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Topic: Look at this guy
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posted 09-09-2011 10:45:31 PM

This pointing guy. No one is giving a fuck about him and he's clearly pointing at something he thinks is important. Bush doesn't even give a fuck and neither does that blond lady. And what about those two guys on the left just standing there with briefcases staring at the wall? Or the brown hair lady who appears to be lost? Something is fishy about this photo.

Callalron
Hires people with hooks
posted 09-09-2011 11:28:32 PM
The fun thing about conspiracy loons is, no matter how often and how thoroughly you disprove their batshit brain droppings, they apparently possess the ability to generate new ones, almost spontaneously.

On the other hand, thank God we haven't had to listen to Rosie "Fire Doesn't Melt Steel" O'Donnell lately. She must be busy finishing her PhD thesis in Metallurgy.

Callalron
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Vallo, the Second Coming
Pancake
posted 09-12-2011 05:12:32 AM
quote:
Callalron's account was hax0red to write:
The fun thing about conspiracy loons is, no matter how often and how thoroughly you disprove their batshit brain droppings, they apparently possess the ability to generate new ones, almost spontaneously.

On the other hand, thank God we haven't had to listen to Rosie "Fire Doesn't Melt Steel" O'Donnell lately. She must be busy finishing her PhD thesis in Metallurgy.


Actually fire not melting iron very well is one of the things we had to work on that got the industrial revolution rolling - the Brits made air pumps that helped keep temperatures trmendously high and steady, making metallurgy more feasible. It was still possible beforehand, it just took goddamned forever to even get the fire rolling to work with and required an artisan to actually make it work properly.

To think that the giant metal frame would have a hard time melting with random fire around it from jet fuel is pretty valid, especially to have it melt simultaneously as well as in a neat, diagonal line across every pillar on a floor.

Not trying to go either way on the actual topic, just sayin'.

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Blindy.
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posted 09-12-2011 09:15:35 AM
Yeah I don't think they had jet fuel in the middle ages.
Vallo, the Second Coming
Pancake
posted 09-13-2011 07:56:29 AM
quote:
This insanity brought to you by Blindy.:
Yeah I don't think they had jet fuel in the middle ages.

Jet fuel burns at around 600 F. Steel melts around 2500F.

Also, Industrial Revolution != Middle Ages.

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Blindy.
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posted 09-13-2011 08:58:38 AM
You don't need to melt steel into a puddle to get it to sheer under many tons of pressure.

Blindy. fucked around with this message on 09-13-2011 at 08:59 AM.

Peter
Pancake
posted 09-13-2011 10:10:04 AM
quote:
ACES! Another post by Vallo, the Second Coming:
Jet fuel burns at around 600 F. Steel melts around 2500F.

Also, Industrial Revolution != Middle Ages.


You Just to point out, more than just Jet fuel and steel to burn in said building...

Bloodsage
Heart Attack
posted 09-13-2011 05:15:41 PM
This argument has already been definitively settled by Popular Mechanics, guys.

As an aside, I can also tell you that vast conspiracies requiring the participation of hundreds or thousands of people over long periods of time are flatly impossible in a bureaucracy like ours. Infinitely more so since Woodward and Bernstein.

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Condom Ninja El Supremo
posted 09-13-2011 09:58:22 PM
People are still arguing that point?

I figured it was kinda common sense that the steel supports didn't have to melt, just become malleable to lead to a collapse of any kind. What, does no one play with bending paperclips and shit anymore?

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leckzilla!
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posted 09-14-2011 04:35:40 AM
quote:
From the book of Callalron, chapter 3, verse 16:
On the other hand, thank God we haven't had to listen to Rosie "Fire Doesn't Melt Steel" O'Donnell lately. She must be busy finishing her PhD thesis in Metallurgy.

For some reason I thought she was dead!

Callalron
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posted 09-14-2011 10:28:57 AM
She isn't dead, but her career is.
Callalron
"When mankind finally discovers the center of the universe, a lot of people are going to be upset that it isn't them."
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Pancake
posted 09-15-2011 06:40:25 AM
quote:
Blindy. obviously shouldn't have said:
You don't need to melt steel into a puddle to get it to sheer under many tons of pressure.

According to firemen on first response, puddles of molten steel were lying around. Unless you're calling them liars.

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Condom Ninja El Supremo
posted 09-15-2011 07:05:50 AM
Wouldn't call them liars, but unless they were wearing heat gear in excess of their normal I'd question if it was really molten steel they were seeing. Given that there were other things in there I wouldn't be shocked to find out it was a pool of something else that, given it's metallic-grey coloring, was assumed to be molten steel.

Granted liquid steel/iron is never grey... it's a nice, bright "OMFG IT'S BURNING MY FACE" orange-red...

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Blindy.
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posted 09-15-2011 11:27:30 AM
quote:
Vallo, the Second Coming needs to learn to type:
According to firemen on first response, puddles of molten steel were lying around. Unless you're calling them liars.

The obvious conclusion being not that something that caught on fire was hot enough to melt some metal, but that the towers were purposely demolished in huge conspiracy to start war with Iraq even though Afghanistan was blamed and invaded a month later.

Callalron
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posted 09-16-2011 12:18:13 AM
Then there's the whole matter of the sheer, mind-boggling amount of prep work to implode a building. When the old Aladdin Casino (now the Planet Hollywood Casino) was imploded it took dozens, if not hundreds of guys a month or more to prep the building. Each of the WTC towers was several times bigger. And yet not one of the thousands of people going in and out of the building each day noticed anything? And over the years not one person involved in the planning or execution of the "conspiracy" ever had an attack of remorse and decided to come clean? Or make a deathbed confession?

We used to have a rule of thumb in the intel community. We called it "The Inverse Square Rule". Basically the chance of a secret actually remaining secret was equal to the inverse of the square of the number of people who knew it. So if 10 people know a secret, there was 1/10^2 or 1/100 chance it'll stay secret. Given the number of people who'd be involved in something like this, well, do the math yourself.

Callalron
"When mankind finally discovers the center of the universe, a lot of people are going to be upset that it isn't them."
"If you give a man a fish he'll eat for a day. If you teach a man to fish he'll just go out and buy an ugly hat. But if you talk to a starving man about fish, then you've become a consultant."--Dogbert
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posted 09-16-2011 04:39:30 AM
quote:
Callalron obviously shouldn't have said:
Then there's the whole matter of the sheer, mind-boggling amount of prep work to implode a building. When the old Aladdin Casino (now the Planet Hollywood Casino) was imploded it took dozens, if not hundreds of guys a month or more to prep the building. Each of the WTC towers was several times bigger. And yet not one of the thousands of people going in and out of the building each day noticed anything? And over the years not one person involved in the planning or execution of the "conspiracy" ever had an attack of remorse and decided to come clean? Or make a deathbed confession?

Dick Cheney planted all the bombs himself.

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Condom Ninja El Supremo
posted 09-16-2011 08:27:49 AM
quote:
This one time, at Jesus camp:
Dick Cheney planted all the bombs himself.

I knew there was something about him...

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Vallo, the Second Coming
Pancake
posted 09-16-2011 09:59:21 PM
quote:
Blindy. wrote this then went back to looking for porn:
The obvious conclusion being not that something that caught on fire was hot enough to melt some metal, but that the towers were purposely demolished in huge conspiracy to start war with Iraq even though Afghanistan was blamed and invaded a month later.

Not at all. The government is incompetent.

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