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Dear Taxpayer:We are pleased to inform you that the United States Congress passed and President George W. Bush signed into law the Economic Growth and Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2001, which provides long-term tax relief for all Americans who pay income taxes.
The new tax law provides immediate tax relief in 2001 and long-term tax relief for the years to come.
As part of the immediate tax relief, you will be receiving a check in the amount of $300.00 during the week of 9/10/2001.
Your amount is based on information you submitted on your 2000 federal tax return and is just the first installment of the long-term tax relief provided by the new law. The amount of the check could be reduced by any outstanding federal debt you owe, such as past due child support or federal or state income taxes. You need to take no additional steps. Your check will be mailed to you. You will not be required to report the amount as taxable income on your federal tax return.
On the reverse side of this letter is information on how your check amount was calculated. If you need additional information, please visit the IRS web site at www.irs.gov or call 1-800-829-4477. Please keep a copy of this notice with your tax records.
Excuse me while I look a gift horse in the mouth but was this letter really necessary? Is it anything more than Dubya positioning himself as the "bringer of tax relief" to the American people?
It's crap like this that gets me pissed off. "President George W. Bush" isn't the reason for the tax relief, it's the fact that the Clinton administration balanced the budget.
I wonder if a similar letter will be sent out next year when the economy is in the tank and taxes will be raised to compensate?
I was on Gore's side.
So, instead;
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Dang, where did those funny Dubya pics go?
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Or maybe!!! just lower all taxes and let poor people get jobs working instead of government hand-outs. I have yet to meet a person on foodstamps/goverment handouts that wasnt a fraud.
I paid taxes, yes.
I didnt live with my parents, yet they claimed me as a dependent.
I get $0.00 how wonderful. my parents gave me nothing during the year, yet they get to claim me as a dependent? F that! I am NOT dependent on them!
F the government.
Likewise...not EVERYONE is getting 300 bucks. My mom isn't. And it's not because of unpaid taxes, loans, etc. Least that's what her letter said.
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am I the only one who watches the news? They said they were going to send out letters like...months ago it seems.
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Dear Treehugger:We are pleased to inform you that the United States Congress passed and President George W. Bush signed into law the Environmental Growth and Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2002, which provides long-term tax relief for all Americans who live in rainforests or wildlife preserves.
The new tax law provides immediate tax relief in 2002 and long-term tax relief for the years to come.
As part of the immediate tax relief, you will be receiving a check in the amount of $0.01 during the week of 4/14/2007.
Your amount is based on information you submitted on your 2001 federal tax return and is just the first installment of the long-term tax relief provided by the new law. The amount of the check could be reduced if you are an illegal immigrant, or do not live in a rainforest or national wildlife reserve year round. You need to take no additional steps. Your check will be mailed to you. You will not be required to report the amount as taxable income on your federal tax return.
On the reverse side of this letter is information on how your check amount was calculated. If you need additional information, please visit the FWS web site at www.fws.gov or call 1-800-829-4477. Please keep a copy of this notice with your tax records.
Personally, I was claimed as a dependent. They don't pay for my college, but they do take the time to file the tax forms, which I've generally been too busy for around that time. And since I was on my father's health insurance, it was just as well. So no tax refund for me. Not like I care. I see this as an opportunity to laugh at all the really stupid things GW does.
At least he was honest about one thing. He told the US people during his campaign that he was stupid, and it was the truth. Unfortunately, surrounding himself with
quote:doesn't really accomplish much.
Actual GWBush Campaign Promise:
people who are smarter than I am
Clinton would have destroyed this Nation given half a chance and so would Gore. ANd neither of them would have even thought about a Tax cut.
Maybe that's why the election came down to such stupidity. It was an omen of things to come.
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Originally posted by Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael:
Fala, if you filed as an independent, then technically they committed tax fraud hehehe. Comes down to how much $300 matters to ya.Likewise...not EVERYONE is getting 300 bucks. My mom isn't. And it's not because of unpaid taxes, loans, etc. Least that's what her letter said.
Wouldn't Fala have to File as a dependent becuse the IRS would check the perents tax return agenist Fala..
The same ting happend to me, My mom Claimed me(When my parents deviorced my dad claims my little bro, my mom claims me) as a dependent, Even though I am supposed to be independent becuse she had me Emanceipated early in the year so whe wouldn't have to pay my dad child support, srewing me out of 1000 that would have been my tax return
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Originally posted by Drysart:
It's crap like this that gets me pissed off. "President George W. Bush" isn't the reason for the tax relief, it's the fact that the Clinton administration balanced the budget.
Actually, if Gore were in office now, all of that surplus (read: money Clinton took from you that he didn't need to) would still be in the government letting them do things like pay $600 for toilet seats and order his staff to damage the white house some more (Clinton's staff did more than $6000 in damage to the white house before leaving for the last time. Things like hammering the W keys out of office keyboards, spraypainting walls, and urinating on furniture. But you didn't know that, did you?)
Oh, and here's a neat little fact for ya, does anyone know the last president to propose such large tax cuts was?
JFK. A democrat. Only he proposed a larger tax cut that was implimented immediatly instead of over ten years.
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Clinton would have destroyed this Nation given half a chance
Oh please. Can you be anymore dramatic?
Clinton had 8 years and in the end the country was doing better then when he had first moved in. Unemployement was at an alltime low, and we were in the black for once.
Speaking as someone who votes for both parties, I have nothing against republicans, just Bush Jr in particular. The man is a dumbass...all I can say is I hope his advisor's know what they are doing.
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(Clinton's staff did more than $6000 in damage to the white house before leaving for the last time. Things like hammering the W keys out of office keyboards, spraypainting walls, and urinating on furniture. But you didn't know that, did you?)
You DO realize that every administraton does that right? George Bush Senior did over 15,000 dollars of damage before leaving :P
I'll never undstand why people pick on Clinton specifically for stuff that every past president has done. THIS IS NOT SOMETHING NEW 
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Originally posted by Reynar:
...and we were in the black for once.Speaking as someone who votes for both parties, I have nothing against republicans, just Bush Jr in particular. The man is a dumbass...all I can say is I hope his advisor's know what they are doing.
You mean the government was in the black. The government is not a business, they are not there to make money, that's what Industry is for. They are there to govern. If they're in the black, it's because they overcharged.
Clinton's regime was also, incidentally, spending more than it ever has in it's entire history, and most decidedly accomplishing less. In other words, there was a whoooole lotta money going somewhere. Who knows where!
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Originally posted by Reynar:
You DO realize that every administraton does that right? George Bush Senior did over 15,000 dollars of damage before leaving
I'd like to see some evidence of that...because everyone I've ever spoken to - democrats included - talk about it like it is indeed something new.
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I'd like to see some evidence of that...because everyone I've ever spoken to - democrats included - talk about it like it is indeed something new.
Grab a good history book that details presidents terms of office 
Ever read about how everytime a present used to leave they had to replace most of the artwork / furniture in the whitehouse?
That was pre 1900's though. They kinda started to crack down on the blatant stealing
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Clinton's regime was also, incidentally, spending more than it ever has in it's entire history, and most decidedly accomplishing less. In other words, there was a whoooole lotta money going somewhere. Who knows where!
The Regan administration was notorious for blowing insane amounts of cash. Some people praise his administration is great. And some say it was the worst blunder in the world.
Interesting how people's views of how a president served his term varies on such a scale.
Bush and gore wer both morons
quote:GAH! Mog said something truly intelligent! Run for your lives!
Originally posted by mog:
NADERBush and gore wer both morons
The fact of the matter is, Bush signed the bill that is giving back some of the surplus to the people, Clinton *had* the surplus and did fucking jack shit with it. No I dont think he had to slap his name on there, but still.
Oh and.... HAHAHA! I am getting my moneys before j00 Drysart!!!
I don't expect much from any president of the states. The only real differnce in my eyes is that Bush is going to
1: Screw over the enviroment further
2: Screw over the poor further
3: Pat his industrial buddies on the back
Who knows, maybe Gore would have done the same. Not like you can't rely on the human race to think of anything other than their own wallets for this week.
At the end of Carter's term inflation AND unemployment were at all time highs. If you've ever taken a simple economics class you'd know that two are intertwined, and that governments lower one only by raising the other.
"Reaganomics", aka supply side economics, was something that had never been tried, and despite everyone's theories about how horrible it would be, Reagan had to do something about the economy or we would have been in a serious recession. Lo and behold, it worked.
Reagan, like JFK, and now Bush Jr, gave this country some of the biggest tax cuts. Why? Again, simple economics. The Laffer Curve, a simple concept, states that if you keep raising taxes, you get a LOWER return.
Under Reagan the national revenue doubled, from $450 trillion to $900 trillion. Under Clinton the change was far less. During Reagan's 8 years the national debt grew by $1 trillion, Clinton did that in his first 4 years.
The president isn't the only one that has an effect on the economy during their term, both houses of Congress have as much effect as the president, especially if one party has a majority. But the President does have the last say with his Veto, unless Congress has a 2/3rds majority override him.
Does no one recall the Republican controlled congress with their "Contract with America" ? Does no one recall all the laws they tried to get through, completing every step they set out to do, including a balanced budget? Does no one recall the President vetoing over half of them?
Instead of worrying about stereotypes and theories, I look at how I am PERSONALLY affected.
Under Clinton, I got to keep far less of MY money that I worked to earn than I did under Reagan. Under Clinton the US Military budget was cut so badly that our pilots couldn't get in the flight time they needed and this caused deterioration in their skills and cost MORE money in lost planes than it would have cost to pay for the proper flight time.
And how dare the Government give us back OUR money anyway!!
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Originally posted by Reynar:
Oh please. Can you be anymore dramatic?Clinton had 8 years and in the end the country was doing better then when he had first moved in. Unemployement was at an alltime low, and we were in the black for once.
Speaking as someone who votes for both parties, I have nothing against republicans, just Bush Jr in particular. The man is a dumbass...all I can say is I hope his advisor's know what they are doing.
I will point out that the Clinton Administration is directly responsible for more American Deaths than most others combine. Personal Freedoms took more blows than ever before and Clinton was more than willing to seel us out to the UN.
Personally I think Clinton, Reno and a good portion of the Old Administration should be put on trial for Treason and executed when found guilty.
Lets not Forget Waco and Ruby Ridge along with others. Those were all sanctioned by Clinton.
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Originally posted by Za'Yth:
*shrug*I don't expect much from any president of the states. The only real differnce in my eyes is that Bush is going to
1: Screw over the enviroment further
2: Screw over the poor further
3: Pat his industrial buddies on the backWho knows, maybe Gore would have done the same. Not like you can't rely on the human race to think of anything other than their own wallets for this week.
1: Don't Buy into that Enviromental Bullshit that Greenpeace and the others try to feed you. You have a Choice. You can go back to the stone age or you can move forward while protecting the land. Bush will move forward, Gore would have taken us backwards. Lets not forget that Gore is the one who stated that cutting down a tree to save a Human life is not worth it. So let me choose. My mother who is dying of cancer or a Tree. Sorry but get me an Axe, the tree is gone.
2: Why the hell is it the goverments Business if you are poor or Rich. Bush just passed a Tax cut that will help the Poor as much as anyone else. But even that being said it is not the place of the goverment to help the poor or anyone else for that matter. The liberals may have you believe differently but it isn't the case. If you are poor. Well Tough shit. I do not want my Tax money going ot help you. I want you to earn your money just like I do and survive off of it. Welfare and other such BS are an excuse for people to slack off. Now maybe not everyone who draws it is like this but frankly I don't care. Earn your keep. DOn't expect the Goverment to help.
3: And your point? Industy is what keeps this nation going. As long as it does not screw other peopole over (which all the people bitching have failed to show it will) then what is your point?
All these people saying Bush is a moron have failed to show how. IN Texas the budget is done so well that Taxes are LOW and the sales Tax is gone. The school system suggers because of illegal imigrants having kids and refusing to even teach them english. (I say give the border patrol Shoot to kill orders) If you come into this country illegally then you are an invader. That means you are a threat. That means that you are dead. Liberal whining and bleeding heart mentality will only make things worse. People ask why I hate Democrats. Well I don't. I do hate liberals who think the goverment should make emotions a law. THat everyone should give part of what they have for everyone else. I have news for you. Liberals are just Communist with a bit more luster to thier finish and a new name. Gore is a Liberal. He appeals to emotion instead of common sense. He would have have finished off what Clinton started. And you would have a war on your hands..
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Originally posted by Mortious Shadowstalker:
Yeah, lets cut down as many trees as we can! It's not like they're doing anything useful, like producing oxygen for the planet and cleaning up carbon dioxide, right?
Um... they do more than that yo...
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I will point out that the Clinton Administration is directly responsible for more American Deaths than most others combine.
I guess we will just overlook Abraham Lincolns Administrator then
And for that matter any administration that was present during a war. But I foregot, things only apply to 'Clinton' now, silly me
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IN Texas the budget is done so well that Taxes are LOW and the sales Tax is gone.
You know where Texas's money is coming from right? They have been selling power to california for years. Why do you think Bush wont do anything to help with the power issues there? Because Texas is cleaning up on the deal.
Nothing against Texas mind you I have many friends there
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So let me choose. My mother who is dying of cancer or a Tree. Sorry but get me an Axe, the tree is gone.
Yea, no one really needs tree's anyways. We need more people dying of cancer, they will contibute far more to the rest of us then any stoopid tree :P
(fyi, not a member of greenpeace, just found your unfounded generalization humorous)
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(I say give the border patrol Shoot to kill orders) If you come into this country illegally then you are an invader.
Based on that comment, it is obvious you have no sense of what this country is and what principles it was founded on. Maybe you should retake history 101 again?
Damn sometimes it bothers me knowing while I was enlisted that I was actually protecting people who think immigrants should be shot.
Yeesshh...
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quote:I think Azizza should run for office. That way we'd get to find out all this nifty stuff about his past that he'd never want anyone to know, people would exaggerate any little thing he did wrong, and he'd still earn more than any of the rest of us.
Originally posted by Azizza:
Actual content omitted.
My former roommate thinks like you, Az. He works for Microsoft now. His parents own a $5,000,000 apartment building in NYC, he lives in the subburbs (sp?) in a $500k house, and thinks he's standard middle class. And he doesn't quite understand why the people around him don't buy a new top-of-the-line computer every year like he does. But for the most part he's a nice guy. Just don't discuss politics with him, because he sounds exactly like you Azizza!
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Originally posted by Pesco:
Um... they do more than that yo...
I know, I was being sarcastic
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Originally posted by Mortious Shadowstalker:
I know, I was being sarcastic
I know
But the thread needed a BUMP!
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Originally posted by Ford Prefect:
I think Azizza should run for office. That way we'd get to find out all this nifty stuff about his past that he'd never want anyone to know, people would exaggerate any little thing he did wrong, and he'd still earn more than any of the rest of us.My former roommate thinks like you, Az. He works for Microsoft now. His parents own a $5,000,000 apartment building in NYC, he lives in the subburbs (sp?) in a $500k house, and thinks he's standard middle class. And he doesn't quite understand why the people around him don't buy a new top-of-the-line computer every year like he does. But for the most part he's a nice guy. Just don't discuss politics with him, because he sounds exactly like you Azizza![/QB]
I have a friend just like that save he's not all that rich. And he sounds like a jackass most of the time. But besides that he has his shit down pat.
