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Topic: Command & Conquer 4
Mortious
Gluttonous Overlard
posted 03-30-2010 03:23:34 PM
Is shit.

No. Really.

Really.

Mortious
Gluttonous Overlard
posted 03-30-2010 03:33:25 PM
No resource gathering.

Tiny armies.

No base.

The ending doesn't even explain anything.

Fuck you, EA.

Fuck you.

Ghost of Forums Past
Pancake
posted 03-30-2010 04:00:33 PM
You just described a game that isn't Command and Conquer.
Mortious
Gluttonous Overlard
posted 03-30-2010 04:34:44 PM
Exactly.
Kegwen
Sonyfag
posted 03-30-2010 05:15:55 PM
blame relic
Peter
Pancake
posted 03-30-2010 11:33:18 PM
quote:
Kegwen stopped beating up furries long enough to write:
blame relic

Why? They didn't Make the game.

Blame those that decided to abandon their originality and copy someone else.

Kegwen
Sonyfag
posted 03-30-2010 11:37:36 PM
The success of Relic's games is the only reason EA thought it was acceptable to take all that shit out of C&C4

edit: to be fair there's nothing original about keeping a 15 year old formula intact, but I'd prefer staying the course to following Relic's awful game design any day

Kegwen fucked around with this message on 03-30-2010 at 11:38 PM.

Falaanla Marr
I AM HOT CHIX
posted 03-30-2010 11:44:57 PM
Honestly, I'm glad the whole resource gathering with huge tech tree being required in any strategy game BS is becoming a thing of the past with the genre. Means I can play them and enjoy them instead of just getting destroyed constantly due to a lack of ability to do all the crazy multitasking necessary to be mediocre at said games.

Dawn of War 2 is a pretty awesome game. As was the first Dawn of War.

A lack of resource gathering/small armies/no base doesn't make a bad game. Sure, it makes this not C&C, but I'm glad Relic tried to do something outside of the mold and had success, since people will try to copy and improve on said formula as shown here with C&C4.

Falaanla Marr fucked around with this message on 03-30-2010 at 11:46 PM.

Kegwen
Sonyfag
posted 03-31-2010 12:27:05 AM
It doesn't necessarily make a bad game but it has a track record of ruining my interest in every RTS that's chosen that path
Mortious
Gluttonous Overlard
posted 03-31-2010 03:00:47 AM
All the actors except for Kane are horrible and look like they've been pulled from a B-grade daytime soap opera.

Kane wears some stupid hoodie thing instead of his normally awesome Nod clothing.

This is just.. just..

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

Random Insanity Generator
Condom Ninja El Supremo
posted 03-31-2010 04:17:44 AM
I would consider buying the cutscenes from 2 and 3... the story was at least somewhat interesting

2 sucked as a game and 3 looked like it was going down the same path before I formatted my machine.

I heard about 4 when it was released, then saw that one of EA's bigwigs got pissed off at the DRM causing him to be booted from the game sans save because of a crappy DSL link... C&C is dead.

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Mortious
Gluttonous Overlard
posted 03-31-2010 07:50:46 AM
I've discovered the problem.

The lead developer is a jockish douchebag.

Greenlit
posted 03-31-2010 08:18:44 AM
This reminds me of the whole Prince of Persia: Warrior Within debacle. Game came out, had terrible story, writing, and art direction, collective internet goes "WHAT THE FUCK".

Interview with new lead developer turns out to be some asshole with tribal tattoos all over his arms, smugly going on about how he wanted to take the game in a new direction from its predecessor.

Peter
Pancake
posted 03-31-2010 03:28:26 PM
quote:
Falaanla Marr thought this was the Ricky Martin Fan Club Forum and wrote:
Honestly, I'm glad the whole resource gathering with huge tech tree being required in any strategy game BS is becoming a thing of the past with the genre. Means I can play them and enjoy them instead of just getting destroyed constantly due to a lack of ability to do all the crazy multitasking necessary to be mediocre at said games.....

Dunno C&C Generals seemed Be pretty decent play wise. Why not to build on that and take to the normal C&C universe?

And IMHO Relic's model from DoW works mostly because the source lends its self to it. Normal 40k is more focused on smaller armies and units. I would bet if Relic were tasked to make a Epic 40k Game it would be more like the older C&C and Warcraft games.

And this is EA, Slayer of Developers, we're talking about. Westwood, and it's titles, join Origin and Bullfrog in death.

Peter fucked around with this message on 03-31-2010 at 03:29 PM.

Kegwen
Sonyfag
posted 03-31-2010 04:00:09 PM
Westwood hasn't existed for a long time. It's ancient history at this point
Blindy
Roll for initiative, Monkey Boy!
posted 03-31-2010 04:02:37 PM
I kinda liked the concept, personally.

I suck at RTS where you have five million things to keep track of, but I enjoy RTS in general.

On a plane ride, the more it shakes,
The more I have to let go.
Khyron
Hello, my mushy friend...
posted 03-31-2010 05:04:57 PM
quote:
The logic train ran off the tracks when Blindy said:
I kinda liked the concept, personally.

I suck at RTS where you have five million things to keep track of, but I enjoy RTS in general.


Fuck you.

It isn't Command and Conquer unless I can turtle like a bitch and build fifty of the superweapons to unleash all at once.

Random Insanity Generator
Condom Ninja El Supremo
posted 04-01-2010 01:12:50 AM
quote:
Khyron had this to say about Optimus Prime:
Fuck you.

It isn't Command and Conquer unless I can turtle like a bitch and build fifty of the superweapons to unleash all at once.


Also applies to Starcraft. Nothing quite like chain nuking the piss out of places.

* NullDevice kicks the server. "Floggings will continue until processing power improves!"
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"That was black magic, and it was easy to use. Easy and fun. Like Legos." -- Harry Dresden
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That's what playing Ragnarok Online taught me: There's no problem in the universe that can't be resolved by the proper application of daggers to faces.
Inferno-Spirit
Sports Advocate
posted 04-01-2010 01:40:45 AM
quote:
Random Insanity Generator wrote, obviously thinking too hard:
Also applies to Starcraft. Nothing quite like chain nuking the piss out of places.

Turtling is totally impractical in Starcraft unless you are way better than your enemy or you're playing infinite money (which isn't actually Starcraft). It's too easy to stop nukes and too easy to just expand win through attrition.

C&C superweapons/defensive structures were just silly effective and actually worth spamming.

"He lets the last Hungarian go, and he goes running. He waits until his wife and kids are in the ground and he goes after the rest of the mob. He kills their kids, he kills their wives, he kills their parents and their parents' friends. He burns down the houses they grew up in and the stores they work in, he kills people that owe them money. And like that he was gone. Underground. No one has ever seen him again. He becomes a myth, a spook story that criminals tell their kids at night. 'If you rat on your pop, Keyser Soze will get you.' And nobody really ever believes." - Roger 'Verbal' Kint, The Usual Suspects
Khyron
Hello, my mushy friend...
posted 04-01-2010 10:14:30 AM
quote:
Inferno-Spirit had this to say about pies:
Turtling is totally impractical in Starcraft unless you are way better than your enemy or you're playing infinite money (which isn't actually Starcraft). It's too easy to stop nukes and too easy to just expand win through attrition.

C&C superweapons/defensive structures were just silly effective and actually worth spamming.


Superweapon spam was always hands down my favorite tactic, and to date one of my most enjoyable memories was building ten scud launchers then firing them all off at a smallish base. It was glorious. Ninety rockets cascading down almost all at once, leaving behind a hellish landscape of green oozing anthrax.

Khyron fucked around with this message on 04-01-2010 at 10:17 AM.

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posted 04-02-2010 12:39:11 AM
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