My only complaint is that, for an action movie, there was remarkably little action. I figure the Wachowski brothers wanted as much time as possible spent on their political message, though, so it's forgiveable. Plus what little fighting there was, was extremely awesome.

The fact that the whole movie from start to finish was intended to be a thumb in the eye of the patriot-act-passin' Bush administration was not lost on me. Who could miss the peppering of buzzwords like "Conservative", "Deeply religious", and "godliness"? The portayal of islam and homosexuals as persecuted? Christ, by the end of the movie, Creedy was starting to look like Don Fucking Rumsfeld. It was reekingly obvious that this movie was a peek into the wildly distorted perception of republicans by extreme liberals.

But I really didn't give a flying shit about any of that, because the message that came across was one of hardline, anti-totalitarianism. It was a message NOT to allow the government to run your life, to question the authority of government, and that freedom means more than comfort or even life.

The Wachowskis, seemingly by accident, put foreward compelling and accurate reasons to oppose nanny-staters, pork-spenders, entitlement mongers, censors, and outright fascists.

And really, that's all I care about.

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it had a guy in a mask blowing stuff up imo

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And I was all like 'Oh yeah?' and Mr. Gainsborough was all like:
it had a guy in a mask blowing stuff up imo

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I'm with Gains on this one.

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Over the mountain, in between the ups and downs, I ran into Ozimander who doth quote:
Oh hey Alan Moore's message. What's that? The Wachakwhatskis?

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The film did feature a considerable amount of interpretation.

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Maradon! got all f'ed up on Angel Dust and wrote:
That's a bit like saying The Hunchback of Notre Dame was about a freak beating people up.

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now you're gettin it

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Maradon! thought this was the Ricky Martin Fan Club Forum and wrote:
I loved the shit out of this movie.

My only complaint is that, for an action movie, there was remarkably little action. I figure the Wachowski brothers wanted as much time as possible spent on their political message, though, so it's forgiveable. Plus what little fighting there was, was extremely awesome.

The fact that the whole movie from start to finish was intended to be a thumb in the eye of the patriot-act-passin' Bush administration was not lost on me. Who could miss the peppering of buzzwords like "Conservative", "Deeply religious", and "godliness"? The portayal of islam and homosexuals as persecuted? Christ, by the end of the movie, Creedy was starting to look like Don Fucking Rumsfeld. It was reekingly obvious that this movie was a peek into the wildly distorted perception of republicans by extreme liberals.

But I really didn't give a flying shit about any of that, because the message that came across was one of hardline, anti-totalitarianism. It was a message NOT to allow the government to run your life, to question the authority of government, and that freedom means more than comfort or even life.

The Wachowskis, seemingly by accident, put foreward compelling and accurate reasons to oppose nanny-staters, pork-spenders, entitlement mongers, censors, and outright fascists.

And really, that's all I care about.

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Actually you have Alan Moore to thank for all of that, but yes, the Wachowskis put it to film.

Greenlit fucked around with this message on 02-03-2007 at 10:48 PM.

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Peanut butter ass Shaq Mr. Parcelan booooze lime pole over bench lick:
I think it was the 70s when Moore wrote Vendetta. The anti-Bush similarities just happened to be coincidental.

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Sorry, I don't buy that for a second. The part where V talks about a "strongly religious" man from the "conservative party" couldn't have been more ham-fisted if they'd superimposed Bush's face over the scene.

Plus they directly mention "america's war" coming to england.

Maradon! fucked around with this message on 02-03-2007 at 11:52 PM.

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The logic train ran off the tracks when Maradon! said:
Sorry, I don't buy that for a second. The part where V talks about a "strongly religious" man from the "conservative party" couldn't have been more ham-fisted if they'd superimposed Bush's face over the scene.

Plus they directly mention "america's war" coming to england.

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I think a lot of it was written off of basic truths, such as the fact that England has been heading towards a totalitarian police state for years now.

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Xyrra was listening to Cher while typing:
The first issue of V was published written in 1981.

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think one thing, type another. wooo!

I'm even a great afficionado of B movies--even Resident Evil!--and couldn't hang.

*flees!*

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Led was naked while typing this:
You should get a refund sir, apparently they sledgehammered your spidey-sense about movies when you made your O-5.

*flees!*

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This from an enlisted girl who saw Ultraviolet ON PURPOSE. I pray for your metnal state should YOU ever get to them fancy "O" ranks.

Kaiote fucked around with this message on 02-04-2007 at 08:36 AM.

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Bloodsage painfully thought these words up:
Hamhanded political messages being shoved down one's throat aside, I can't believe anyone even got far enough into this movie to receive said abuse. I downloaded V from Live! in HD to check out the rental service they've got now, and barely got 10 minutes into the movie before I hit "Delete" and went on to more productive activities like shoving bamboo shoots under my own fingernails. The acting was horrible, the main character a stupid, pompous ass, and the whole concept has been done so much better by so many others (Brazil, anyone? THX-1138 ring a bell? I seem to remember a little thing called 1984, if no one else does. Heck, Logan's Run had a better go at it!) that it's simply not worth the time.

I'm even a great afficionado of B movies--even Resident Evil!--and couldn't hang.

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you're wrong okay V was awesome

Shame. You missed a fun movie.

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Verily, the chocolate bunny rabbits doth run and play while Pvednes gently hums:
You made that call from only ten minutes in?

Shame. You missed a fun movie.

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Yes, and no I didn't. It was painfully bad.

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Kaiote spewed forth this undeniable truth:
This from an enlisted girl who saw Ultraviolet ON PURPOSE. I pray for your metnal state should YOU ever get to them fancy "O" ranks.

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I walked out on it!

And besides, I heard the procedure they do when they pull your brain out through your nose when you go through OCS really hurts.

i liked logans run too, and 1984 is always good(they made a movie out of it?)

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Bloodsage painfully thought these words up:
Yes, and no I didn't. It was painfully bad.

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Yes, you really did. It had Stephen Fry, lesbians, and many explosions.

The movie was a fun little romp...though comparing it to Logan's Run? Aside from a vision of a dystopic future, what do they have in common?

While I don't disagree that the choice of time for the film to be released was almost certainly intended as a jab at the Bush administration, the lesson could have just as easily been applied to any other extremist regime, including the Taliban or Saddam.

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Mr. Parcelan was listening to Cher while typing:
I think it was the 70s when Moore wrote Vendetta. The anti-Bush similarities just happened to be coincidental.

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I belive the orginal writer has publicly declared his distaste for the Wachowskis brothers. He gave an interveiw claiming the Wachowskies to be to timid to do something on their own in relation to what they did to his orginal work, or somthing to that effect.

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We were all impressed when Peter wrote:
I belive the orginal writer has publicly declared his distaste for the Wachowskis brothers. He gave an interveiw claiming the Wachowskies to be to timid to do something on their own in relation to what they did to his orginal work, or somthing to that effect.

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Yup. They didn't push the envelope enough; V went from being an antihero just as bad in the long term as the people he was replacing to being a Phantom of the Opera type character; twisted, but misunderstood.

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Quoth Pvednes:
Yes, comparing it to 1984, Logan's Run and THX-1138 is rather missing the point.

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The movie wasn't done well enough to have a point.

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Peanut butter ass Shaq Bloodsage booooze lime pole over bench lick:
The movie wasn't done well enough to have a point.

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I'm guessing that you stopped the movie when V spat out that exhaustive alliteration at the very beginning.

He actually doesn't do anything that pompous for the rest of the movie.

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A sleep deprived Bloodsage stammered:
The movie wasn't done well enough to have a point.

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How would you know that, since you haven't actually seen it?

It's a comic book movie. Nothing more, nothing less.

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Quoth Maradon!:
I'm guessing that you stopped the movie when V spat out that exhaustive alliteration at the very beginning.

He actually doesn't do anything that pompous for the rest of the movie.

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That's kind of a shame. I watched up until the first attack at the TV station, and gave up in disgust. It wasn't even fun badness, like Evil Dead or even Resident Evil.

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Bloodsage wrote this stupid crap:
The movie wasn't done well enough to have a point.

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I would recommend the graphic novel. I was very disappointed in the movie, but the graphic novel is very well written. Although if the alliteration at the beginning of the movie bothered you, you might dislike it in the graphic novel. I liked it there. I thought it really gave V flavor.