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Topic: How many of you are homophobic?
Ozimander
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posted 01-20-2002 08:33:52 PM
Be honest.

Ozius

Azrael Heavenblade
Damn Dirty Godmoder
posted 01-20-2002 08:36:09 PM
No problem with them as person/group, but I do greatly fear people who take an unwholesome interest in drawing/observing them ie yaoi(shudder).
"The basic tool for manipulation of reality is the manipulation of words. If you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them." - Philip K. Dick
Kameks
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posted 01-20-2002 08:37:09 PM
Gay = evil.
People who try to commit suicide should be dragged out into the street and shot. Heck they wont complain this what they wanted :)

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Il Buono
You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend.
posted 01-20-2002 08:37:20 PM
I'm slightly homophobic. Mainly from past experiences. Had a gay guy hit on me once. That was disturbing.
"Those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig."
Akiraiu Zenko
Is actually a giddy schoolgirl
posted 01-20-2002 08:37:44 PM
I think it's safe to say that I'm not.
The artist formerly known as Zephyer Kyuukaze.
Tristan
Vidi, vici, veni.
Nae's Stooge
posted 01-20-2002 08:38:52 PM
I'm not.

Want proof? My best frend is gay

Veni, vidi, vici
Ozimander
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posted 01-20-2002 08:40:06 PM
Maybe I should explain myself:

I am not gay. I am however very flamboyant(sp?) at times. This has caused me to be accused of being gay. Oh well.

I am also very open about Gay Rights. Oh well. I find homophobic people repulsive. Unless they have a just reason, I find it very rude. Some of you are great friends with me. What if I happened to be gay? Would that change your stance on how you viewed me as another human being?

I could continue to rant but, I am tired.

Just my two cents.

Ozius

Kameks
BANNED
posted 01-20-2002 08:40:58 PM
quote:
Ozimander J. Griswald wrote, obviously thinking too hard:
Maybe I should explain myself:

I am not gay. I am however very flamboyant(sp?) at times. This has caused me to be accused of being gay. Oh well.

I am also very open about Gay Rights. Oh well. I find homophobic people repulsive. Unless they have a just reason, I find it very rude. Some of you are great friends with me. What if I happened to be gay? Would that change your stance on how you viewed me as another human being?

I could continue to rant but, I am tired.

Just my two cents.

Ozius


GAAAAAAAAYYYYYY!

People who try to commit suicide should be dragged out into the street and shot. Heck they wont complain this what they wanted :)

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Ozimander
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posted 01-20-2002 08:41:41 PM
quote:
Demitri had this to say about Pirotess:
I'm slightly homophobic. Mainly from past experiences. Had a gay guy hit on me once. That was disturbing.

Same here. He had his best friend tell me, then he rubbed up against me. I don't talk to him much anymore. But neither do I to his friends whom I did alot. Why?

They are two grades below me. I rarely see them.

Ozius

Motiak
Pancake
posted 01-20-2002 08:42:08 PM
I don't think being gay is right but if the person is gay there's not reason to act differently towards them.
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Lyinar Ka`Bael
Are you looking at my pine tree again?
posted 01-20-2002 08:42:18 PM
I'm not homophobic

But I don't like being attacked in my own channel, either


Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin

Ozimander
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posted 01-20-2002 08:42:19 PM
quote:
Kameks had this to say about pies:
GAAAAAAAAYYYYYY!

Thanks Francis

Ozius

Trillee
I <3 My Deviant
posted 01-20-2002 08:42:21 PM
not at all =) In fact I like hanging out with Gay men more then straight men.
Solstyce
Vampiric pixie that might eat your face, if you're lucky
posted 01-20-2002 08:42:48 PM
Do what you want, think what you want, but prevent not others in doing the same.

I don't care if you're homophobic or not but the second you try to tell people their lifestyle's wrong or evil or whatever you've earned yourself a smack.

Shhh. Everyone will hear us. Everyone will know.
Ozimander
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posted 01-20-2002 08:43:43 PM
quote:
Lyinar had this to say about dark elf butts:
I'm not homophobic

But I don't like being attacked in my own channel, either


I was under the impression that Detyh and Batty had some rather negative comments to make towards homosexuals. If they would like to defend themselves and clear up what small interaction happened in IRC, I will apologize.

Ozius

Lyinar Ka`Bael
Are you looking at my pine tree again?
posted 01-20-2002 08:45:14 PM
I was under the impression they didn't say a damn thing, you just blew what *was* said out of proportion


Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin

Kegwen
Sonyfag
posted 01-20-2002 08:46:45 PM
quote:
Ozimander J. Griswald had this to say about (_|_):
I find homophobic people repulsive. Unless they have a just reason, I find it very rude. Some of you are great friends with me. What if I happened to be gay? Would that change your stance on how you viewed me as another human being?


Of course not, and I should hope that all my friends would do the same for me.

I agree completely with Oz here.

[ 01-20-2002: Message edited by: Kegwen Tabibito ]

Ozimander
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posted 01-20-2002 08:48:16 PM
quote:
We were all impressed when Lyinar wrote:
I was under the impression they didn't say a damn thing, you just blew what *was* said out of proportion

Maybe I did. I just read between the lines, probably incorrectly. Then again, to error is human. Not like you haven't made a mistake. If they would like to tell me via the boards, PM, AIM, e-mail, IRC, phone, mail, coming to my door, etc. that i was wrong and tell me what they meant, I will say I am sorry and mean it. Until then, I found what they said to be on the borderline of wanting to make an offensive remark.

Ozius

Lyinar Ka`Bael
Are you looking at my pine tree again?
posted 01-20-2002 08:54:10 PM
They might have wanted to make a joke over the teacher/you thing, but not because they're homophobic.

You're insane if you try to accuse Batty of all people of that


Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin

KaLourin
Illanae's Stooge!
posted 01-20-2002 08:55:32 PM
No homophobia here.
Dont make me slap you so hard your bucket spins around, and around,and stops sideways,thus confusing you, and making you run about London wearing your bucket, a g-string, and carrying a stick,smacking the ground while yelling "MAGICALLY DELICIOUS! MAGICALLY FUCKING DELICIOUS!"- {Tal} to Mortious
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This beer drops trou and fucks your mouth with pure hoppy goodness. - Karnaj
Ozimander
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posted 01-20-2002 08:57:47 PM
quote:
Lyinar wrote this then went back to looking for porn:
They might have wanted to make a joke over the teacher/you thing, but not because they're homophobic.

You're insane if you try to accuse Batty of all people of that


Unfortunatly, I do not know Batty very well.

I don't wish to fall out of grace with anyone. It's 12:00 here, I've been studying for exams (nervous about them) and am having troubles with someone, not to mention a few other family related issue. I was (with reason) in the mental swing of things to get angry quickly. So I jumped to conclusions. If they could still please clarify themselves I'd feel alot better. Sorry for jumping on the offensive.

Ozius

Ozimander
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posted 01-20-2002 08:58:34 PM
quote:
KaLourin DthBlayde had this to say about Matthew Broderick:
No homophobia here.

However your sig pic scares me. Change it.

Ozius

Kameks
BANNED
posted 01-20-2002 08:59:35 PM
Gay guys are just a pain in the ass.
People who try to commit suicide should be dragged out into the street and shot. Heck they wont complain this what they wanted :)

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Woody
Toast the Destroyer
posted 01-20-2002 09:01:00 PM
Mans only true gifts are tolerance, knowledge, adaptability, the ability to choose, and opposable thumbs.

Choosing what seems right in your heart is the only way to be honest with yourself. It is not my right to judge or condemn another person for his/her decisions. Love is a hard thing to find. If a person prefers to seek love within someone of the same sex, then so be it. I say, more power to them.

Tolerance, acceptance, and respecting a persons RIGHT to choose. I am not homophobic.

<< awaits the flames of the ignorant and narrow minded >>

Edit: typo

[ 01-20-2002: Message edited by: Woody ]

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Maradon!
posted 01-20-2002 09:01:57 PM
I'm not homophobic.

I don't criticize homosexuals collectively, but there are a few homosexuals that I criticize on an individual level.

Many people automatically brand me a homophobe because of this, but that's really not the case at all.

[ 01-20-2002: Message edited by: Maradön? ]

Ozimander
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posted 01-20-2002 09:02:31 PM
quote:
We were all impressed when Woody wrote:
Mans only true gifts are tolerance, knowledge, adaptability, the ability to choice, and opposable thumbs.

Choosing what seems right in your heart is the only way to be honest with yourself. It is not my right to judge or condemn another person for his/her decisions. Love is a hard thing to find. If a person prefers to seek love within someone of the same sex, then so be it. I say, more power to them.

Tolerance, acceptance, and respecting a persons RIGHT to choose. I am not homophobic.

<< awaits the flames of the ignorant and narrow minded >>



The podium you stand upon has raised quite a few feet in my mind, Woody.

Ozius

Drakkenmaw
Crunchy, tastes good with ketchup
posted 01-20-2002 09:02:53 PM
One of my better friends from last year was mostly lesbian (she said she'd consider sleeping with a guy "if he looked like a girl"). I'd say this shows something of my opinion. I really don't care whether someone is straight or gay, so long as they don't do stupid things.

For instance, one thing that sorta bothered me about this person was that for about a month she decided it was her quest to make everyone realize they were gay. Think about how many people consider homosexuality something to be "fixed," and then tell me whether or not that just sounds dumb. You don't combat blind opposition to your viewpoint by blind opposition to the viewpoint of those against you. Doesn't work.

So, I'm fine with people's lifestyles as long as they don't consider them a gift to be given to everyone. That works both ways.

Oh god, and don't ask how she tried to "convince" people. It just ain't right.

Ozimander
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posted 01-20-2002 09:03:50 PM
quote:
Maradön? wrote, obviously thinking too hard:

I don't criticize homosexuals collectively, but there are a few homosexuals that I criticize on an individual level.



I find that a funny comment, could you explain?

Ozius

Kegwen
Sonyfag
posted 01-20-2002 09:06:27 PM
You're right, Oz. Sorry.

[ 01-20-2002: Message edited by: Kegwen Tabibito ]

Ozimander
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posted 01-20-2002 09:08:36 PM
No Kegwen, Parc is Asshead and to him, it's not a rude title. Let us not ruin it by putting it on Kameks.

Ozius

Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael
I posted in a title changing thread.
posted 01-20-2002 09:09:10 PM
Okay Oz...you want me to defend myself? Why don't you tell them the entire scenario? Or I can do it for you.

Oz's teacher told him tonight, apparently, that he's a homosexual. They'd been palling around and it came up.

Now then...it's not a matter of the homosexuality issue making me think of a wiseass comment.

If Ozius were a girl, same teen age Ozius is, and came in to say "Gee I was hanging out with my teacher and he confided in me that he has certain sexual needs..." I would have reacted the same way.

TEACHERS ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BROACH THE TOPIC OF THEIR OWN SEXUALITY WITH STUDENTS. You can get fired for that shit. That's like one of the first things they tell you when you study to be a teacher. If you encounter a student with homosexual feelings, heterosexual feelings, feelings for their dog, whatever...you can counsel them, and try to help them make an intelligent, rational, and informed choice about their feelings. Teachers are supposed to fit in something a hazy area. Their personal/private lives are not to be mixed with their professional lives. Yeesh.

Is it earth shattering? No. But it's wonky enough that it's that weird, possibly uncomfortable sort of "Family Guy" type humor.

I have several homosexual friends who I think the world of, some not even a part of this community. I've known people much weirder to me than homosexuals and I'm still their friend. And I feel very insulted by you, Frank, that I have to defend my position with such cliched comments in light of your accusations.

Grow up. Grow the hell up.

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"All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die. -Roy Batty
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Kegwen
Sonyfag
posted 01-20-2002 09:14:31 PM
quote:
Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael had this to say about dark elf butts:
TEACHERS ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BROACH THE TOPIC OF THEIR OWN SEXUALITY WITH STUDENTS. You can get fired for that shit. That's like one of the first things they tell you when you study to be a teacher. If you encounter a student with homosexual feelings, heterosexual feelings, feelings for their dog, whatever...you can counsel them, and try to help them make an intelligent, rational, and informed choice about their feelings. Teachers are supposed to fit in something a hazy area. Their personal/private lives are not to be mixed with their professional lives. Yeesh.

Correction: public school teachers ain't supposed to talk to their kids about their personal lives because public schools are into the "IF WE OFFEND SOMEBODY THE WORLD WILL END" mentality. I don't subscribe to that shit and thankfully my parents are willling and able to shell out the cash to put me in a private school...

This post had no point. Carry on.

Ozimander
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posted 01-20-2002 09:15:22 PM
quote:
Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael had this to say about Jimmy Carter:
*snipped out the entire thing, just to save space, no offense*

Yes, I probably should have thought out my actions. I did however feel insulted that I didn't recieve an answer after some while of waiting. I just didn't find the topic something that could be made into a joke. I'm not saying that despite it all, I was right, but I am saying that:

#1 Off the bat, sorry for having insulted you

#2 I just wanted it clarified, since I left IRC and had found the comment a little bit aggrivating

Ozius

Batty
Doesn't Like You. Specifically you.
posted 01-20-2002 09:17:24 PM
If you get back into IRC, I will explain EXACTLY why I am not one to be pulling that shit on.
Ezvien
Owes Drysart $40
posted 01-20-2002 09:17:57 PM
Does it matter is someone is gay/lesbian? I think not.
*lurk*
Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael
I posted in a title changing thread.
posted 01-20-2002 09:18:38 PM
I play in other channels and am thus slow to respond
Lyinar's sweetie and don't you forget it!*
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OtakuPenguin
Peels like a tangerine, but is juicy like an orange.
posted 01-20-2002 09:20:43 PM
I don't give a damn if you're gay or not. It doesn't matter to me *shrugs* I never thought it was such a big deal anyhow, and I'm with Oz and Keg on this one, anyone who has a problem with gays is a moron in my opinion, because they have no reason to have a problem.

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Ozimander
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posted 01-20-2002 09:21:52 PM
Right. So, before this thread becomes a flame war, let's recap!

Oz: Not been so happy, in the past week and a half, didn't get response soon enough and got offended, didn't mean to insult Deth or Bat

Deth: Didn't mean to offend Oz, was just a little slow, meant it in good humour

Bat: Was on a Fear Raid, has his reasons

In summary: I'm sorry, your sorry, we're all sorry. None of us were out to insult or offend the other.

Ozius

Palador ChibiDragon
Dismembered
posted 01-20-2002 09:22:56 PM
quote:
We were all impressed when Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael wrote:
Oz's teacher told him tonight, apparently, that he's a homosexual. They'd been palling around and it came up.

Now then...it's not a matter of the homosexuality issue making me think of a wiseass comment.

If Ozius were a girl, same teen age Ozius is, and came in to say "Gee I was hanging out with my teacher and he confided in me that he has certain sexual needs..." I would have reacted the same way.

TEACHERS ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BROACH THE TOPIC OF THEIR OWN SEXUALITY WITH STUDENTS. You can get fired for that shit. That's like one of the first things they tell you when you study to be a teacher. If you encounter a student with homosexual feelings, heterosexual feelings, feelings for their dog, whatever...you can counsel them, and try to help them make an intelligent, rational, and informed choice about their feelings. Teachers are supposed to fit in something a hazy area. Their personal/private lives are not to be mixed with their professional lives. Yeesh.


While I don't know all the details, I think I may have another way of looking at this. Earlier, Oz said:

quote:
I am not gay. I am however very flamboyant(sp?) at times. This has caused me to be accused of being gay. Oh well.

Given that, is it possible that the teacher thought Oz needed someone to talk to, someone that understands what it means to be gay? Might this be nothing more than a clumsy attempt to give the allowed counseling they are supposed to give (even if it wasn't really needed)?
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Kegwen
Sonyfag
posted 01-20-2002 09:23:00 PM
quote:
Ozimander J. Griswald had this to say about dark elf butts:
Right. So, before this thread becomes a flame war, let's recap!

Oz: Not been so happy, in the past week and a half, didn't get response soon enough and got offended, didn't mean to insult Deth or Bat

Deth: Didn't mean to offend Oz, was just a little slow, meant it in good humour

Bat: Was on a Fear Raid, has his reasons

In summary: I'm sorry, your sorry, we're all sorry. None of us were out to insult or offend the other.

Ozius


Amen. Let's continue with the original intent of this thread.

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