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Maradon!
posted 01-03-2008 09:37:41 PM
Democrats
1) Senator Barack Obama : 34.99%
2) Senator John Edwards : 31.26%
3) Senator Hillary Clinton : 30.96%
4) Everyone Else: 2.8%

Precincts reporting: 1230 of 1781

Republicans
Apparently because of the rules the republican caucus follows, results won't be available until later tonight.

I do, however, have the following from an unconfirmed source:

1) Huckabee 35%
2) Romney 24%
3) Thompson 14%
4) McCain 13%
5) Paul 10%
6) Giuliani 4%

with 40% of precincts "completed"

I hope to christ it isn't true.

Maradon! fucked around with this message on 01-03-2008 at 09:38 PM.

Kinanik
Upset about being titless
posted 01-03-2008 09:52:06 PM
CNN called Huckabee with 15% of the precincts reporting.

This is bad news.


http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/state/#IA

Kinanik fucked around with this message on 01-03-2008 at 09:53 PM.

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Mr. Parcelan
posted 01-03-2008 09:52:35 PM
How did Huckabee get so up there?
Maradon!
posted 01-03-2008 09:54:11 PM
quote:
Over the mountain, in between the ups and downs, I ran into Mr. Parcelan who doth quote:
How did Huckabee get so up there?

it's fucking iowa

Kinanik
Upset about being titless
posted 01-03-2008 09:54:37 PM
The Evangelicals mobilized like no other. There were apparently prayer circles in the Huckabee sections of the caucus.
Gully Foyle is my name
And Terra is my nation
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The stars my destination
Mr. Parcelan
posted 01-03-2008 09:55:51 PM
That's cool. The Jews control everything, anyway.

Or maybe the Catholics do now,

Delphi Aegis
Delphi. That's right. The oracle. Ask me anything. Anything about your underwear.
posted 01-03-2008 09:58:02 PM
So, we'll end up choosing between a black guy with a name close to OSAMA and a white guy with a funny last name?
Mr. Parcelan
posted 01-03-2008 09:59:01 PM
Hey, what a surprise, Delphi is intimidated by black guys again.
Maradon!
posted 01-03-2008 10:05:05 PM
The least you guys can do for me next month is go out and vote for obama on super tuesday. Do that much for me. You owe me that much.

If huckabee really looks this strong I'm going to have to switch my vote from the throwaway Ron Paul vote I was planning on to someone more viable and less theocratic than Huckabee.

Noxhil2
Pancake
posted 01-03-2008 11:48:05 PM
quote:
From the book of Maradon!, chapter 3, verse 16:
The least you guys can do for me next month is go out and vote for obama on super tuesday. Do that much for me. You owe me that much.

If huckabee really looks this strong I'm going to have to switch my vote from the throwaway Ron Paul vote I was planning on to someone more viable and less theocratic than Huckabee.


I thought you don't like Obama?

Maradon!
posted 01-04-2008 12:00:36 AM
quote:
x--Noxhil2O-('-'Q) :
I thought you don't like Obama?

I don't but I like Hillary a whole, whole lot less

Cherveny
Papaya
posted 01-04-2008 12:14:44 AM
Wow, I think this is a first, Maradon and I actually agreeing on something political.

I think because a lot of the news media, until the last few weeks, was treating Huckabee as a lower tier canidate, he was not being asked the though questions. Recently, and hopefully even more now, they will start directing more of them towards him, as every time I've seen him try to answer a tough foreign policy question, he seems to start making an ass of himself. More people watching him more closely might make more people realize this.

I even agree with you on Clinton. I actually liked many of Bill Clinton's policies, but something about Hillary just rubs me the wrong way.

Kegwen
Sonyfag
posted 01-04-2008 12:18:30 AM
Man, if it's Huckabee versus Obama then Obama clearly gets my vote. Fuck you, Huckabee.
Cherveny
Papaya
posted 01-04-2008 12:27:21 AM
I can say one nice thing about Huckabee though. He is the first pro-lifer I've heard that has said that we need to worry about the life AFTER birth as well as before (making sure the children are actually cared for, etc.)

But, he has far too many negatives outweighing this one little fact for me to ever vote for him.

Noxhil2
Pancake
posted 01-04-2008 12:33:28 AM
quote:
Check out the big brain on Kegwen!
Man, if it's Huckabee versus Obama then Obama clearly gets my vote. Fuck you, Huckabee.

Obama should get your vote anyway

Mr. Parcelan
posted 01-04-2008 12:34:59 AM
Am I pre-emptively celebrating or did Obama take the caucas?

Should I stay my victory nutslap?

Kinanik
Upset about being titless
posted 01-04-2008 01:31:26 AM
Obama took it handily. Clinton and Edwards basically tied, but that pretty much means that Edwards is dead.
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Deep space is my dwelling place
The stars my destination
Dr. Gee
Say it Loud, Say it Plowed!
posted 01-04-2008 01:52:07 AM
quote:
There was much rejoicing when Maradon! said this:
The least you guys can do for me next month is go out and vote for obama on super tuesday. Do that much for me. You owe me that much.

If huckabee really looks this strong I'm going to have to switch my vote from the throwaway Ron Paul vote I was planning on to someone more viable and less theocratic than Huckabee.


Replace Ron Paul with Mike Gravel and that's what I was going to do, but the thought of a Hillary vs Huckabee campaign is scaring me into voting for the lesser of evils. I hope the rest of CA gets this instead of the rampant HILLARY! FUCKYA! that seems to be going on.

Not only do I just outright prefer Obama as a candidate, but he's way more electable than Hillary can ever be. I'd rather have a non-theocratic-leaning-towards-socialst than outright batshit crazy religious nutjob. We can repair four years of Democrats easier than four years of THE RULE OF JESUS OUR LORD AND SAVIOR.

Vernaltemptress
Withered and Alone
posted 01-04-2008 04:46:17 AM
Why vote for Obama?
Obamanomics: spend, tax, and borrow.
Karnaj
Road Warrior Queef
posted 01-04-2008 06:23:27 AM
Oh my. Well, good for Huckabee and Obama, I guess.

They should rename caucuses "cock-asses," too.

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Beer.

Maradon!
posted 01-04-2008 07:19:58 AM
60% of the republican voters in Iowa said they were evangelical christians in the exit polls.

60% of all the republican voters are not evangelical christians, so most people are predicting that Huckabee's success will not extend past Iowa.

tFUCKING RETARD
Pancake
posted 01-04-2008 07:58:54 AM
I will spiritually join Parce for a celebratory nutslap
There's nothing like a funeral to make you feel alive.
Blindy.
Suicide (Also: Gay.)
posted 01-04-2008 10:33:42 AM
Oh Christ don't let Huckabee win.
Zair
The Imp
posted 01-04-2008 01:41:01 PM
I would like to see Huckabee vs. Obama almost as much as I would like to see Guiliani vs. Obama.
Steven Steve
posted 01-04-2008 02:29:16 PM
quote:
Vernaltemptress had this to say about Matthew Broderick:
Why vote for Obama?

Because the alternative is a hyper-Christian cunt and voting for a losing candidate is illogical.

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Blindy.
Suicide (Also: Gay.)
posted 01-04-2008 05:35:10 PM
quote:
When Zair says stuff like this, it proves there isn't a God:
I would like to see Huckabee vs. Obama almost as much as I would like to see Guiliani vs. Obama.

If Huckabee wins it just gives fucking wacko evangelicals more leeway to say that the GOP is "God's Own Party" dumb fucking shit like that.

Naimah
In a Fire
posted 01-04-2008 05:38:54 PM
If Huckabee wins then I'm voting Democrat. Even though both Obama and Clinton scare the crap out of me.
Mr. Parcelan
posted 01-04-2008 06:10:34 PM
quote:
We were all impressed when Naimah wrote:
If Huckabee wins then I'm voting Democrat. Even though both Obama and Clinton scare the crap out of me.

Obama? Really? My greatest criticism of him is that he looks and sounds just too soft. What I love about him is that he's devoted to ending division in the country and supporting the end of the whole "fuck you, republican/democrat" shit that's been plaguing us since Bush got in. I just don't know how well he'd respond to a terrorist threat.

Clinton, however, is the most horrifying person on the planet.

Maradon!
posted 01-04-2008 06:13:51 PM
If Huckabee wins the nomination, then a democrat win in the general is pretty much a lock, and the democrats know that which is why they have been extremely light on him.

Huckabee is what your average street liberal incorrectly believes George W. Bush is; his record is that of a true "neocon" with generally socialist, big-government economic policies and very conservative, invasive social policies. Basically a reverse-giuliani. If it weren't for the fact that as a republican nominee he would be beholden to a constituency that would expect fiscal responsibility and non-invasive government, I would be starting to doubt whether or not he'd be better than Obama.

However, as previously mentioned, Iowa has a demographic that is fairly skewed in favor of the sort of blind fanatics that vote for Huckabee. Edwards as well got a bit of a distortion from Iowa's general backwoods makeup, a lot of the blue collar crowd tends to gobble up Edwards' trotskyesque "two americas" bullshit like a ham sandwich. Hillary, however, has no such regional bias to explain her failure, which I hope and pray to Moe, the atheist god that I just invented, will continue unabated.

I'd really like Obama to win the nomination for the simple reason that "inept but well meaning" is vastly preferable to "ambitious and boundlessly corrupt". He'd still be a disaster for the country, all the solutions he proposes to our current problems are precisely the wrong thing to do unless your goal is to make the problems as bad as they can possibly be, but at least that initial "getting used to it" phase would be a nice temporary reprieve and with any luck he'll turn out to be as ineffectual on economic issues as our current president only this time immune to criticism because he's black.

Maradon! fucked around with this message on 01-04-2008 at 06:16 PM.

Mr. Parcelan
posted 01-04-2008 06:17:02 PM
quote:
Vernaltemptress had this to say about Knight Rider:
Why vote for Obama?

As I see him over any other Democratic candidate: He wants to find a good resolution for the war (whether he'll find it or not is better than Hillary having no reason to end it), he's all about ending divisiveness (Clinton would love it to continue), doesn't seem too about social engineering (our good friend H.C. would love to see a police state).

Basically, Obama is a Democrat. Clinton is an old-school fascist.

Vorbis
Vend-A-Goat
posted 01-04-2008 06:58:11 PM
Plus the negro can speak as slick as Cicero.
Callalron
Hires people with hooks
posted 01-05-2008 12:00:23 AM
Before anyone busts a nut over this, allow me to provide a little historical and satistical perspective:

The last person to win the Iowa caucus and get into the White House was Jimmy Carter back in 1976.

Iowa is 1% of nations population, 95% white and hogs outnumber people 5 to 1.

Don't chisel the November ballot in stone quite yet.

Callalron
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Pancake
posted 01-05-2008 12:29:05 AM
So we know who gets the pig vote.
"From the depths of my parent's basement, thy has truly struck a blow for nonconformity."
Maradon!
posted 01-05-2008 01:36:59 AM
quote:
x--CallalronO-('-'Q) :
The last person to win the Iowa caucus and get into the White House was Jimmy Carter back in 1976.

If you squint, Obama sorta looks like Jimmy Carter with a tan.

But then, so does Hillary.

Mr. Gainsborough
posted 01-05-2008 03:58:52 AM
quote:
Mr. Parcelan had this to say about Reading Rainbow:
Clinton is an old-school fascist.

Heh.

Kinanik
Upset about being titless
posted 01-05-2008 04:07:49 PM
Wyoming Goppers voted today; 12 delegates available
7 to Mitt
2 to Duncan Hunter
2 to Fred Thompson
1 to McCain
Gully Foyle is my name
And Terra is my nation
Deep space is my dwelling place
The stars my destination
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