Chinese people evolved from yellow monkies
White people ...
Notice how skin color generally relates to a culture's climate? Yeah, that's not a coincidence. Same with stuff like sickle-cell anemia. That's evolution, baby.
At least, that's the way I understand it.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
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Bloodsageing:
Actually, there's no such thing as race in any meaningful biological sense. At least according to the smart folks who decoded the human genome.
What he said.
We're all humans and that's the end of it. Some humans are brown and some humans are beige. "Race" as we know it is an arbitrary social construct based on meaningless physical characteristics.. Maradon! fucked around with this message on 04-29-2007 at 05:44 PM.
I think that's about right, eh?
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Delidgamond got all f'ed up on Angel Dust and wrote:
Black people evolved from black monkiesChinese people evolved from yellow monkies
White people ...
White people are white because they are pure.
Alidane fucked around with this message on 04-29-2007 at 07:42 PM.
why are people different colors?
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Verily, the chocolate bunny rabbits doth run and play while Gadani gently hums:
ok sorry for terminology.why are people different colors?
For the same reason some people have blond hair and some have brown, some people have blue eyes and some have green. Skin color is exactly as meaningful as that, meaning not at all.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
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There was much rejoicing when Bloodsage said this:
For the same reason some people have blond hair and some have brown, some people have blue eyes and some have green. Skin color is exactly as meaningful as that, meaning not at all.
You're trying to turn this into some sort of morality debate, when he's just asking what the reason for it is.
No, I don't know, I'm just getting irritated by this because just because the question has to do with race it's instantly treated as a racist question.
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Verily, the chocolate bunny rabbits doth run and play while Mr. Gainsborough gently hums:
You're trying to turn this into some sort of morality debate, when he's just asking what the reason for it is.No, I don't know, I'm just getting irritated by this because just because the question has to do with race it's instantly treated as a racist question.
A) Because race doesn't exist, so any question implying its existence is inherently racist
B) Given the various racist replies to the question, the irony of your post is crippling
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
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When the babel fish was in place, it was apparent Gadani said:
Why are people different colors?
Different tribes/cultures slowly broke off of whatever initial human group there was in some unknown time, moved to different locations on Earth, and developed slightly different characteristics because of it.
The same question could be asked about many other kinds of animals (dogs, cats, birds) and it's pretty much the same.
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Mr. Gainsborough got all f'ed up on Angel Dust and wrote:
You're trying to turn this into some sort of morality debate, when he's just asking what the reason for it is.No, I don't know, I'm just getting irritated by this because just because the question has to do with race it's instantly treated as a racist question.
Don't feed the troll. It's been established long ago that there's no such thing as honest curiousity in his eyes.
It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the beans of Java the thoughts aquire speed, the teeth acquire stains, the stains become a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.
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Channeling the spirit of Sherlock Holmes, Damnati absently fondled Watson and proclaimed:
Don't feed the troll. It's been established long ago that there's no such thing as honest curiousity in his eyes.
You'd do better to keep your mouth shut when you've no idea what the fuck you're talking about.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
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Bloodsage had this to say about Punky Brewster:
You'd do better to keep your mouth shut when you've no idea what the fuck you're talking about.
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So quoth Bloodsage:
For the same reason some people have blond hair and some have brown, some people have blue eyes and some have green. Skin color is exactly as meaningful as that, meaning not at all.
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Bloodsage stopped staring at Deedlit long enough to write:
A) Because race doesn't exist, so any question implying its existence is inherently racistB) Given the various racist replies to the question, the irony of your post is crippling
Right, not trying to start an argument there at all in response to Gadani's honest inquiry. Not at all, nope. How others chose to respond to the question has no bearing on the intent. In addition, quite a number of the posts have been honest, non-racist, non-inflammatory answers. Get back on your porch old man, your cane waving doesn't impress anyone.
It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the beans of Java the thoughts aquire speed, the teeth acquire stains, the stains become a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.
If you think you've got a point, then take a deep breath, turn your brain on, ask Mommy to borrow a dictionary, and try to construct an argument with some bearing on something, and which normal human beings have a chance of decoding. Bloodsage fucked around with this message on 04-30-2007 at 02:11 PM.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
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Bloodsage Model 2000 was programmed to say:
What the fuck are you talking about? You're not even making sense.If you think you've got a point, then take a deep breath, turn your brain on, ask Mommy to borrow a dictionary, and try to construct an argument with some bearing on something, and which normal human beings have a chance of decoding.
Thread is titled: Where did races come from?
Subject of the thread is edited to clarify the nature of the question, though many already understood the nature of the idea and answered reasonably:
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Why are people different colors?
Various reasonable and unreasonable responses are given.
Repetition of a reasonable response and unnecessary moral commentary (in italics) is given:
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For the same reason some people have blond hair and some have brown, some people have blue eyes and some have green. Skin color is exactly as meaningful as that, meaning not at all.
The question this thread is founded was in no way founded on the meaning of "race" or skin color but you saw fit to bring morality into the discussion (yes, discussion, not debate) anyway. You're called on it and follow up with:
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A) Because race doesn't exist, so any question implying its existence is inherently racistB) Given the various racist replies to the question, the irony of your post is crippling
You seek to imply that anyone who does not understand the origin of differences in appearance and asks about it is racist in the context of this thread. As I said earlier, you're trying to start an argument. Again, get back on your porch old man.
It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the beans of Java the thoughts aquire speed, the teeth acquire stains, the stains become a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.
So all the people groups -- black Africans, Indo-Europeans, Mongolians, and others -- have come into existence since Babel.
Noah and his family were probably mid-brown, with genes for both dark and light skin, because a medium skin color would seem to be the most generally suitable (dark enough to protect against skin cancer, yet light enough to allow vitamin D production). As all the factors for skin color were present in Adam and Eve, they would most likely have been mid-brown as well, with brown eyes and brown (or black) hair. In fact, most of the world's population today is still mid-brown.
After the flood, for the few centuries until Babel, there was only one language and one culture group. Thus, there were no barriers to marriage within this group. This would tend to keep the skin color of the population away from the extremes. Very dark and very light skin would appear, of course, but people tending in either direction would be free to marry someone lighter or darker than themselves, ensuring that the average color stayed roughly the same.
The same would be true of characteristics other than skin color. Under these sorts of circumstances, distinct differences in appearance will never emerge. To obtain such separate lines, you would need to break a large breeding group into smaller groups and keep them separate, that is, prevent interbreeding between groups. This would be true for animal as well as human populations, as every biologist knows
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Bloodsage thought this was the Ricky Martin Fan Club Forum and wrote:
words
After the clarification (using "race" where he meant "skin color and other immediately apparent physical traits that are common in a region," which is clearly what he was intending to ask in the first place) it's a pretty reasonable question to ask, I think, even if the answer may seem simple to you
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Channeling the spirit of Sherlock Holmes, Kegwen absently fondled Watson and proclaimed:
After the clarification (using "race" where he meant "skin color and other immediately apparent physical traits that are common in a region," which is clearly what he was intending to ask in the first place) it's a pretty reasonable question to ask, I think, even if the answer may seem simple to you
Are you stupid?
All I did was point out that there's no such thing as race. If it was, indeed, an honest mistake, then he just learned something, and no longer has to go through life looking like a bigot.
It's you later morons who are trying to fight about it.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
OBTW, quoting random passages that have nothing to do with the point you're trying to make only makes you look stupid. If you want to build an argument, you have to have an explicit point, and then you have to provide supporting points.
Giving people information they obviously don't have is hardly picking a fight, while randomly popping into a thread to point out how much you don't like another poster--as you and Gains have done--is the very definition of trolling. You really should STFU next time, if all you've got are vague feelings of resentment because you're not smart enough to converse with the big kids.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
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Bloodsage had this to say about Matthew Broderick:
All I did was point out that there's no such thing as race. If it was, indeed, an honest mistake, then he just learned something, and no longer has to go through life looking like a bigot.
He only looks like a bigot to you. Most people still use the term race pretty frequently.
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Verily, the chocolate bunny rabbits doth run and play while Mr. Gainsborough gently hums:
He only looks like a bigot to you. Most people still use the term race pretty frequently.
Which is a huge problem. Saying that since most people are ignorant and bigoted, it shouldn't be considered a problem is pretty dumb. It's also logically flawed, as an appeal to popularity.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
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Bloodsage had this to say about Jimmy Carter:
Which is a huge problem. Saying that since most people are ignorant and bigoted, it shouldn't be considered a problem is pretty dumb. It's also logically flawed, as an appeal to popularity.
Wouldn't that be an issue for a politics thread rather than a question about biology?
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Bent over the coffee table, Mr. Gainsborough squealed:
Wouldn't that be an issue for a politics thread rather than a question about biology?
No, since it's the answer to his question as well as being an important thing to understand.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
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Check out the big brain on Bloodsage!
No, since it's the answer to his question as well as being an important thing to understand.
Somehow, I don't think he cares, considering as soon as you went off on the racist tangent, he rephrased his question to get a better answer.
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Verily, the chocolate bunny rabbits doth run and play while Mr. Gainsborough gently hums:
Somehow, I don't think he cares, considering as soon as you went off on the racist tangent, he rephrased his question to get a better answer.
It doesn't matter if he cares, and the fact he's still looking for an answer pretty much proves he doesn't get the fact that it's a meaningless question. Just like other physical traits, skin color came about in response to a comibination of environmental and random (mutation) factors over time.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
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Bloodsage got all f'ed up on Angel Dust and wrote:
Just like other physical traits, skin color came about in response to a comibination of environmental and random (mutation) factors over time.
Was that so hard?
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Bent over the coffee table, Mr. Gainsborough squealed:
Was that so hard?
There are people who don't know that?
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
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Bloodsage had this to say about dark elf butts:
There are people who don't know that?
given the question I'm going to assume so
Give him a break, he's from small town Louisiana
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Bloodsage had this to say about John Romero:
Damnati, you're an idiot, and should leave logic to those who understand it; once again, you've not made the least bit of sense.OBTW, quoting random passages that have nothing to do with the point you're trying to make only makes you look stupid. If you want to build an argument, you have to have an explicit point, and then you have to provide supporting points.
Giving people information they obviously don't have is hardly picking a fight, while randomly popping into a thread to point out how much you don't like another poster--as you and Gains have done--is the very definition of trolling. You really should STFU next time, if all you've got are vague feelings of resentment because you're not smart enough to converse with the big kids.
How cute, he's spluttering again.
It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the beans of Java the thoughts aquire speed, the teeth acquire stains, the stains become a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.
jesus christ this thread
