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Topic: The G20 Summit
Mr. Parcelan
posted 09-27-2009 01:50:16 PM
What are your thoughts?

I'm having a hard time taking the protesters seriously in this case.

Mr. Parcelan
posted 09-27-2009 02:37:10 PM
Gosh, I suppose it would help if I clarified that position instead of sitting back like a coward, huh?

Okay, here is my general impression of the protests from two sides:

Being generous, I would make a few inductive assumptions and say that the protest against G20/Globalization/etc. is more an argument about capitalism than anything else, specifically going against the idea of utilizing developing and third world countries for cheap labor.

But on the same hand, does it not seem that might be a little short-sighted in its goals? It seems that such arguments are promoting a pretty isolationist policy, because, really, is it even possible, let alone feasible, to encourage global cooperation without global trade? Money is a pretty big motivator and while I'm not cynical enough to say that the almighty dollar controls all, I'm not sure that there'll be a lot of interest in two countries "just bein' pals, hangin' out," as it were.

But, on the side of not being generous, I'm having a very hard time trying to see what these protesters are actually against. There are a bunch of crazy greenpeace/PETA/environmental groups, anarchists and freegans and a lot of weirdos. It seems cynical to say that these protests have actually become conventions, but I'm hard-pressed to see what the goal is or how effective they are being.

If anyone has a more insightful explanation, I would very much like to hear it.

Vernaltemptress
Withered and Alone
posted 09-27-2009 03:27:46 PM
quote:
"I think they make a fuss because they can, because it's a gathering that quite properly draws international attention," Ms. Ellsworth said.

Article stale dated May 31, 2009 but it covers pre-planning for Pittsburgh.

Vernaltemptress fucked around with this message on 09-27-2009 at 03:28 PM.

Obamanomics: spend, tax, and borrow.
Karnaj
Road Warrior Queef
posted 09-27-2009 09:34:03 PM
It's the children of wealthy white people protesting against capitalism. By and large, it's an outgrowth of teenage rebellion. Most will make peace with the system in a few years, that will be that. Hard to take such ephemeral ideologues seriously.

How do I know it's wealthy kids? Poor people may dislike capitalism, but they dislike not eating more, so they go to work instead of to the protest.

That's the American Dream: to make your life into something you can sell. - Chuck Palahniuk, Haunted

Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite. - John Kenneth Galbraith



Beer.

Mr. Parcelan
posted 09-27-2009 09:39:38 PM
please lend me some money so i can protest
Maradon!
posted 09-28-2009 07:07:22 AM
God forbid we "utilize" developing countries for "cheap" labor and thereby dramatically increase the standard of living for everyone involved.

Why do these people in third world countries TAKE these jobs anyway? Don't they realize that a lifetime of bucolic subsistence farming is just so much more NATURAL?

Blindy
Roll for initiative, Monkey Boy!
posted 09-30-2009 09:22:47 AM
hey guys if you pay a chinaman 1 dollars an hour that's immoral we should pay them 20 dollars an hour.

what they starve to death then? megainflation? wha?

On a plane ride, the more it shakes,
The more I have to let go.
Karnaj
Road Warrior Queef
posted 09-30-2009 09:57:05 AM
American protesters are just imitating European ones, by and large. European anarchists are the real deal. They'll live in abandoned shitholes without electricity and running water, on the edge of starvation, just because. They actually survive outside the system which they hate(until they get sick or have to take the train somewhere, of course). The protesters you saw in Pittsburgh will return to lives of comfort and ease, having accomplished nothing more than perhaps contracting gonorrhea from filthy tent sex with an unbelievably hot stranger.

Huh. Maybe there is something to this protesting thing.

That's the American Dream: to make your life into something you can sell. - Chuck Palahniuk, Haunted

Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite. - John Kenneth Galbraith



Beer.

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