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Topic: ""Must-have" PC games of the last two years?
Tarquinn
Personally responsible for the decline of the American Dollar
posted 06-21-2007 04:55:42 AM
Thanks to my old, but now replaced, PC I have missed out on alot of state of the art PC games and must-have(played) titles.

As my memory has more holes in it than my socks, I kindly ask the PC-gamers of this board for help. Which PC games of the last two years do I have buy?


Already on my list:
- Civilization IV (I'll wait till the new expansion is released)
- Half-Life 2 (waiting for episode II)
- Medieval II

~Never underestimate the power of a Dark Clown.
Mr. Parcelan
posted 06-21-2007 05:08:14 AM
All the Dawn of War series.
Tarquinn
Personally responsible for the decline of the American Dollar
posted 06-21-2007 05:11:26 AM
Thanks, but I managed to get that running on my old PC. Great game.
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Mr. Parcelan
posted 06-21-2007 05:12:23 AM
It's been a pretty light year for PCs, hasn't it? There's not much "must-have" out there yet.

S.T.A.L.K.E.R. is kind of neat, I hear.

OrangeBrand
By a Truck
posted 06-21-2007 05:14:53 AM
Other then the ones you named, I can't think of anything great. I am so tired of the same old games I went back to playing Simcity4...
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Tarquinn
Personally responsible for the decline of the American Dollar
posted 06-21-2007 05:18:32 AM
Ah, I keep forgetting about STALKER. Think I'll get that this weekend.

What about F.E.A.R. and Oblivion?

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Rodent King
Stabbed in the Eye
posted 06-21-2007 05:25:25 AM
Don't forget Bioshock coming out soon!
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Tarquinn
Personally responsible for the decline of the American Dollar
posted 06-21-2007 05:26:27 AM
I won't, but I'm kinda enquiring about games I can buy right now.
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Bloodsage
Heart Attack
posted 06-21-2007 05:27:02 AM
Oblivion was okay, but a huge disappointment after Morrowind. They "corrected" all the things that made the original engaging.

I played the demo of Fear on the 360, and it didn't do much for me. To be honest, I'm burnt out on the whole concept of playing games in the dark. YMMV.

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Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven.

--Satan, quoted by John Milton

Khyron
Hello, my mushy friend...
posted 06-21-2007 08:25:52 AM
Oblivion and Stalker I found enjoyable, but mostly after modding them both quite a bit. I tried FEAR but I just couldn't really get into it. Definitely looking forwards to the Civ4 Beyond the Sword addon. When is that due out?
Tier
posted 06-21-2007 08:45:12 AM
Thief 3 is a must if not already done, it's a bit older but still great.

FEAR, Chronicles of Riddick, Prey, Quake 4, Serious Sam 2, Splinter Cell Double Agent. None of them worth a full retail price, but definitely worth picking up if seen at bargain bin.

Don't you get wacko laws with blood censorship?

Steven Steve
posted 06-21-2007 09:29:41 AM
Man I hated the Serious Sam 2 ending. They even acknowledged themselves that it was a piece of shit, haha.
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Tarquinn
Personally responsible for the decline of the American Dollar
posted 06-21-2007 09:44:16 AM
quote:
Asha'man stumbled drunkenly to the keyboard and typed:

Don't you get wacko laws with blood censorship?


Kinda, yes. It is not about blood only, but about unecessary violence. Here's an okay summary, here's the offical and better homepage of the federal department that is responsible for the "bannings".

Usually, I have no problem with it, as games which are "banned" aren't really banned, they just cannot be sold to minors (17 and below in Germany). I don't even know when a major title has been "banned" here in the Germany the last time. (Most likely C&C: Generals, which then came back in a robotized (see below) version two months later which isn't banned.) Of course that's usually a death blow for a game anyway.

Because of that most publishers make minor adjustments to their games for the German market, like removing unecessary fountains of blood from FPSs or ragdoll physics. You cannot staple your enemies to a wall in FEAR with that railgun, for example.

Sometimes the changes are quite absurd. For examnple the nuclear missile in C&C3 has been renamed Aurora Missile in the German version, and Nod fanatcis do not blow themselves up, but instead run to their target, drop their bomb and run away.

In the past human enemies have also very often been replaced with robots. No death screams, black instead of red "blood" and cool crunching noise when you roll over them in the old C&C games. It was stupid most of the time, but didn't really hurt the games.

Violence is bad.

At least we got Delphi from Giants: Citizen Kabuto in a bra-less version, and you did not.

Germans are lovers, not fighters.

We like to pretend that at least.

The End.

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Steven Steve
posted 06-21-2007 10:39:11 AM
The nipples are the bad part.
"Absolutely NOTHING [will stop me from buying Diablo III]. I will buy it regardless of what they do."
- Grawbad, Battle.net forums

"Don't want to sound like a fanboy, but I am with you. I'll buy it for sure, it's just a matter of for how long I will be playing it..."
- Silvast, Battle.net forums

Blackened
posted 06-21-2007 10:58:33 AM
- Civilization IV / No opinion, haven't played
- Half-Life 2 / Must play
- Medieval II / No opinion, haven't played
- STALKER / Horrible pacing, horrible graphics engine, lackluster plot, suggest to avoid
- FEAR / Mindless but pretty visual effects tied together with a transparent and ultimately optional plot, occasional attempts at scares.
- Oblivion / Worth buying now, especially with all the amazing mods. If you have an SA account, check the Oblivion subforum
- Chronicles of Riddick / Worth playing at bargain price.
- Prey / Dumb game. Bad characters, worse plot, boring uninspired mechanics. Avoid.
- Quake 4 / See Prey
- Serious Sam 2 / Mindless fun, especially awesome for Co-ops and LANs.
- Splinter Cell Double Agent / No opinion.

Titan's Quest plus the expansion are good if you're looking for a Diablo-esqe game.


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what I'm about to do isn't personal.
Elvish Crack Piper
Murder is justified so long as people believe in something different than you do
posted 06-21-2007 12:18:03 PM
My readme file of Giants: Citizen Kabuto told me which file on my hard drive to remove the bra. Even worked in the demo version.
(Insert Funny Phrase Here)
Maradon!
posted 06-21-2007 05:41:08 PM
Giants: Citizen Kabuto is one of those games that there really should have been more of.
Ragabash
Pancake
posted 06-21-2007 06:45:32 PM
Company of Heroes was pretty good, I thought.
Feed my hungry soul.
Maradon!
posted 06-21-2007 07:53:31 PM
I bought stalker last week and it seems like a fun game but for two things:

It runs like absolute shit even on low settings, and it crashes after 15 minutes or so for absolutely no goddamn reason.

Also, THQ's support is absolutely fucking dismal.

Greenlit
posted 06-21-2007 09:00:31 PM
Dawn of War is one of those games I can never get enough of.
Company of Heroes is sweet and all but meh. Supreme Commander will be a must-have next year when computer hardware catches up to its demands.

Comedy option Halo 2.

Mortious
Gluttonous Overlard
posted 06-21-2007 09:17:46 PM
Stay away from STALKER. Just stay away. Another case of an overzelous design doc.
Mortious
Gluttonous Overlard
posted 06-21-2007 09:42:28 PM
quote:
Maradon! said:
Giants: Citizen Kabuto is one of those games that there really should have been more of.

I found it too hard. Maybe I just sucked at it. It was really, really, hard.

Tarquinn
Personally responsible for the decline of the American Dollar
posted 06-22-2007 02:09:50 AM
Why does my Delphi pic not show up?!

OMGZ CENS0RSHIP!!11


Anyway, I'll give STALKER a chance. I've found that I really like games that Mort despises (C&C3, NWN2, and a third one I cannot remember right now).


Thank you all for your input!

Tarquinn fucked around with this message on 06-22-2007 at 02:10 AM.

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Maradon!
posted 06-22-2007 03:07:03 AM
I run supreme commander fine in large scale battles on the biggest maps, but stalker grinds my shit to a halt, especially when lighting is involved. Lightning just struck? 2fps. 2 military guys with flashlights? 2fps. Eight guys? one or two frames per minute, if the game doesn't crash.

And yeah, I do have the settings turned down - shadow detail is at it's lowest and I'm running at 1024x768

Maradon! fucked around with this message on 06-22-2007 at 03:07 AM.

Mortious
Gluttonous Overlard
posted 06-22-2007 08:29:18 AM
I could run STALKER with all options at max (8800GTS ftw) and it still looked like crap. Like something from 2000.
Tarquinn
Personally responsible for the decline of the American Dollar
posted 06-22-2007 08:57:50 AM
I just remembered that I own the whole Splinter Cell series and that I haven't played it yet. What's better for playing Splinter Cell; keyboard and mouse, or a joypad (X-Box 360)?

Does it even matter?

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Mr. Parcelan
posted 06-22-2007 09:24:30 AM
quote:
Tarquinn thought this was the Ricky Martin Fan Club Forum and wrote:
I just remembered that I own the whole Splinter Cell series and that I haven't played it yet. What's better for playing Splinter Cell; keyboard and mouse, or a joypad (X-Box 360)?

Does it even matter?


If they're anything like the Tenchu series (and I've heard that they are), it usually relies on slow, deliberate movements coupled with the occasional quick-thinking, such as sneaking up on someone, killing them, then moving their bodies.

Maybe keypads work better for you.

Steven Steve
posted 06-22-2007 10:15:23 AM
The mouse makes aiming 500 times easier in the games, almost to the point that you could play them as action games.
"Absolutely NOTHING [will stop me from buying Diablo III]. I will buy it regardless of what they do."
- Grawbad, Battle.net forums

"Don't want to sound like a fanboy, but I am with you. I'll buy it for sure, it's just a matter of for how long I will be playing it..."
- Silvast, Battle.net forums

Tier
posted 06-22-2007 03:08:56 PM
quote:
Tarquinn enlisted the help of an infinite number of monkeys to write:
I just remembered that I own the whole Splinter Cell series and that I haven't played it yet. What's better for playing Splinter Cell; keyboard and mouse, or a joypad (X-Box 360)?

Does it even matter?


It depends. Pandora Tomorrow's PC controls sucked. Chaos Theory's were great. By the looks of it Double Agent's are sucking once again, but they didn't bother making a PC engine that doesn't blow gonads so I didn't really get to see anything other than my 10fps with quad SLI.

Asha'man fucked around with this message on 06-22-2007 at 03:09 PM.

Azakias
Never wore the pants, thus still wields the power of unused (_|_)
posted 06-23-2007 10:40:15 AM
Dreamfall was kickass. Too bad it was half a game.
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Mortious
Gluttonous Overlard
posted 06-23-2007 11:25:19 AM
quote:
Stalwart Steve said:
The mouse makes aiming 500 times easier in the games

How I wish I had a mouse for Gears of War.

I'm getting used to it but damn.. it's hard.

Skaw
posted 06-23-2007 04:08:02 PM
quote:
Everyone wondered WTF when Mortious wrote:
How I wish I had a mouse for Gears of War.

I'm getting used to it but damn.. it's hard.


It eventually becomes second nature.

Elvish Crack Piper
Murder is justified so long as people believe in something different than you do
posted 06-24-2007 03:31:08 AM
I remember when I first tried to play a shooter on the N64.

Was like trying to jack off with a claw machine.

(Insert Funny Phrase Here)
Maradon!
posted 06-24-2007 06:21:41 PM
Third person shooters are actually a great deal nicer with console control schemes. Gears of War is one example, but I really think Lost Planet did it very well. You were able to run in one direction and shoot in another, there was no "snap-on" auto-aiming but at the same time it was not very difficult to make highly accurate shots.
Tarquinn
Personally responsible for the decline of the American Dollar
posted 06-25-2007 09:41:20 AM
Aargh, someome please explain me how the "ferry" command works in Supreme Commander.

Yep, got SC last Saturday. Got it cheap together with a free Dawn of War copy, which I now can give away. It's fun, and although it really feels like an updated Total Annihilation, it's not quite as "soulless".

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Tarquinn
Personally responsible for the decline of the American Dollar
posted 06-25-2007 09:48:52 AM
Anyone up for a multiplayer game next weekend or so?

Don't expect anything from me challengewise. I suck.

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Bloodsage
Heart Attack
posted 06-25-2007 10:25:54 AM
I might be able to--sounds like we're well matched, heh.
To reign is worth ambition, though in Hell:
Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven.

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Falaanla Marr
I AM HOT CHIX
posted 06-25-2007 11:08:11 AM
I might be able to join in too. Would "Not having played at all yet" be at the right skill level?
Greenlit
posted 06-25-2007 08:01:12 PM
quote:
So quoth Tarquinn:
Aargh, someome please explain me how the "ferry" command works in Supreme Commander.

Move all your transports to where you want the ferry to begin; that is, where your ground units will move to get picked up. From there select them all, press Ferry, and then on the ground units' intended destination.

They should idle around either hovering or on the ground while they wait. Give your ground units a Move order onto the little Pinkish-Purple ferry icon and they will move to it, then be automatically carried to the end position by the transports.

Holding shift you can queue them up to do shit (including anything built from a ferry) automatically once they land, like attack-moving or patrolling, just as easily as it was a normal Movement waypoint.

It is an awesome system.

Mortious
Gluttonous Overlard
posted 06-25-2007 08:17:19 PM
quote:
Greenlit said:
It is an awesome system.

Except when you assign other transports to assist the ferry one.. and that one gets destroyed.. the other ones just mill around aimlessly in the sky until you realise everything has gone tits up.

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