So, what I would like from you folks is twofold: recommendations on good entry-level bikes and, preferably, a website for motorcycles similar to cars.com where I can look up some reviews. Right now, I have a hard-on for the Ducati Monster 695 but that mainly based on how it looks (sexy!). Any advice on the matter is much appreciated.
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This one time, at Mr. Gainsborough camp:
this will not help your love life
No, it won't, but it'll save money on gas, which is the point.
It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the beans of Java the thoughts aquire speed, the teeth acquire stains, the stains become a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.
An old Civic or Corolla will get in the high 30's in town.
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Noxhil2 had this to say about pies:
If you've never ridden a motorcycle it isn't a great idea to start with a 700cc bike. Also, realize there are additional associated costs with owning a motorcycle, and you should really do the math and think hard before you make this change.An old Civic or Corolla will get in the high 30's in town.
Could anyone enlighten me as to these costs? I really know nothing about what I'm getting into and, as ever, I don't where to start my research. As it stands, I'm dropping about 50 bucks every week and a half on gas, which is quite a bit too much for my budget; a motorcycle will always be significantly more efficient than any car in that respect, which is why I'm giving the idea serious consideration. A friend of mine knows of a good motorcycle class I could take and possibly has a bike I could practice on before getting my own.
The other consideration is the cost of vehicle itself, both immediately and for maintenance. If it came down to it, I have better chances learning how to fix a bike than my car. Motorcycles are also cheaper initially if I shop around bit for a good used one. Regardless of any other factors, I'm not in a position financially to procure any new vehicle at all until late this year or sometime next year, so I'd like to start my research now.
It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the beans of Java the thoughts aquire speed, the teeth acquire stains, the stains become a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.
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Peanut butter ass Shaq Damnati booooze lime pole over bench lick:
Could anyone enlighten me as to these costs?
You can't ride a bike in snow or hard rain, and you really don't want to ride a bike in very cold weather. In short, you'll still need a car. That means two sets of insurance, all the car associated expenses like inspections and maintenance, plus all the bike related expenses like gear and so on.
All in all, unless you live in an area with notoriously favorable weather and can ditch your car, you'll probably end up spending more just in insurance than you would save in gas.
Bikes are a fun, expensive hobby, not a money-saving commuter.
At least, that's how it worked out last time I looked.
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Everyone wondered WTF when nem-x wrote:
get a vespai would
If you weren't buying a gun 
that'll show you
If buddy hadn't been speeding like a retard and had better situational awareness he'd have a leg today.
But sage does look good in those leathers.
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Peanut butter ass Shaq Asha'man booooze lime pole over bench lick:
Mass transit.
Not viable in the vast majority of cities. In every town I've ever been to, using mass transit of any kind, be it bus, subway, monorail, whatever, turns a 15 minute commute into a 45 minute - 1 hour commute, and that's IF it's running on time.
And then there's the hassle of having to build your entire work day around their schedule, running to catch the last train or bus, or sitting in a terminal waiting for one.
Absolutely the dregs of transportation, to be avoided at all cost.
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Peanut butter ass Shaq Damnati booooze lime pole over bench lick:
As far as weather goes, I live in San Diego; we get rain about 6 times a year total here. Insurance was one of the concerns I had; it's not problem to maintain my car insurance, I get that really cheap, but I don't know what it costs to insure a motorcycle.
From what I can tell, it's actually a lot less than auto insurance, but your health and life insurance both go up >_<
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Maradon! had this to say about Punky Brewster:
From what I can tell, it's actually a lot less than auto insurance, but your health and life insurance both go up >_<
I know it's bad but I don't have either of those...I need more income badly. -_-
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How.... nem-x.... uughhhhhh:
get a vespai would
Me too.
Let's start a gang.
It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the beans of Java the thoughts aquire speed, the teeth acquire stains, the stains become a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.
This should honestly be the end of the discussion. Yarp.
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Verily, Densetsu doth proclaim:
If you do not have health insurance, do not buy a motorcycle.This should honestly be the end of the discussion. Yarp.
Like my income, that's apt to change by the time I can afford to be actually buying a bike.
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Aw, geez, I have Maradon! all over myself!
Not viable in the vast majority of cities.
It's true. Any city that was really built-up after, say 1900, is car-centric, which basically means every city that's not in the BosWash megalopolis, and maybe a few others scattered across the country.
And if you live west of the Mississippi(with a few exceptions, of course), forget about it. Mass transit is for the poor and homeless and illegals. You wouldn't want to sit next to a Mexican on a bus ride, now would you?
Of course, in my case, it makes complete sense. It costs me around $10 per day to commute via mass transit. To drive into the city would cost me $13 in tolls, plus around $50 for parking, plus gas and wear and tear. And it would take me even longer than my 1.5 hour 1-way commute. I'm sure that if I lived in Phoenix or Austin, I'd easily be able to zip along some freeway to my job in half the time.
But fuck that noise, the Northeast is where it's at.
Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite. - John Kenneth Galbraith
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Verily, Y.O.T.C doth proclaim:
If your not going far a vespa is a viable option.
Doesn't seem much less expensive than a motorcycle, though, and has most of the same drawbacks.
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Karnaj postedBut fuck that noise, the Northeast is where it's at.
I've always been curious about the northeast, because it seems so different from california, but I don't know if I could really handle actual seasons. Plus, I mean, jobs.
2. Don't learn from a friend. That's stupid.
3. Take an MSF course. Period. If you can't afford that, you can't afford to ride.
4. Good helmets cost $$. Anything under $300 is more fashion than protection.
5. You'd also need boots, leather gloves, and a leather jacket. Anyone who rides without boots and gloves is an idiot. Aerostitch makes protective suits you can wear over street clothes. $$
6. It's cheaper to buy a used car.
7. Don't buy a used motorcycle unless you know what you're doing. You don't.
8. A 500cc Honda Shadow (if they still exist) or a BMW F650 are good beginner types.
9. Buy a used car.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
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Bloodsage had this to say about Duck Tales:
1. Don't learn on a sport bike. That's stupid.2. Don't learn from a friend. That's stupid.
3. Take an MSF course. Period. If you can't afford that, you can't afford to ride.
4. Good helmets cost $$. Anything under $300 is more fashion than protection.
5. You'd also need boots, leather gloves, and a leather jacket. Anyone who rides without boots and gloves is an idiot. Aerostitch makes protective suits you can wear over street clothes. $$
6. It's cheaper to buy a used car.
7. Don't buy a used motorcycle unless you know what you're doing. You don't.
8. A 500cc Honda Shadow (if they still exist) or a BMW F650 are good beginner types.
9. Buy a used car.
Most useful post thus far. The friend with the bike recommended a class he himself took, I intend to take it over the summer. My contentions with buying a car have been stated; gas costs, insurance costs, and the cost of the car itself is generally more than a bike...or so I understand. The point of this thread was to find a starting point to assess those costs. As for protective gear, I anticipated dropping around 500 bucks on it but if it's more, whatever. Safety is more important than money.
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Alidane screamed this from the crapper:
I've always been curious about the northeast, because it seems so different from california, but I don't know if I could really handle actual seasons. Plus, I mean, jobs.
Here's the skinny on seasons in the Northeast:
In the winter, it's too damn cold.
In the spring, it's too damn rainy.
In the summer, it's too damn hot.
In the autumn, it's actually very nice.
And all year 'round, it's too damn crowded. But I think you'd find ample employment opportunities in the Northeast, especially for IT or Pharmaceutical positions.
Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite. - John Kenneth Galbraith
1. Almost winter
2. Winter
3. Still winter
4. Road construction
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Over the mountain, in between the ups and downs, I ran into Maradon! who doth quote:
four seasons
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