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Topic: Arguing on the internet made me a better person
Maradon!
posted 02-02-2012 11:12:14 PM
So I finished reading The Greatest Show on Earth, a book on evolution by the nefarious Dawkins, and I was in the mood for a new science book to read (I am open to suggestions, by the way) when something odd occurred to me.

I really enjoy learning, just for the sake of learning, but I wasn't always that way. There was a time when I didn't give a shit about anything except running around and playing video games. Oh, I always had an interest in the way things worked, astronomy and biology in particular, but when my parents bought me a telescope for my birthday I was as likely to break it pretending it was a bazooka than actually use it to look at stars. I never felt the need to learn, only an idle interest in it.

The turning point, I think, was when I started arguing on the internet. It made me realize how important it was to be right about things, and to correct my views when I was wrong.

Mortious
Gluttonous Overlard
posted 02-03-2012 02:53:42 AM
Me too, but on the flipside it also made me jaded and paranoid.
Vallo, the Second Coming
Pancake
posted 02-03-2012 08:05:05 AM
To an extent, I rather agree.

On a related note, I recommend Godel, Escher, Bach.

Edit: Technically it's more math than science, but only kind've. It's not exactly a textbook listing formulae. Besides, there is a very small step between math and science.

Vallo, the Second Coming fucked around with this message on 02-03-2012 at 08:06 AM.

"We are just an advanced breed of monkeys on a minor planet of a very average star. But we can understand the Universe. That makes us something very special."
Blindy.
Suicide (Also: Gay.)
posted 02-03-2012 08:24:18 AM
If you're into hard sci-fi you should check out Blindsight. It's freely available on the internets (published under creative commons).

Arguing on the internet has improved me too. I look back at some of my old posts here and holy crap I was a fucking asshole/moron.

Karnaj
Road Warrior Queef
posted 02-03-2012 08:54:27 AM
You should read Parce's books. They're a lot of fun. Of course, they're not science-y in any way, but nevertheless, fun.
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Beer.

Tarquinn
Personally responsible for the decline of the American Dollar
posted 02-03-2012 11:10:32 AM
quote:
Maradon! wrote this then went back to looking for porn:
So I finished reading The Greatest Show on Earth, a book on evolution by the nefarious Dawkins, and I was in the mood for a new science book to read (I am open to suggestions, by the way) when something odd occurred to me.

I really enjoy learning, just for the sake of learning, but I wasn't always that way. There was a time when I didn't give a shit about anything except running around and playing video games. Oh, I always had an interest in the way things worked, astronomy and biology in particular, but when my parents bought me a telescope for my birthday I was as likely to break it pretending it was a bazooka than actually use it to look at stars. I never felt the need to learn, only an idle interest in it.

The turning point, I think, was when I started arguing on the internet. It made me realize how important it was to be right about things, and to correct my views when I was wrong.



No, u.
~Never underestimate the power of a Dark Clown.
Callalron
Hires people with hooks
posted 02-03-2012 12:28:37 PM
quote:
ACES! Another post by Tarquinn:
No, u.

tl;dr

Callalron
"When mankind finally discovers the center of the universe, a lot of people are going to be upset that it isn't them."
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Bloodsage
Heart Attack
posted 02-03-2012 01:23:04 PM
quote:
Bent over the coffee table, Callalron squealed:
tl;dr

qft

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Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven.

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Maradon!
posted 02-03-2012 09:02:42 PM
quote:
Peanut butter ass Shaq Karnaj booooze lime pole over bench lick:
You should read Parce's books. They're a lot of fun. Of course, they're not science-y in any way, but nevertheless, fun.

I've read Parce's books.

I am into sci-fi and I haven't read Blindsight but I was more looking for non-fiction. I like to read one fiction book and one non-fiction at the same time, and I'm currently reading through the entire Discworld series (I'm at Men at Arms) so my fiction plate is full, but I'm hurting for a non-fiction.

Bloodsage
Heart Attack
posted 02-03-2012 09:11:15 PM
If you're interested in music and in the theory of learning, I just finished Guitar Zero by Gary Marcus. He's a well-known cognitive psychologist who decided on a whim to learn guitar at 40 years old, and writes about his experience as well as discusses the "talent v. practice" argument and how the brain learns. It's pretty wide-ranging, and engagingly written.

I read it because I'm learning guitar and just started at a similar age. But I'm not able to take a year-long sabbatical to learn full time and write a book about it, so my mileage has definitely varied.

A quick read, with interesting points, but not overly pedantic or esoteric.

To reign is worth ambition, though in Hell:
Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven.

--Satan, quoted by John Milton

Tarquinn
Personally responsible for the decline of the American Dollar
posted 02-04-2012 05:55:07 AM
quote:
Maradon! wrote this stupid crap:
I've read Parce's books.

I am into sci-fi and I haven't read Blindsight but I was more looking for non-fiction. I like to read one fiction book and one non-fiction at the same time, and I'm currently reading through the entire Discworld series (I'm at Men at Arms) so my fiction plate is full, but I'm hurting for a non-fiction.


Dawkin's other books are worth a read too.

Most other non-fiction books I've read are about strategy and tactics (von Clausewitz, Machiavelli etc.), which I am not sure you're interested in.

~Never underestimate the power of a Dark Clown.
Vallo, the Second Coming
Pancake
posted 02-04-2012 10:29:47 AM
quote:
Vallo, the Second Coming had this to say about Cuba:
To an extent, I rather agree.
Godel, Escher, Bach.

"We are just an advanced breed of monkeys on a minor planet of a very average star. But we can understand the Universe. That makes us something very special."
Blindy.
Suicide (Also: Gay.)
posted 02-04-2012 09:19:14 PM
quote:
I wish Tarquinn would say this more often:
Dawkin's other books are worth a read too.

Most other non-fiction books I've read are about strategy and tactics (von Clausewitz, Machiavelli etc.), which I am not sure you're interested in.


A German reading about the craft of war? Well I'll be.

Tarquinn
Personally responsible for the decline of the American Dollar
posted 02-05-2012 05:27:24 AM
Better reading than practicing.
~Never underestimate the power of a Dark Clown.
Damnati
Filthy
posted 02-06-2012 05:59:09 PM
quote:
Tarquinn got all f'ed up on Angel Dust and wrote:
Better reading than practicing.

What's wrong with practicing?

I've enjoyed researching how marketing affects perception. Here's a somewhat NSFW example of a commercial that caused some people to completely rethink their idea of beauty.

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