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Uhm... either you blizzard AOE "kite" or you don't...So just one point in those two talents won't do much.
Winters chill is allright..but not needed. Dave fucked around with this message on 06-11-2007 at 02:10 AM.
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Mightion Defensoring:
I used Winter's Chill for five months in both PvE and PvP situations and I honestly couldn't see a difference in crit rate whether it was stacked five times or zero.
You know this is pretty much wrong, right?
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Maradon! fell asleep and read just about every paragraph.
You know this is pretty much wrong, right?
"Wrong"?
All I said was I used it for five months and didn't notice a difference. But then again, I don't crunch every number that scrolls through my combat log.
I didn't tell him to take it; I didn't tell him not to take it; I just related my experience with Winter's Chill.
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But for PvP/Solo and small group PVE you might get by on shatter/frostbite and no winter's chill just fine. 60% crit rate and 70% crit rate don't make much of a visible difference. Blindy. fucked around with this message on 06-11-2007 at 03:59 PM.
I found Magic Absorption and Improved CS to be more worth the points... but then, I haven't been on any big raids with this char yet.
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Mightion Defensor + Mightion Defensor = 2Mightion Defensor:
* shrug *I found Magic Absorption and Improved CS to be more worth the points... but then, I haven't been on any big raids with this char yet.
It's a min-maxing thing, I guess. Maybe my language was a bit strong.
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Blindy. had this to say about Pirotess:
It's a min-maxing thing, I guess. Maybe my language was a bit strong.
Frost needs all the help it can get to not be terrible DPS.
Get Winter's Chill.
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Frost needs all the help it can get to not be terrible DPS.Get Winter's Chill.
I'm pretty sure I'm going full Frost. I think having all the deep frost talents is a bit more valuable than clearcasting.
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I'm pretty sure I'm going full Frost. I think having all the deep frost talents is a bit more valuable than clearcasting.
You're an idiot.
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I'm pretty sure I'm going full Frost. I think having all the deep frost talents is a bit more valuable than clearcasting.
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=Rf0VZZVAGcofxowqt
This is what I'd do if I wanted a PvE deep frost build. You still get all the frosty goodies with shatter and frostbite while being able to pick up all the raid talents.
Having 4/5 Winter's Chill instead of 5/5 won't make a difference on any fight long enough for Winter's Chill to become a big factor.
If you're serious about raiding, though, you really should be going with a 10/48/3, 33/28, or 40/21 setup depending on your gear. Taeldian fucked around with this message on 06-13-2007 at 03:41 PM.
Doing good dps with a frost mage in pve raids is possable... its hard and you have to be skilled but it is doable. I shot up from the 3/5 dps slot to the 1/2 slots. Thanks again! Dave fucked around with this message on 06-13-2007 at 06:47 PM.
Always up for hearing tips and such though about what might work better.
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My Mage's build is this right now, having just hit level 70. I've been deep Frost for quite a long time though and I enjoy it.Always up for hearing tips and such though about what might work better.
That looks good. You may want to move 5 from magic absorption to arctic winds, but that depends on how good your resist gear is.
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That looks good. You may want to move 5 from magic absorption to arctic winds, but that depends on how good your resist gear is.
I seem to resist often enough to make the investment worthwhile... not to mention it makes massacring lower level caster mobs for fun and profit that much easier... more mana back = less downtime.
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Doing good dps with a frost mage in pve raids is possable... its hard and you have to be skilled but it is doable. I shot up from the 3/5 dps slot to the 1/2 slots. Thanks again!
Your damage is, of course, relative to the people around you. If you can beat everyone as a deep frost spec, an arc/fire or deep fire spec would put you way ahead of the next closest person.
