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Topic: So Spore comes out in a week
Mortious
Gluttonous Overlard
posted 08-30-2008 05:14:32 AM
Who's getting it?

SecuROM invasive DRM represent.

I'm not.

Captain Tarquinn
Don't Ask
posted 08-30-2008 06:20:03 AM
I don't. It's absolutely overhyped.
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject."
Maradon!
posted 08-30-2008 06:25:29 AM
It looked amazing back in the day, but the more I read about it, the less excited I am.

At first I thought it was a sort of 3d E.V.O. but now it seems more like a hands-off, simcity kind of game.

KaLourin
Illanae's Stooge!
posted 08-30-2008 10:57:22 AM
quote:
Maradon! had this to say about John Romero:

At first I thought it was a sort of 3d E.V.O.

That would have rocked.

Dont make me slap you so hard your bucket spins around, and around,and stops sideways,thus confusing you, and making you run about London wearing your bucket, a g-string, and carrying a stick,smacking the ground while yelling "MAGICALLY DELICIOUS! MAGICALLY FUCKING DELICIOUS!"- {Tal} to Mortious
Hebrew 9:3- 'And the Lord said unto me, "Dude, there isn't a K in covenant."' - Snoota

This beer drops trou and fucks your mouth with pure hoppy goodness. - Karnaj
Steven Steve
posted 08-30-2008 11:04:38 AM
Assuming someone finds a way around the securom I will be pirating this game.
"Absolutely NOTHING [will stop me from buying Diablo III]. I will buy it regardless of what they do."
- Grawbad, Battle.net forums

"Don't want to sound like a fanboy, but I am with you. I'll buy it for sure, it's just a matter of for how long I will be playing it..."
- Silvast, Battle.net forums

Maradon!
posted 08-30-2008 12:30:34 PM
I can't even think of a game that hasn't had the DRM cracked well before release.

crowdsourcing ftw

Greenlit
posted 08-30-2008 12:37:44 PM
uh

Alone in the Dark and Bionic Commando both had DRM that was only very recently cracked (a month after release)

Maradon!
posted 08-30-2008 12:43:19 PM
I didn't even know those were PC titles.

A month after release doesn't exactly refute the concept I was trying to get across there.

Ghost of Forums Past
Pancake
posted 08-30-2008 01:03:23 PM
I've been looking forward to spore's release for some time now.

I honestly gave up hope in it ever being released over a year ago. My excitement for the game was on a steady decline ever since.

Nonetheless, if the reviews turn out to be positive and my machine can run it reasonably well, it will be the first PC Game purchase I'll make in about a year.

Naimah
In a Fire
posted 08-30-2008 01:14:06 PM
I won't buy it because of the DRM. I may even send them a letter or some such stating as much.
Kegwen
Sonyfag
posted 08-30-2008 01:19:54 PM
If it were on console it'd be a rental which means that I might pirate it if I remember to care
Anklebiter, again.
Pancake
posted 08-30-2008 03:36:16 PM
Will the DRM affect rights to user-created content or not? I am not quite understanding what it means for a game, and wouldn't mind being educated.
Kegwen
Sonyfag
posted 08-30-2008 03:52:44 PM
A lot of people are trying to "vote with their wallet" by not buying games that burden legitimate, paying customers with DRM schemes that are apparently laughably easy to break.

See: Bioshock PC and the original Mass Effect PC validation schemes

It has nothing to do with broken functionality for a lot of people, though. It's seen as a matter of principle. These "principled" people often pirate the product instead, which just tells the (idiotic) publishers that they just didn't DRM it well enough. The cycle continues.

Kegwen fucked around with this message on 08-30-2008 at 03:55 PM.

Mortious
Gluttonous Overlard
posted 08-30-2008 04:00:46 PM
quote:
Anklebiter, again. said:
Will the DRM affect rights to user-created content or not? I am not quite understanding what it means for a game, and wouldn't mind being educated.

Mostly means restricted installs (3 installs max on different setups) and online activation only.

SecuROM is extremely invasive though, it's been known to check any and all other exe's running on a system and disable anything it thinks is related to piracy. It's also caused crashes out the wazoo, but EA is humping SecuROM's leg so it's on almost everything they publish.

Maradon!
posted 08-30-2008 09:35:51 PM
quote:
Over the mountain, in between the ups and downs, I ran into Kegwen who doth quote:
A lot of people are trying to "vote with their wallet" by not buying games that burden legitimate, paying customers with DRM schemes that are apparently laughably easy to break.

See: Bioshock PC and the original Mass Effect PC validation schemes

It has nothing to do with broken functionality for a lot of people, though. It's seen as a matter of principle. These "principled" people often pirate the product instead, which just tells the (idiotic) publishers that they just didn't DRM it well enough. The cycle continues.


Unless you only pirate DRM protected games.

Kegwen
Sonyfag
posted 08-30-2008 09:37:10 PM
quote:
Maradon! got all f'ed up on Angel Dust and wrote:
Unless you only pirate DRM protected games.

You're giving the publishers too much credit. The solution here, to many publishers, is to just try to implement a better one

I guess they're just really concerned about casual piracy a la hey buddy can I borrow your copy

Kegwen fucked around with this message on 08-30-2008 at 09:38 PM.

Steven Steve
posted 08-30-2008 10:47:36 PM
The real solution is to murder developers of DRM protected games.
"Absolutely NOTHING [will stop me from buying Diablo III]. I will buy it regardless of what they do."
- Grawbad, Battle.net forums

"Don't want to sound like a fanboy, but I am with you. I'll buy it for sure, it's just a matter of for how long I will be playing it..."
- Silvast, Battle.net forums

Naimah
In a Fire
posted 08-31-2008 12:00:55 AM
quote:
Steven Steve enlisted the help of an infinite number of monkeys to write:
The real solution is to murder developers of DRM protected games.
Nina
posted 08-31-2008 12:04:51 AM
No, I don't plan on getting it -- if I wanted four different games tacked on top of a procedural monster creator, I'd get four different fully fleshed games.
Kegwen
Sonyfag
posted 08-31-2008 12:06:57 AM
Usually developers only put DRM in because the publishers who sign their checks told them to
Maradon!
posted 08-31-2008 01:02:18 AM
Piracy is one of the biggest reasons why the PC is dead as a gaming platform.

What kind of PC games do you see anymore? Console ports, engine demos, MMORPG's, and indie crap. The best PC titles sell as well as the most average console titles. PC games are relegated to an obscure corner of boutiques and electronics sections, filed edgewise and organized alphabetically if at all. Huddled together, as if braving some bitter winter with only a paper CD pouch for warmth.

It doesn't really make much sense for this to be the case, given that the PC has exponentially higher market penetration than any other platform, but these are the consequences of looting.

That said, DRM harms the legitimate consumer and does not address the problem of piracy. I don't have a solution, but invasive DRM isn't it.

Maradon! fucked around with this message on 08-31-2008 at 01:03 AM.

Maradon!
posted 08-31-2008 01:03:48 AM
Sorry, I morphed into Tycho from PA for a second there.
Kegwen
Sonyfag
posted 08-31-2008 01:09:42 AM
quote:
Maradon! had this to say about dark elf butts:
The best PC titles sell as well as the most average console titles.

The problem with this point is that PC numbers are actually bigger than ever. They're nothing compared to console numbers, but there wasn't any real downgrade here

Maradon!
posted 08-31-2008 01:33:15 AM
PC numbers are most likely bigger than ever because gaming numbers are bigger than ever.

I wish I had numbers on the precise market share of the PC as a gaming platform, but I wouldn't be surprised to find it steadily declining. It's is certainly evident in their retail presence and in the amount of developer attention.

[edit: PC gaming market share is steadily declining. Saw 6% decline in 2007

Maradon! fucked around with this message on 08-31-2008 at 01:36 AM.

Kegwen
Sonyfag
posted 08-31-2008 01:34:43 AM
Well yes, would you rather have your "reasonably successful" product sell 800k+ lifetime or 250k lifetime?

steadily declining proportionally to the wildly successful consoles, yeah.

Maybe I'll be okay with this when more console manufacturers do like Sony and allow mouse and keyboard in console shooters (see: Resistance)

Kegwen fucked around with this message on 08-31-2008 at 01:38 AM.

Mr. Parcelan
posted 08-31-2008 02:02:18 AM
THERE'S A WAR GOING ON, YOU ASSHOLES
Delphi Aegis
Delphi. That's right. The oracle. Ask me anything. Anything about your underwear.
posted 08-31-2008 03:02:50 AM
quote:
Check out the big brain on Kegwen!
Maybe I'll be okay with this when more console manufacturers do like Sony and allow mouse and keyboard in console shooters (see: Resistance)

Quotin' dis.

Every time I've played a console shooter (halo series specifically) in the back of my mind, I've been going "Christ this would be so much fucking easier with a mouse/keyboard."

Please tell me they ramp up the difficulty (Not artificially) on the ports to PC.

Steven Steve
posted 08-31-2008 09:15:12 AM
"It's embarrassing that tournaments are held for first person shooters with game controllers" - John Carmack
"Absolutely NOTHING [will stop me from buying Diablo III]. I will buy it regardless of what they do."
- Grawbad, Battle.net forums

"Don't want to sound like a fanboy, but I am with you. I'll buy it for sure, it's just a matter of for how long I will be playing it..."
- Silvast, Battle.net forums

Kaius
Pancake
posted 09-01-2008 12:46:00 PM
quote:
Hey Spore Fans -

We wanted to let you know that we've been hearing your concerns about the online authentication mentioned earlier this week. I didn't want to head into the weekend without getting back to you with some information about how Spore is planning on using this new system.

A few things we wanted you to know:

* We authenticate your game online when you install and launch it the first time.
* We'll re-authenticate when a player uses online features, downloads new content or a patch for their game.
* The new system means you don't have to play with the disc in your computer. And if you are like me, always losing discs, this will be a huge benefit.
* You'll still be able to install and play on multiple computers.
* You can play offline.

We do hope that players will play online - sharing creatures, buildings and vehicles with other players is something that is unique to Spore and one of the coolest features of the game. Every day, when I play the Creature Stage, I get to see wacky and awesome new creatures from my Buddies on the team coming over the hill at me and I can't wait to see what happens when our creative, passionate community starts sharing their creations.

I'd love to write more - but I need to get back to work. We've got a game to finish. :-)

-caryl


I really don't see what the big deal is, this seems reasonable to me.

Steven Steve
posted 09-01-2008 02:16:55 PM
That information isn't exclusive to anything we've been saying in this thread, haha.
"Absolutely NOTHING [will stop me from buying Diablo III]. I will buy it regardless of what they do."
- Grawbad, Battle.net forums

"Don't want to sound like a fanboy, but I am with you. I'll buy it for sure, it's just a matter of for how long I will be playing it..."
- Silvast, Battle.net forums

Mortious
Gluttonous Overlard
posted 09-01-2008 02:34:36 PM
quote:
Kaius said:
I can't wait to see what happens when our creative, passionate community starts sharing their creations

Penis creatures.

Lots of them.

Karnaj
Road Warrior Queef
posted 09-02-2008 03:12:01 PM
quote:
Mortious put down Tada! magazine long enough to type:
Penis creatures.

Lots of them.


That's why I decided against getting this game. I simply asked myself, "Would I use Spore to create anything other than interesting combinations of penises, butt cheeks, and scrota?" As it turns out, no, I wouldn't. And really, there are only so many ways to combine the three.

That's the American Dream: to make your life into something you can sell. - Chuck Palahniuk, Haunted

Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite. - John Kenneth Galbraith



Beer.

Steven Steve
posted 09-02-2008 03:33:43 PM
It's inevitable anyway, your creature will look like a penis no matter what.
"Absolutely NOTHING [will stop me from buying Diablo III]. I will buy it regardless of what they do."
- Grawbad, Battle.net forums

"Don't want to sound like a fanboy, but I am with you. I'll buy it for sure, it's just a matter of for how long I will be playing it..."
- Silvast, Battle.net forums

sarahtastic
Pancake
posted 09-03-2008 01:04:56 AM
it looks cute! i would buy it lol!
hay guys ;) lol
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