minute is exactly one nautical mile. The two are synonimous, 1 mile=1 minute of arc at the equator, and a mile is a measurement of distance. A minute is also a defined distance.you were wrong.
It's only defined for Earth in that sense, though, so its relativeness makes it a poor candidate for use in distance.
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We were all impressed when Fighter wrote:
If time is nonexistant, then a) why do people measure distance in time, and b) why do people get old?
a, it makes it seem faster, and b) cause of melcilar break down, toxins and genes.
If we didn't have feet or inches (or centimeters or meters), we'd still have distance.
And people do grow old because of those things, as they happen over TIME...
Argh... I hate armchair physicists...
*smacks Daemon*
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A sleep deprived Mr. Barrimas stammered:
It's only defined for Earth in that sense, though, so its relativeness makes it a poor candidate for use in distance.
well, every other method of measurement i know of is based off of the earth/natural phenomena, so why not have this as well (with the exception of pascals, i forget how they relate...)
No, Really. Bite me.
Entropy and creation, essentially.
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The_Mac impressed everyone with:
well, every other method of measurement i know of is based off of the earth/natural phenomena, so why not have this as well (with the exception of pascals, i forget how they relate...)
You just missed my point. A mile is a mile no matter where you are. It's always 5,280 feet. A minute varies based on what planet (if any) you are on. A minute on Jupiter is a great deal larger than a minute on Earth.
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Lashanna enlisted the help of an infinite number of monkeys to write:
Maradon, I'm fairly certain that made a whole lot less sense than you think it did.
It made sense to me. Time is somewhat of a linear approach to something that happens everywhere. You put everything on one scale of time when it really doesn't belong on something like that.
In other words, putting everything on a timeline is just to make it easier to understand. [ 07-12-2002: Message edited by: Mr. Barrimas ]
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How.... Lashanna.... uughhhhhh:
...You all are dumb... Time exists, if we didn't have minutes and seconds, there would still be time...If we didn't have feet or inches (or centimeters or meters), we'd still have distance.
And people do grow old because of those things, as they happen over TIME...
Argh... I hate armchair physicists...
*smacks Daemon*
i never said that i agreed that time didnt exhist, i was just anwser his question
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So quoth Lashanna:
Maradon, I'm fairly certain that made a whole lot less sense than you think it did.
Only if you don't know anything about the four base forces of the universe 
And if you give me a timeline, I shall drive out to your Sam's club tomorrow and beat you with a stick.
Think about this for a while:
I always lie. In fact, I'm lying right now.
with any luck his head will explode
ben(at)netmastering(dot)nl
Therefore, it's only natural that we gauge things by time rather than distance. I can walk a mile in X minutes, but I can run it in Y, and get there on my bike in Z. Same distance, different speeds. Speed is, in fact, simple a measure of how long it takes to get somewhere.
How far? twenty minutes. How long to get here? twenty minutes. Distance in miles between normal human thinking and Fighter's thinking? Infinite.
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