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Maradon!
posted 07-11-2007 09:46:52 PM
So I got me a new job today. Full time, the works, absolutely a step forward. Awesome!

But then the owner told me that tomorrow at 8am I'd be driving to ohio to install some wireless routers for a client.

Driving to ohio.

Driving. to. ohio.

"What's so bad about that?" you ask. After all, I've driven to south carolina right?

Thing about me is that while I'm a fairly capable driver, I can't navigate. Note that I did not say that I can't navigate well: I can't navigate at all. Even with directions. Even with a map. Even with mapquest directions (especially with mapquest directions). I will get lost going to places that people believe that I should know how to go. Whoever you are reading this, if you found yourself in the middle of a completely unfamiliar city and were told to find your way somewhere, you would probably get there faster and get lost fewer times than I would in my home town.

Whatever bone is in people's heads that lets them instinctually find their way from point A to a previously unknown point B is absent from me.

How exactly do people learn this shit, and how did I miss that particular boat? Is it just that I think wrong? What sort of advice could possibly help me find my way from an unfamiliar place to another unfamiliar place by way of a car? Is there a directions database out there better than mapquest?

Maradon! fucked around with this message on 07-11-2007 at 09:49 PM.

Delphi Aegis
Delphi. That's right. The oracle. Ask me anything. Anything about your underwear.
posted 07-11-2007 09:50:54 PM
What exactly is it of mapquest directions that confuse you?

I always found them to be pretty clear, along with going over what the route looks like from overhead always helped me kind of get a picture in my mind of what I was going to be driving through.

Skaw
posted 07-11-2007 09:54:49 PM
google maps dawg.
Maradon!
posted 07-11-2007 10:01:28 PM
quote:
x--Delphi AegisO-('-'Q) :
What exactly is it of mapquest directions that confuse you?

I always found them to be pretty clear, along with going over what the route looks like from overhead always helped me kind of get a picture in my mind of what I was going to be driving through.


The route they give you sucks, a lot. They add a billion fucking unnecessary turns and back roads. The mapquest route to my new job has me take one exit and follow backroads for like fifteen turns, but if you just stay on the parkway for ONE MORE EXIT you can get right off onto the road that the company is on.

As far as translating overhead maps to real life driving, I can't do that in any capacity.

Arttemis
Not Squire... but a guitar!
posted 07-11-2007 10:02:20 PM
I am exactly the same way. I keep thinking that I should splurge for one of those GPS units that talk to you and tell you which way to go.
Delphi Aegis
Delphi. That's right. The oracle. Ask me anything. Anything about your underwear.
posted 07-11-2007 10:03:18 PM
quote:
This insanity brought to you by Maradon!:
The route they give you sucks, a lot. They add a billion fucking unnecessary turns and back roads. The mapquest route to my new job has me take one exit and follow backroads for like fifteen turns, but if you just stay on the parkway for ONE MORE EXIT you can get right off onto the road that the company is on.

As far as translating overhead maps to real life driving, I can't do that in any capacity.


Maybe you can try checking "Shortest route" or some other options in mapquest. A lot of the time, mapquest has you taking lesser travelled roads in order to avoid higher traffic areas, instead of direct routes. /shrug

Blackened
posted 07-11-2007 10:05:19 PM
Why not investigate the route a bit more thoroughly before setting out? Open Google Maps, check the directions it gives, and go over the more detailed sections to make sure it gives instructions that work for you.

Unless you're not worried enough to bother putting actual effort in avoiding your traveling woes and you figured an easy solution might pop up in this thread.


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what I'm about to do isn't personal.
Maradon!
posted 07-11-2007 10:11:22 PM
Yeah, I'm actually doing that right now and have been for about an hour.
Greenlit
posted 07-11-2007 10:12:07 PM
I was pretty shitty (actually horrible) at navigation until I moved to Florida. In Georgia very little of anything makes any fucking sense; roads don't run (more or less) straight North/South or East/West, street layouts and traffic signals seem entirely random, and it's "easier" to navigate by anecdotal directions than anything else.

But down here things are all mapped out in nice little squares and run along cardinal directions. In some places they use sequential numbers instead of impossible-to-remember names. All I have to do is keep track of which of four directions I'm traveling in and it's damn near impossible to get lost.

None of this means shit to you, of course, because it sounds like you drive with your vagina.

Talonus
Loner
posted 07-11-2007 10:12:43 PM
quote:
Arttemis thought this was the Ricky Martin Fan Club Forum and wrote:
I am exactly the same way. I keep thinking that I should splurge for one of those GPS units that talk to you and tell you which way to go.

They really aren't better than Mapquest or Google as they all use the same source information for the most part. The only benefit to GPS is easier rerouting of your path.

Maradon!
posted 07-11-2007 10:13:39 PM
I wish there was a "fewest turns" option in mapquest/google maps

quote:
Peanut butter ass Shaq Talonus booooze lime pole over bench lick:
They really aren't better than Mapquest or Google as they all use the same source information for the most part. The only benefit to GPS is easier rerouting of your path.

and they also tell you exactly where you are at any given moment. that makes all the difference really.

Maradon! fucked around with this message on 07-11-2007 at 10:14 PM.

Blackened
posted 07-11-2007 10:16:05 PM
quote:
Maradon!.
Yeah, I'm actually doing that right now and have been for about an hour.
Good man. I suppose the next step is a GPS unit investment, then. That is, if going over your route with a fine comb isn't doing the trick.

Although my distaste for you as a human being is brobdingnagian,
what I'm about to do isn't personal.
Talonus
Loner
posted 07-11-2007 10:16:49 PM
quote:
Maradon! had this to say about John Romero:
I wish there was a "fewest turns" option in mapquest/google maps

and they also tell you exactly where you are at any given moment. that makes all the difference really.


Many of them are actually pretty inaccurate about pinpointing your location unfortunately. It isn't something you should rely on unless you're really lost.

Suddar
posted 07-11-2007 10:53:46 PM
I'm pretty good with directions I guess. I just try to constantly visualize a map in my head, and try to keep a sense of the roads around me as I go past them. Before I learned to drive, I very much found my way around by landmarks, but making a mental note of roadways helps a lot more. When you know how the roads around you are laid out, you can kind of intuit new ways to get where you're going.

When driving in new areas, this doesn't help as much, but keeping a constant picture of where you are in your mind will still keep you from getting lost.

Big cities are even easier because you can orient yourself by watching the skyline, so long as you know a little bit where you are and where you're going.

Bloodsage
Heart Attack
posted 07-12-2007 02:16:17 AM
quote:
Verily, the chocolate bunny rabbits doth run and play while Talonus gently hums:
They really aren't better than Mapquest or Google as they all use the same source information for the most part. The only benefit to GPS is easier rerouting of your path.

There's the fact that they talk you through the route in real time. . . ?

Seriously, Maradon, these things are dirt cheap these days. Buy a talking GPS; some of the newer ones even have real-time traffic monitoring and can route you around accidents and traffic jams.

To reign is worth ambition, though in Hell:
Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven.

--Satan, quoted by John Milton

Tarquinn
Personally responsible for the decline of the American Dollar
posted 07-12-2007 02:25:10 AM
Yeah, navigation systems are pretty good and cheap these days.

Tarquinn fucked around with this message on 07-12-2007 at 02:25 AM.

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Mr. Gainsborough
posted 07-12-2007 02:29:11 AM
OrangeBrand
By a Truck
posted 07-12-2007 02:55:31 AM
Expedia.comis what I use.

It seems to be like all the others, I just tend to use this one the most.

I also had a car with GPS nav. built in. They work great, although the voice can get naggy.

SPELLCHECK is a four letter word.
Bloodsage
Heart Attack
posted 07-12-2007 03:01:01 AM
TomTom has downloadable gimmick voices--you can have John Cleese navigate for you!
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Callalron
Hires people with hooks
posted 07-12-2007 03:08:19 AM
I couldn't do that. I be laughing too damn hard at Cleese's voice and I'd end up getting lost or hitting something.
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OrangeBrand
By a Truck
posted 07-12-2007 04:08:06 AM
Hope you get something to help you out.

OrangeBrand fucked around with this message on 07-12-2007 at 04:09 AM.

SPELLCHECK is a four letter word.
Jajahotep
Vader to Deth's Obi-wan
posted 07-12-2007 05:05:53 AM
I think the biggest problem with mapquest/google maps is the fact they don't get updated frequently enough. When moving to SC, they put me smack in the middle of town 15 minutes from my home because the house "didn't exist" and the trip took an extra hour if I had gone a slightly different route. And with Google earth our house is still just a peach orchard (hasn't been for four years).

But anyway.. I'd get a GPS device to help you out with the map situation. My better half has Earthmate GPS by DeLorme that has Street Atlas 2007 (and 2008 apaprently) as part of his spy toys and he says it's an extremely nice toy. He likes the fact that he can have it plugged into his laptop.

Talonus
Loner
posted 07-12-2007 06:22:10 AM
quote:
Bloodsage thought this was the Ricky Martin Fan Club Forum and wrote:
There's the fact that they talk you through the route in real time. . . ?

Seriously, Maradon, these things are dirt cheap these days. Buy a talking GPS; some of the newer ones even have real-time traffic monitoring and can route you around accidents and traffic jams.


I guess a couple bad experiences in the past kinda burned me on these back when they weren't using the up-to-date maps. Issues with the GPS saying to go one way when the road didn't actually exist or the thing giving bad directions.

Pvednes
Lynched
posted 07-12-2007 06:29:35 AM
Get a map, a sheet of paper, and a pen.

Plot a route, write down the road names and which way you turn on each of them on that bit of paper.

Take it with you when you drive there. Ye'cann'missit!

Aaron (the good one)
posted 07-12-2007 06:54:54 AM
Get on the I-96 until you see "Ohio exit"
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Mortious
Gluttonous Overlard
posted 07-12-2007 08:04:26 AM
I just coughed up for the GPS and have never looked back. It's fucking awesome. Even rewrites itself if you take the wrong exit.
`Doc
Cold in an Alley
posted 07-12-2007 08:04:49 AM
In areas where you have to go a long distance between turns, note the major streets shortly before and shortly after your turn. It's always helpful to have cues for when you need to get in the right/left lane for your turn, and an indication that you've gone too far can save you from an hour of extra driving. As others have mentioned, a good GPS covers this for you, and provides adjusted routes if you miss a turn (or if that turn doesn't exist, is blocked by construction, etc). Personally I don't use a GPS, but I can generally navigate pretty well with maps and driving directions.
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Bloodsage
Heart Attack
posted 07-12-2007 08:06:07 AM
quote:
Channeling the spirit of Sherlock Holmes, Pvednes absently fondled Watson and proclaimed:
Get a map, a sheet of paper, and a pen.

Plot a route, write down the road names and which way you turn on each of them on that bit of paper.

Take it with you when you drive there. Ye'cann'missit!


Another good technique is to note the major landmark before where you need to turn, to take some of the pressure off.

To reign is worth ambition, though in Hell:
Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven.

--Satan, quoted by John Milton

Blindy.
Suicide (Also: Gay.)
posted 07-12-2007 08:39:43 AM
Where abouts in Ohio?

East buttfuck?

Aaron (the good one)
posted 07-12-2007 11:05:00 AM
The only good place in Ohio is Sandusky
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Azakias
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posted 07-12-2007 11:15:54 AM
Hey, I'm going to Ohio for leave in about 2 and a half weeks.

Yay Ohio.

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Aaron (the good one)
posted 07-12-2007 11:22:12 AM
bunch of friends and myself are headed down to Cedar Point Aug 29th-31st
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Karnaj
Road Warrior Queef
posted 07-12-2007 11:22:39 AM
Like, for fun?
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Beer.

Steven Steve
posted 07-12-2007 11:44:37 AM
There is nothing in Ohio

There are not even any grocery stores

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Aaron (the good one)
posted 07-12-2007 11:56:28 AM
quote:
Oh Karnaj. Oh Karnaj! Oh Karnaj!!;
Like, for fun?

Cedar Point rocks ok

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Steven Steve
posted 07-12-2007 12:05:12 PM
There are rides and scantily clad women

and fudge

and 50s themed restaurants

"Absolutely NOTHING [will stop me from buying Diablo III]. I will buy it regardless of what they do."
- Grawbad, Battle.net forums

"Don't want to sound like a fanboy, but I am with you. I'll buy it for sure, it's just a matter of for how long I will be playing it..."
- Silvast, Battle.net forums

Aaron (the good one)
posted 07-12-2007 12:20:09 PM
quote:
That damn dirty Stalwart Steve rudely interrupted me to say;
There are rides and scantily clad women

and fudge

and 50s themed restaurants


what more can you ask for?

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Aaron (the good one)
posted 07-12-2007 12:20:32 PM
quote:
Sam Watkins stopped masturbating to porn to say;
what more can you ask for?

also there are rumors of a certain asian person coming with us.

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Steven Steve
posted 07-12-2007 12:25:50 PM
George Takei?
"Absolutely NOTHING [will stop me from buying Diablo III]. I will buy it regardless of what they do."
- Grawbad, Battle.net forums

"Don't want to sound like a fanboy, but I am with you. I'll buy it for sure, it's just a matter of for how long I will be playing it..."
- Silvast, Battle.net forums

Karnaj
Road Warrior Queef
posted 07-12-2007 12:30:03 PM
quote:
Aw, geez, I have Stalwart Steve all over myself!
George Takei?

No, he's going to be on Howard Stern next week.

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