So, yeah. Go abstinence only programs, I guess. To be fair, though, this could very well be a blip. If we see another jump next year, however, then we can't say that as easily.

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Steven Steve got served! Steven Steve got served!
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I also would have accepted, "You're welcome," followed by the smug emoticon of your choice.

The ten states with the highest rates of teen pregnancy are Nevada, Arizona, Mississippi, New Mexico, Texas, Florida, California, Georgia, North Carolina, and Arkansas (in that order actually!)

Arizona and California are good examples of states with horrendous teen pregnancy rates, but also a general opposition to abstinence-only sex ed.

Seems to me like it doesn't really matter what kind of class they take, kids just aren't going to learn about sex at school.

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Maradon! put down Tada! magazine long enough to type:
Seems to me like it doesn't really matter what kind of class they take, kids just aren't going to learn about sex at school.

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Wait, what? That's retarded. Why is that retarded? Because you're basically saying that either children are incapable of learning about sex (which seems to run contrary to, oh, much of human nature), or that adults are, within an educational institution, incapable of teaching children about sex.

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Check out the big brain on Blindy!
The high teen pregnancy rates in arizona and california couldn't possibly have to do with the large Hispanic population.

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Racist.

Hey that is fun.

edit: but no your point/joke is not lost

Kegwen fucked around with this message on 01-28-2010 at 06:56 PM.

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Naimah said:
Why are some statistics racist and others not?

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Because the race card = easy cash.

And the truth hurts.

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Naimah still thinks SARS jokes are topical, as evidenced by:
But it's racist to say that people of African heritage perform poorly in school, as shown by statistics? Or have a tendency to commit violent crimes, as shown by statistics? Why are some statistics racist and others not?

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Because only racist people put it the way you did. Non-racist people would go on to point out environmental, economic, and social factors to explain why this happens.

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shut up you're fat attempted to be funny by writing:
You called me a grandma like 2 days ago

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Yeah, but that fact is backed up by statistics.

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Karnaj was naked while typing this:
Because only racist people put it the way you did. Non-racist people would go on to point out environmental, economic, and social factors to explain why this happens.

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It is statistical fact that I poop less than most other people. Is this racist?

A non racist would note that Hispanics have a higher teen pregnancy rate, but suggest that this is because they are overwhelmingly Catholic (and not use birth control or get abortions) and more likely to be from lower income families than non-Hispanic. 1st or 2nd generation naturalized citizens are also more likely to have had parents who had children early, another highly corollary indicator in teen pregnancy rates.

For example, poor black people have higher imprisonment and recidivism rates than poor white people, even though the statistics have shown that the crime levels between these two social groups are nearly identical.

Racist: It's because black people are stupid and get caught.
Non-racist: It's because the correction and enforcement system is disproportionately harsher on black people; the system itself is racist.

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If Bloodsage was a glacier, they'd be a fast one:
This many years after the human genome project pulled the rug out from under the entire notion of race, it saddens me these conversations still happen, and that the concept hasn't gone the way of the dodo.

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I feel the same way. Race doesn't exist. However, cultural and socio-economic norms, at least in this country, do still align with a reasonably high consistency with the segments carved out in our outdated concepts of race, and I think that is why this is an issue that didn't die when it should have.

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Blindy said this about your mom:
It would be Racism to suggest that Hispanics have higher teen pregnancy rates because they're Hispanic. The connotation here is that Hispanics are different and/or inferior to whites because of their race, and not because of other socio-demographic do appear in high correlation with that racial identity but are not caused by being a member of that race.

A non racist would note that Hispanics have a higher teen pregnancy rate, but suggest that this is because they are overwhelmingly Catholic (and not use birth control or get abortions) and more likely to be from lower income families than non-Hispanic. 1st or 2nd generation naturalized citizens are also more likely to have had parents who had children early, another highly corollary indicator in teen pregnancy rates.

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Then why didn't you simply say that Arizona has more low income catholics and not Arizona has Hispanics? You still fall into the same category, yet claim to not be racist. Why did you site a corollary demographic instead of the two casual demographics that you listed?

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Naimah says ta-ma-to, I say to-ma-to:
Then why didn't you simply say that Arizona has more low income catholics and not Arizona has Hispanics? You still fall into the same category, yet claim to not be racist. Why did you site a corollary demographic instead of the two casual demographics that you listed?

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That's retarded. You're retarded.

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There was much rejoicing when Blindy. said this:
That's retarded. You're retarded.

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 I really do hate those wetback breeding bastards and am too lazy to continue trying to convince you otherwise. 

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Karnaj had this to say about Captain Planet:
YAHoooooOOOOOO

So, yeah. Go abstinence only programs, I guess. To be fair, though, this could very well be a blip. If we see another jump next year, however, then we can't say that as easily.

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How Did north Dakota Make the low teenage pregnancy list? Truly there is nothing else to do in that state, I mean south Dakota is the pits. Seen Dancing with Wolves and all the wide open spaces? Yeah that 90% of South Dakota, Just Grass to the horizon. Only redeeming parts are the Badlands and the Black Hills. But North Dakota Doesn't even have that, best they can say is it's colder than The other Dakota.

And IMHO Abstinence programs getting federal funding is fucking retarded, be better to just go for contraceptive programs..Rather have a program that won't be immediately foiled by alcohol, drugs, or flirty hormonal urges.

It was completely different than your standard moral/religious abstinence-only program, though. Apparently they were focusing on real-life consequences instead of what Jesus wants.

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I wish Taeldian would say this more often:
NPR was ranting and raving this week about an abstinence-only program that actually worked.

It was completely different than your standard moral/religious abstinence-only program, though. Apparently they were focusing on real-life consequences instead of what Jesus wants.

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if it's talking about real-life consequences then it's not abstinence-only.

Abstinence-only literally means you tell the children absolutely nothing about how sex works, STDs, how pregnancy happens, birth control, or any of that. You only tell them to be abstinent, and that's it.

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So quoth Peter:
[snip] Rather have a program that won't be immediately foiled by alcohol, drugs, or flirty hormonal urges.

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Because nobody has ever forgotten a condom in the throes of the above?