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Topic: That vaccine will make you go to hell!
Karnaj
Road Warrior Queef
posted 01-30-2007 09:16:40 AM
So, apparently, some Muslim doctors' leader is telling British Muslims not to vaccinate their kids. What I want to know is how this guy got his doctorate in the first place.

I imagine few, if any, will follow this, but this article's good for a lark.

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Norim Stumpfighter
Milkmaid
posted 01-30-2007 02:03:49 PM
quote:
Katme, a psychiatrist

That's all you really needed to read... wtf does a psychiatrist really know about medical science anyway?

Blindy.
Suicide (Also: Gay.)
posted 01-30-2007 02:15:52 PM
Uhm...

So this is basically on the order of a few Jewish people, maybe a Doctor, saying that Jews shouldn't get the crab-protein based sutures because they aren't kosher.

Not really news.

Yeah, he goes on to say stupid shit like praying and living life according to the Qur'an will heal you... but that's not anything I haven't heard from retards of the Christian faith as well.

Blindy. fucked around with this message on 01-30-2007 at 02:47 PM.

Trillee
I <3 My Deviant
posted 01-30-2007 03:59:33 PM
quote:
Norim Stumpfighter impressed everyone with:
That's all you really needed to read... wtf does a psychiatrist really know about medical science anyway?

Quite a good deal actually. In order to get your liscence as a psychiatist, you have to take the same med school as other doctors take. Part of that is to understand how the medications you prescribe to patients work on the human body and such. And I know this because Ken's mother has been a psychiatrist all her adult life. She had to go through med school to get her liscence to practice. She even work at the Mental hospital here for years prior to working at the Vets hospital.

As for this guy... yesh... Yeeeah..no. This is taking his proffessional power alittle to far. No doctor in their right mind, psychiatrist or any other, would suggest such a thing as to not vaccinate one's children...

Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael
I posted in a title changing thread.
posted 01-31-2007 07:35:10 AM
While Tril's right about psychiatrists going to med school, it bears saying there are a lot of physicians with personal opinions about vaccinations. The trace amounts of mercury in some vaccines, etc. Doesn't mean you should stop getting your kids vaccinated, but at least there's an argument based in science that can be argued.

What bugs me here is that the guy's basing his entire argument on a religious-based technicality, not any sort of quasi-legitimate scientific argument. He is essentially saying that because the materials used in the production of a vaccine aren't halal (muslim kosher) you should give up the benefits. Hmm. There has to be some way to atone for this sort of infraction. If a Catholic or a Jew accidentally (or intentionally) infringes upon some major point, they can make up for it. This is almost literally throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

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Palador ChibiDragon
Dismembered
posted 01-31-2007 11:44:31 AM
Maybe it's wrong of me, but when I read this all I could think was: "Oh look, a muslim's found a new way of killing off other muslims. Again."

Here's a new plan for Iraq: Give everyone a Saturday Night Special, and two loads of ammo. Then leave.

*sigh* Anyway, I hope people don't listen to him, but I know they will.

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Alek
Not The Rapist
posted 01-31-2007 12:29:40 PM
quote:
Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael stopped beating up furries long enough to write:
While Tril's right about psychiatrists going to med school, it bears saying there are a lot of physicians with personal opinions about vaccinations. The trace amounts of mercury in some vaccines, etc. Doesn't mean you should stop getting your kids vaccinated, but at least there's an argument based in science that can be argued.

That's true, for example the flu vaccine contains thimerosal, a preservative that contains mercury. However, at least in the US you can get thimerosal-free vaccines. That said, this whole thing is ridiculous. How would God's will be to increase the risk of a disease when perfectly good medicine is available?

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`Doc
Cold in an Alley
posted 01-31-2007 12:40:33 PM
quote:
Roll the dice to see if Alek is getting drunk!
How would God's will be to increase the risk of a disease when perfectly good medicine is available?
Because he's running out of virgins.
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Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael
I posted in a title changing thread.
posted 01-31-2007 05:24:34 PM
quote:
ACES! Another post by Alek:
That's true, for example the flu vaccine contains thimerosal, a preservative that contains mercury. However, at least in the US you can get thimerosal-free vaccines. That said, this whole thing is ridiculous. How would God's will be to increase the risk of a disease when perfectly good medicine is available?

As I understood it, the amounts of mercury in old-school vaccines are so miniscule that there's never been any link proven regarding higher rates of autism (which is the big thing they're claiming the mercury-touched vaccines cause) or whatever. It's just one of a hundred different things they're saying causes autism these days. On the OTHER hand, the definition of autism keeps shifting. These days even Asperger's syndrome is considered a type of high-function autism.

Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael fucked around with this message on 01-31-2007 at 05:25 PM.

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Blindy.
Suicide (Also: Gay.)
posted 01-31-2007 05:32:06 PM
You know, people used to break thermometers open and play with the "quick silver."
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Pancake
posted 01-31-2007 05:36:13 PM
I did, as a child.
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Bloodsage
Heart Attack
posted 02-02-2007 07:30:48 AM
quote:
Verily, the chocolate bunny rabbits doth run and play while Norim Stumpfighter gently hums:
That's all you really needed to read... wtf does a psychiatrist really know about medical science anyway?

Psychiatrists are medical doctors; that's how they differ from psychologists. Phychiatrists are the ones who treat mental illness with drugs--they are, by definition, expert in brain chemistry and how to modify it with drugs.

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Steven Steve
posted 02-05-2007 09:33:00 AM
Psychiatry is... a pseudoscience, Matt. You don't know these things - I've researched them.
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Blindy.
Suicide (Also: Gay.)
posted 02-05-2007 09:44:04 AM
quote:
Stalwart Steve says po-ta-to, I say pa-ta-to:
Psychiatry is... a pseudoscience, Matt. You don't know these things - I've researched them.

Ok, Tom Cruise.

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