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Topic: Espresso machines
nem-x
posted 05-24-2007 11:17:57 PM
Looking for a good espresso machine with a milk frother; already have a burr grinder so it doesn't need to have that built in.
Mr. Gainsborough
posted 05-24-2007 11:21:57 PM
Espresso is a pretty good kind of coffee. Yeah.
nem-x
posted 05-24-2007 11:22:53 PM
I want my cafe mochas and I want them now
Mr. Gainsborough
posted 05-24-2007 11:24:32 PM
I think 7-11 has them for like maybe a dollar. Or like a dollar twenty.
nem-x
posted 05-24-2007 11:29:35 PM
it tastes like the powder mix cappucino
Mr. Gainsborough
posted 05-24-2007 11:31:03 PM
I think that is pretty good i dunno.
nem-x
posted 05-24-2007 11:33:22 PM
Blackened
posted 05-24-2007 11:35:41 PM

Although my distaste for you as a human being is brobdingnagian,
what I'm about to do isn't personal.
Demos
Pancake
posted 05-24-2007 11:40:04 PM
My sis got me one of the Krups ones for xmas and its worked pretty well so far. The plastic is kind of a turn-off, but its done its job. Has a frother, and it can make my super strong espresso, so I'm happy. I think the model number is FND1. Just make sure that whatever you get allows you to use your own grinds/beans (an electric grinder is also a nice addition to your coffee making set and can be had for relatively cheap; I use a mr. Coffee grinder that has settings for regular grinds or extra fine espresso grinds). Do not, under any circumstances, get one that requires you to buy the brand's "pods" or anything.
"Jesus saves, Buddha enlightens, Cthulhu thinks you'll make a nice sandwich."
Vernaltemptress
Withered and Alone
posted 05-25-2007 01:05:43 AM
Get a french press.
Obamanomics: spend, tax, and borrow.
Maradon!
posted 05-25-2007 01:43:30 AM
quote:
Vernaltemptressing:
Get a french press.

sounds like a basketball strategy

(seriously though, I have one but I don't think they make espresso let alone have a milk foamer do they?)

Demos
Pancake
posted 05-25-2007 01:47:51 AM
A press is also more effort. When you're stumbling half-awake around the apartment, running late for a class, you appreciate the simplicity of a steam-powered espresso machine
"Jesus saves, Buddha enlightens, Cthulhu thinks you'll make a nice sandwich."
Inferno-Spirit
Sports Advocate
posted 05-25-2007 02:19:47 AM
quote:
And I was all like 'Oh yeah?' and Maradon! was all like:
sounds like a basketball strategy

(seriously though, I have one but I don't think they make espresso let alone have a milk foamer do they?)


I want to get one, but I wasn't sure on the quality. I've heard good things on TV and shit. How is it?

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Bloodsage
Heart Attack
posted 05-25-2007 04:10:19 AM
A decent espresso machine will run $$$. The plastic Krups and most of the other cheaper ones simply don't make real espresso because they can't produce the pressures necessary.

I have a FrancisFrancis! X1 in cool pop-culture orange, and like it a lot, though the milk-frothing attachment could be better placed. Here's a nice link that explains what to consider.

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Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven.

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Maradon!
posted 05-25-2007 04:14:37 AM
quote:
x--Inferno-SpiritO-('-'Q) :
I want to get one, but I wasn't sure on the quality. I've heard good things on TV and shit. How is it?

Oh, it makes unbelievable coffee. AND it's low maintenance. When you wake up in the morning and you're stumbling about, I swear it just feels easier to drop some grinds and water in one than to measure out and fill up a drip brew.

Karnaj
Road Warrior Queef
posted 05-25-2007 06:21:27 AM
Check Youtube for the Good Eats episode on Espresso. He gives a pretty good rundown of what you want in a machine.
That's the American Dream: to make your life into something you can sell. - Chuck Palahniuk, Haunted

Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite. - John Kenneth Galbraith



Beer.

nem-x
posted 05-25-2007 06:21:56 AM
I've been looking at the Saeco Aroma/Classico. One up on ebay for $250. From a retail dealer its $300 for a black one which looks like ass or $350 for the stainless steel.
Blackened
posted 05-25-2007 06:24:57 AM
Why do you drink expresso?

I mean I haven't had it in a while and I remember it tasting bad. What's the easiest way to procure a cup of some good expresso?


Although my distaste for you as a human being is brobdingnagian,
what I'm about to do isn't personal.
nem-x
posted 05-25-2007 06:29:12 AM
Mix the espresso with steamed milk for a latte or cappucino or mocha or whatever

I don't think I would like straight up espresso since I dislike black coffee.

Cherveny
Papaya
posted 05-25-2007 06:34:27 AM
My brother has the Starbucks brand espresso maker (the ones you can buy from their shops). It does give good espresso, but is costly as well.
Blackened
posted 05-25-2007 06:36:39 AM
quote:
Cherveny.
Starbucks... costly...

Although my distaste for you as a human being is brobdingnagian,
what I'm about to do isn't personal.
Mortious
Gluttonous Overlard
posted 05-25-2007 06:57:36 AM
quote:
Bloodsage said:
The plastic Krups and most of the other cheaper ones simply don't make real espresso because they can't produce the pressures necessary.

Not all of the plastic ones are crap, I personally own a Nescafe Dolce Gusto and it's the only fairly cheap one that can produce professional-scale pressure. Their entire marketing campaign is based around that fact.

You don't get any of the fancy milk frothing equipment on it. You just get coffee, in pods, like invasion of the bodysnatchers. But it's damn good stuff.

nem-x
posted 05-25-2007 07:04:23 AM
quote:
Karnaj spewed forth this undeniable truth:
Check Youtube for the Good Eats episode on Espresso. He gives a pretty good rundown of what you want in a machine.

Awesome. It looks like the machine he chose was the one im looking at.

Blindy.
Suicide (Also: Gay.)
posted 05-25-2007 08:41:09 AM
Alton Brown rox0r my b0x0r.
Karnaj
Road Warrior Queef
posted 05-25-2007 09:02:57 AM
He's a fairly wise fellow, though I wholeheartedly disagree with his stance on putting mayonnaise on hamburger buns to keep them from getting soggy. Yech.
That's the American Dream: to make your life into something you can sell. - Chuck Palahniuk, Haunted

Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite. - John Kenneth Galbraith



Beer.

nem-x
posted 05-25-2007 09:04:09 AM
Blindy.
Suicide (Also: Gay.)
posted 05-25-2007 09:15:37 AM
quote:
Man, who wouldn't want to be Karnaj:
He's a fairly wise fellow, though I wholeheartedly disagree with his stance on putting mayonnaise on hamburger buns to keep them from getting soggy. Yech.

Well, there are other methods, such as toasting the bun, but if you want to keep water and other moisture's out of a bread you've got to put on an oil/fat layer.

nem-x
posted 05-25-2007 09:15:40 AM
Also I love amazon.com because they offer bigger sales on items you already bought and they'll refund the difference in about 5 minutes after sending them a message about it.
Maradon!
posted 05-25-2007 03:21:20 PM
quote:
Peanut butter ass Shaq Karnaj booooze lime pole over bench lick:
He's a fairly wise fellow, though I wholeheartedly disagree with his stance on putting mayonnaise on hamburger buns to keep them from getting soggy. Yech.

Mayo on a hamburger is absolutely goddamn delicious.

Karnaj
Road Warrior Queef
posted 05-25-2007 03:33:10 PM
Listen, I like hippo semen as much as the next man, but I feel that mayo interferes with the absorption of those delicious burger juices into the bun. See, I prefer using larger buns with firmer crusts. These offer ample material for absorption of the burger's flavor via its juices, while firmer outer crust resists soaking and adds is own subtle flavor to the overall culinary experience. Also, these more robust buns enable the eater to take full advantage of other added hamburger ingredients, like tomatoes, pickles, lettuce, and so forth. The hard crust resists deformation during consumption, while the interior easily yields before the additions and maintains its absorptive qualities.
That's the American Dream: to make your life into something you can sell. - Chuck Palahniuk, Haunted

Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite. - John Kenneth Galbraith



Beer.

Maradon!
posted 05-25-2007 03:59:34 PM
I don't like a bun that I need to struggle with and I really gain no satisfaction from knowing that the bun is soaked with juices. Quite the contrary I am usually displeased with bread that becomes soggy in any manner.

Moreover I use the mayo for taste rather than texture. It as a richness that cannot be achieved with mere cheese alone.

Skaw
posted 05-25-2007 05:15:37 PM
quote:
Maradon! thought this was the Ricky Martin Fan Club Forum and wrote:
Mayo on a hamburger is absolutely goddamn delicious.

I think I can agree with you on this one.

Demos
Pancake
posted 05-25-2007 10:28:07 PM
I'm not much of a mayo fan on burgers, but its damn near essential in keeping most grilled chicken sandwiches from being too dry.
"Jesus saves, Buddha enlightens, Cthulhu thinks you'll make a nice sandwich."
Monica
I've got an owie on my head :(
posted 05-27-2007 11:56:29 AM
Wow I work at Starbucks and I totally missed this thread.

P.S. Espresso con panna FTW.

Monica fucked around with this message on 05-27-2007 at 11:59 AM.

Monica
I've got an owie on my head :(
posted 05-27-2007 12:26:40 PM
In the Good Eats thing, he waited til the shots went bad to hold them up to the camera. =\ You should be able to see the crema, the body, and the heart. If it's black, the shot is already dead.

And my barista skillz laugh at the way he steams milk. =\ If you wait until 160 to start aerating the milk/creating foam, you'll scald the foam and it will taste like butt (maybe this is why I get so many prissy customers who ask for no foam, I don't know.) At work I use steam wands that come with an auto shut off, and they stop at about 165 on their own, but I was taught that the minimum you can steam milk without making yourself sick is 140, and the max without the milk starting to scald is about 185.

Cherveny
Papaya
posted 05-27-2007 03:14:12 PM
quote:
Monica had this to say about Captain Planet:
In the Good Eats thing, he waited til the shots went bad to hold them up to the camera. =\ You should be able to see the crema, the body, and the heart. If it's black, the shot is already dead.

And my barista skillz laugh at the way he steams milk. =\ If you wait until 160 to start aerating the milk/creating foam, you'll scald the foam and it will taste like butt (maybe this is why I get so many prissy customers who ask for no foam, I don't know.) At work I use steam wands that come with an auto shut off, and they stop at about 165 on their own, but I was taught that the minimum you can steam milk without making yourself sick is 140, and the max without the milk starting to scald is about 185.


I've always found the skills or lack of skills of the barristas at a coffee shop usually make all the difference as to whether the drinks will taste any good or not. There are so many small shops that obviously don't train their workers very consistantly, and thus one barrista will end up making great drinks, whereas another barrista at the same shop will make crap.

nem-x
posted 05-27-2007 07:02:52 PM
your barista skills are rubbish!
Palador ChibiDragon
Dismembered
posted 05-28-2007 03:14:42 PM
quote:
This one time, at Cherveny camp:
I've always found the skills or lack of skills of the barristas at a coffee shop usually make all the difference as to whether the drinks will taste any good or not. There are so many small shops that obviously don't train their workers very consistantly, and thus one barrista will end up making great drinks, whereas another barrista at the same shop will make crap.

So, if one wanted to learn the proper skills for this, where would one turn?

I believe in the existance of magic, not because I have seen proof of its existance, but because I refuse to live in a world where it does not exist.
Skaw
posted 05-28-2007 06:14:28 PM
quote:
We were all impressed when Palador ChibiDragon wrote:
So, if one wanted to learn the proper skills for this, where would one turn?

Oh, misread, nevermind.

Practice. Practice. Practice. Drink what you make.

Skaw fucked around with this message on 05-28-2007 at 06:18 PM.

Steven Steve
posted 05-28-2007 07:16:58 PM
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