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Topic: Max Hardcore found guilty of "Obscenity"
Maradon!
posted 06-29-2008 02:08:52 PM
It's shit like this that makes me wonder if the democrats are really that bad after all.

The definition of "Obscenity" has been utterly arbitrary for far too long, and a wedge for these lawyers in black robes to arbitrate free speech.

Steven Steve
posted 06-29-2008 02:25:33 PM
Will his punishment be spanking? A time out?
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Greenlit
posted 06-29-2008 02:29:19 PM
Up to 50 years of spankings, yes.
Steven Steve
posted 06-29-2008 02:50:11 PM
Ha ha, he would have gotten a smaller punishment had he just banged actual 12 year olds and sold the tapes.
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Tyewa Dawnsister
In Poverty
posted 06-29-2008 04:23:27 PM
I followed this pretty closely.

They have a very good case on getting the conviction thrown out, since the judge broke all sorts of rules and showed bias.

He will probably get a new trial, and hopefully the prosecution will not want to waste any more money on this.

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Maradon!
posted 06-29-2008 06:53:02 PM
I mean that's fine and all, but what pisses me off is that they're able to say that it's illegal to video tape yourself peeing into the mouth of a consenting adult in the first place.
Vorbis
Vend-A-Goat
posted 06-29-2008 07:29:44 PM
quote:
This one time, at Maradon! camp:
I mean that's fine and all, but what pisses me off is that they're able to say that it's illegal to video tape yourself peeing into the mouth of a consenting adult in the first place.

Unless I'm missing something, the criminal act was in sending obscene material through the U.S. mail, not in either the filming or the performance itself.

Maradon!
posted 06-29-2008 08:50:59 PM
quote:
Peanut butter ass Shaq Vorbis booooze lime pole over bench lick:
Unless I'm missing something, the criminal act was in sending obscene material through the U.S. mail, not in either the filming or the performance itself.

That only constituted some of the charges. His films were found to be "unprotected speech", whatever that is.

quote:
Prosecutor Lisamarie Freitas spoke briefly about how Little had shot much of the five adjudged-obscene titles in his home, and how his Websites had been used to disseminate the promotional trailers that had also been found to be unprotected speech.
Vorbis
Vend-A-Goat
posted 06-30-2008 12:51:12 AM
If something's ruled obscene, then it's not protected by the right to free speech. Thus, unprotected speech, which can have restrictions placed on its sale or transmission.
Maradon!
posted 06-30-2008 01:56:20 AM
quote:
Vorbising:
If something's ruled obscene, then it's not protected by the right to free speech. Thus, unprotected speech, which can have restrictions placed on its sale or transmission.

I'm aware of what "unprotected" means, what I want to know is why this particular speech should be deemed unprotected.

Greenlit
posted 06-30-2008 02:42:11 AM
They didn't use a condom.
Vorbis
Vend-A-Goat
posted 06-30-2008 02:58:25 PM
quote:
Verily, Maradon! doth proclaim:
I'm aware of what "unprotected" means, what I want to know is why this particular speech should be deemed unprotected.

Well, it seems that the jury decided it didn't stand up to the Miller test, and found it to be obscene.

It doesn't seem catastrophic or frightening that a jury would decide that this sorta fringe fetish porn is obscene. You can still shit in your partner's urethra--Griswold v. Connecticut isn't changed. Hell, you can even video tape it if you want, and keep it playing on your TV. The State has a right to decide what sort of proscriptions it can make on obscene materials.

Callalron
Hires people with hooks
posted 06-30-2008 05:10:48 PM
quote:
Maradon! painfully thought these words up:
I'm aware of what "unprotected" means, what I want to know is why this particular speech should be deemed unprotected.

You're forgetting the classic legal definition of obscenity: "I cam't describe it, but I know it when I see it."

Callalron
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