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Topic: CHRONO TRIGGER SUCKS!!!!
Aaron (the good one)
posted 06-20-2001 05:09:00 PM
Densetsu, you still read the boards?
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Steven Steve
posted 06-20-2001 05:10:00 PM
STOW THAT GAB RIGHT NOW MISTER! THE CHARACTERS IN IT WERE DESIGNED BY AKIRA TORIYAMA, ARTISTIC GENIUS AND CREATOR OF DRAGONBALL Z!!
"Absolutely NOTHING [will stop me from buying Diablo III]. I will buy it regardless of what they do."
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"Don't want to sound like a fanboy, but I am with you. I'll buy it for sure, it's just a matter of for how long I will be playing it..."
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Mog
not really a mmembe rof tis boered
posted 06-20-2001 05:48:00 PM
CHRONO TRIGGER IS THE SECOND BEST RPG EVER AND ALOT BETTER THAN DBZ

Regret calamities if you can thereby help the sufferer; if not, attend to your own work and allready the evil begins to be repaired
- Self Rreliance
Talonus
Loner
posted 06-20-2001 06:05:00 PM
*kills deli*
Chrono Trigger>all.
*kills Faz*
DBZ<all.

That is all.

Steven Steve
posted 06-20-2001 06:07:00 PM
moron
"Absolutely NOTHING [will stop me from buying Diablo III]. I will buy it regardless of what they do."
- Grawbad, Battle.net forums

"Don't want to sound like a fanboy, but I am with you. I'll buy it for sure, it's just a matter of for how long I will be playing it..."
- Silvast, Battle.net forums

Talonus
Loner
posted 06-20-2001 06:10:00 PM
Thankyouverymuch.
Mog
not really a mmembe rof tis boered
posted 06-20-2001 06:12:00 PM
Tal> faz
dbz<ct

Regret calamities if you can thereby help the sufferer; if not, attend to your own work and allready the evil begins to be repaired
- Self Rreliance
Steven Steve
posted 06-20-2001 07:59:00 PM
biatch>tramp
ho<geisha
"Absolutely NOTHING [will stop me from buying Diablo III]. I will buy it regardless of what they do."
- Grawbad, Battle.net forums

"Don't want to sound like a fanboy, but I am with you. I'll buy it for sure, it's just a matter of for how long I will be playing it..."
- Silvast, Battle.net forums

Lashanna
noob
posted 06-20-2001 08:16:00 PM
<--- Dresses like a Geisha for kicks.

[ 06-20-2001: Message edited by: Lashanna ]

Dad's going to kill you. Really. He is.
Tier the Genius™
Dark Elf Pimp
posted 06-20-2001 08:31:00 PM
Quit the stupid ><><><><><> stuff already, you 2-year olds
LeMiere
posted 06-20-2001 09:04:00 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Fazumzen Fastfist:
STOW THAT GAB RIGHT NOW MISTER! THE CHARACTERS IN IT WERE DESIGNED BY AKIRA TORIYAMA, ARTISTIC GENIUS AND CREATOR OF DRAGONBALL Z!!

*ahem* I must speak up about this now.. Toriyama is the worst hack anime artist I have ever seen/heard of. He has one character set and draws nothing else. Look at Chrono's clothes, look at Tapion form movie thirteen. Same clothes. He is probably the most admired cartoonist among teenage boys in america and yet he is probably the worst anime/manga artist I have seen.
*gets off his soapbox*
Chrono trigger was good.. the concept artist was not. And Deli was using that as an attention getter if ya didn't notice..

Palador ChibiDragon
Dismembered
posted 06-20-2001 09:58:00 PM
quote:
Originally posted by LeMiere:
*ahem* I must speak up about this now.. Toriyama is the worst hack anime artist I have ever seen/heard of. He has one character set and draws nothing else. Look at Chrono's clothes, look at Tapion form movie thirteen. Same clothes. He is probably the most admired cartoonist among teenage boys in america and yet he is probably the worst anime/manga artist I have seen.
*gets off his soapbox*
Chrono trigger was good.. the concept artist was not. And Deli was using that as an attention getter if ya didn't notice..

Well, the characters for CT were good, it doesn't matter if he's used them in various forms for other things, they worked well in CT.

Did Toriyama do the characters for BoF3 as well? Just wondering, because when the main character becomes the KaiserDragon (his most powerful form), he looks just the same as allways, but with blond hair....

I believe in the existance of magic, not because I have seen proof of its existance, but because I refuse to live in a world where it does not exist.
Tier the Genius™
Dark Elf Pimp
posted 06-20-2001 10:08:00 PM
Lemmy stole the words right out of my mouth.
LeMiere
posted 06-20-2001 10:17:00 PM
quote:
Originally posted by ChibiDragon:
Well, the characters for CT were good, it doesn't matter if he's used them in various forms for other things, they worked well in CT.

Did Toriyama do the characters for BoF3 as well? Just wondering, because when the main character becomes the KaiserDragon (his most powerful form), he looks just the same as allways, but with blond hair....


The blonde hair standing on end is a common thing in anime.. Toriyama didn't do BoF.. I'm EXTREMELY sure of that.. (look at the ears)

Yes.. the CT characters were good.. but that's not due to Toriyama.
Toriyama also does Dragon Quest.. which he actually appears to have a LITTLE originality in.. *you can still see similarities.. major similarities in some cases.. like umm.. hair... check out DQ5's characters.. anyone look familiar with just different clothes? Yeah.. thought so..*

So.. Toriyama's not great.. he's had a hand in great projects.. but his art, IMO is waaay too over hyped..

Steven Steve
posted 06-20-2001 11:14:00 PM
That's right. Toriyama sucks, as does Chrono Trigger. How could I have been so foolish!?
"Absolutely NOTHING [will stop me from buying Diablo III]. I will buy it regardless of what they do."
- Grawbad, Battle.net forums

"Don't want to sound like a fanboy, but I am with you. I'll buy it for sure, it's just a matter of for how long I will be playing it..."
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King Parcelan
Chicken of the Sea
posted 06-20-2001 11:15:00 PM
I give your retort a three out of ten. One for sarcasm, and two for punctuation choice.
Steven Steve
posted 06-20-2001 11:17:00 PM
I don't understand... I wasn't being sarcastic. I know now that I was completely wrong, or at least anything in my opinion stated before this. I agree with you all now.
"Absolutely NOTHING [will stop me from buying Diablo III]. I will buy it regardless of what they do."
- Grawbad, Battle.net forums

"Don't want to sound like a fanboy, but I am with you. I'll buy it for sure, it's just a matter of for how long I will be playing it..."
- Silvast, Battle.net forums

LeMiere
posted 06-20-2001 11:44:00 PM
*sigh*.. never mind.. I can't get the damned point across with mildly logical reasoning..
Steven Steve
posted 06-20-2001 11:53:00 PM
Don't worry, I get your message. Akira Toriyama is not good at drawing, he just happens to be at the right place at the right time.
"Absolutely NOTHING [will stop me from buying Diablo III]. I will buy it regardless of what they do."
- Grawbad, Battle.net forums

"Don't want to sound like a fanboy, but I am with you. I'll buy it for sure, it's just a matter of for how long I will be playing it..."
- Silvast, Battle.net forums

LeMiere
posted 06-21-2001 12:03:00 PM
Well.. the thing is he has the talent to draw well.. he just doesn't have any sort of creativity.. and his drawing style only takes him so far. And in comparison with others in his industry he's the lowest of the low.
Redmage Darkrayver
Moron
posted 06-21-2001 04:59:00 AM
Has anyone noticed the disturbing similarities to the "Aryan Race" that Hitler was trying to make with the Super Sayjins?

Blonde Hair, Blue eyes.

I wonder where they got that?
/me pictures the makers of DBZ 'hailing' Hitler
/shudders

Palador ChibiDragon
Dismembered
posted 06-21-2001 07:24:00 AM
Nazis don't have tails and turn into giant monkeys during the full moon.

I think the eyes going blue is just to match the "bleached out" look of the blond hair.

I believe in the existance of magic, not because I have seen proof of its existance, but because I refuse to live in a world where it does not exist.
tallayan
Resident Psychopath
posted 06-21-2001 07:37:00 AM
and dont they have green eyes?
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Steven Steve
posted 06-21-2001 10:12:00 AM
Yeah they have green eyes what are you talking about? O_o
"Absolutely NOTHING [will stop me from buying Diablo III]. I will buy it regardless of what they do."
- Grawbad, Battle.net forums

"Don't want to sound like a fanboy, but I am with you. I'll buy it for sure, it's just a matter of for how long I will be playing it..."
- Silvast, Battle.net forums

Mog
not really a mmembe rof tis boered
posted 06-21-2001 01:58:00 PM
he can draw and he can kinda think of new charecters if you think hes the lowest of the low go watch tenchi or the eairle salor moon and shut the hell up

Regret calamities if you can thereby help the sufferer; if not, attend to your own work and allready the evil begins to be repaired
- Self Rreliance
Mortious
Gluttonous Overlard
posted 06-21-2001 02:22:00 PM
No comment..
DS
Perma-Newbie
posted 06-21-2001 02:28:00 PM
*BITCHSLAP!*

j00 do not insult da tenchi.

die plz k thx keke la~^^

Steven Steve
posted 06-21-2001 03:14:00 PM
Yeah I know I consider Tenchi is drawn better. Sailor Moon is kinda oonky though...
"Absolutely NOTHING [will stop me from buying Diablo III]. I will buy it regardless of what they do."
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"Don't want to sound like a fanboy, but I am with you. I'll buy it for sure, it's just a matter of for how long I will be playing it..."
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LeMiere
posted 06-21-2001 05:40:00 PM
Sailor Moon's artist can atleast draw different clothing on the characters.. and be a bit more original..
hell, look at Escaflowne's artist.. then look at another work of his.. I'm very sure he did Chrono Cross as well.. you see EXTREME differences in the clothes because the world is much different.

I coul understand if Toriyama had MADE Chrono Trigger the clothes would look similar to DBZ cuz they'd both be his creations and he may like to build off previous characters.. but.. it's not.. it's Square's masterpiece.. Toriyama's just a concept artist.

Mog
not really a mmembe rof tis boered
posted 06-21-2001 05:48:00 PM
im not defendng dbz artist person im just saying that one of the tenchi series( not sure wich one saw it a few days ago they needed miny and enterd a swimsuit contesst) and the first seson of salor moon lokked alot worse

Regret calamities if you can thereby help the sufferer; if not, attend to your own work and allready the evil begins to be repaired
- Self Rreliance
Keophex
Pancake
posted 06-21-2001 06:06:00 PM
quote:
Originally posted by mog:
im not defendng dbz artist person im just saying that one of the tenchi series( not sure wich one saw it a few days ago they needed miny and enterd a swimsuit contesst) and the first seson of salor moon lokked alot worse

Tenchi Universe I think if they were in that swimsuit competition.

Bomb the shit out of them, and make them pay for what they did 9/11/01
Lashanna
noob
posted 06-21-2001 06:57:00 PM
Um, the Tenchi artwork is really well done... ESPECIALLY the movie.... I love the move (the first one... The others were kinda... weird...)

But Tenchi is lightyears beyond DBZ... It's a lot smooth, not as grainy. They wear different clothes a lot, and their mouths move more...

Dad's going to kill you. Really. He is.
Steven Steve
posted 06-21-2001 07:08:00 PM
Mog, I, for one, am tired of this. Please use correct grammar, unless you are a chode 10 year-old retard.
"Absolutely NOTHING [will stop me from buying Diablo III]. I will buy it regardless of what they do."
- Grawbad, Battle.net forums

"Don't want to sound like a fanboy, but I am with you. I'll buy it for sure, it's just a matter of for how long I will be playing it..."
- Silvast, Battle.net forums

Mog
not really a mmembe rof tis boered
posted 06-21-2001 07:38:00 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Lashanna:
Um, the Tenchi artwork is really well done... ESPECIALLY the movie.... I love the move (the first one... The others were kinda... weird...)

But Tenchi is lightyears beyond DBZ... It's a lot smooth, not as grainy. They wear different clothes a lot, and their mouths move more...


almost evry anime movie has good animanion its the t.v. shows that sux


Regret calamities if you can thereby help the sufferer; if not, attend to your own work and allready the evil begins to be repaired
- Self Rreliance
Keophex
Pancake
posted 06-21-2001 08:53:00 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Fazumzen Fastfist:
Mog, I, for one, am tired of this. Please use correct grammar, unless you are a chode 10 year-old retard.

You calling us chode 10-year old retards stupid? HUH?! HUH?!

Bomb the shit out of them, and make them pay for what they did 9/11/01
Steven Steve
posted 06-21-2001 09:49:00 PM
Oops, wrong insult.
"Absolutely NOTHING [will stop me from buying Diablo III]. I will buy it regardless of what they do."
- Grawbad, Battle.net forums

"Don't want to sound like a fanboy, but I am with you. I'll buy it for sure, it's just a matter of for how long I will be playing it..."
- Silvast, Battle.net forums

Lashanna
noob
posted 06-22-2001 12:12:00 PM
quote:
Originally posted by mog:
almost evry anime movie has good animanion its the t.v. shows that sux

The TV show is still infinitely better Sailor Moon, DBZ, Pokemon, or the run of the mill stuff...

For one thing, Tenchi's also targetted for a higher age group...
DBZ is the kind of anime that gets a lot of viewers simply because it IS Anime... It has a very poor plot. Actually, calling it a plot is an insult to plots. It's almost always the exact same routine. That flaws it as a show... The entire fight scenes are mostly blurs, or motions on loop (Punch, Kick, Jab, Same Punch Same Kick, Same Jab, Same Punch Again, Same Kick again, Same Jab Again, etc.)

The clothing doesn't really change much, the hair gets abit redundant... (Only place in Tenchi this really occurs is between Washu and Ryoko, but Washu made Ryoko, sorta, so it's to be expected that Ryoko is in her creator's image).

The art in general is really grainy...

Art in Tenchi is a lot smoother, lot more background effects. The motions are a lot more complete, etc. etc. etc... Do you really want me to continue...?

I'm just saying, Tenchi's animation (in movie AND in the shows) is better than DBZ's...

Dad's going to kill you. Really. He is.
Super Kagrama
ROFLELFOLOL!!!11!1 YUO CAN'T RAED MY POSTSSE!@!11
posted 06-22-2001 12:13:00 PM
EVERY SINGLE battle in DBZ takes 6 entire episodes.
i shoueld joeg threw the foreast moer offeand!!11
Lashanna
noob
posted 06-22-2001 12:19:00 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Kagrama:
EVERY SINGLE battle in DBZ takes 6 entire episodes.

Ahh Yes, another good point... Tenchi can actually resolve something in one episode.

It's like the writers for DBZ are trying to add suspense... But they way overdo it... Most shows are content with a comercial break, or at the most, a two parter...
but having like 4 episodes of powering up and stuff, and 2 episodes of actual fighting is just to much...

As one of my friends put it, "DBZ? Isn't that that show with all the grunting guys who scream and fly and stuff?" That basicly breaks it down (if you insert poor humor and fireballs also, that is)

Dad's going to kill you. Really. He is.
Kekvit Irae
Pancake
posted 06-22-2001 12:22:00 PM
DBZ: 5% action, 95% standing around staring and grunting at each other.
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