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Topic: I need something that isn't WoW to play.
Falaanla Marr
I AM HOT CHIX
posted 08-08-2006 11:47:09 PM
I like to raid in WoW, but levelling a new character is incredibly boring.

So I want a new game to mess with. MMO, I mean.

I've considered RF Online, but am not sure. Anyone else playing something that isn't WoW that is pretty fun?

Skaw
posted 08-09-2006 12:10:34 AM
Uru Live is taking Beta forms. If you're fan of Myst and was upset about Uru's boasted lackluster Multiplayer, this actually makes the Multiplayer useful, rather than marketing a "lol" feature like the original.

They've partnered with GameTap for it though. Not sure your stance on paying for emulation, but they made no suggestion of a seperate online fee when it goes live, so you'll just pay GameTaps $10 subscription.

http://www.urulive.com/blog/

Skaw fucked around with this message on 08-09-2006 at 12:13 AM.

Cavalier-
Pancake
posted 08-09-2006 12:30:58 AM
EvE Online has been a blast so far. Especially being part of Goonfleet and all the drama/tension that has gone along with it these last couple of months.
Falaanla Marr
I AM HOT CHIX
posted 08-09-2006 12:36:35 AM
quote:
Cavalier- had this to say about (_|_):
EvE Online has been a blast so far. Especially being part of Goonfleet and all the drama/tension that has gone along with it these last couple of months.

It seems like it would be fun for that, but I can't get myself to push past the tutorial -- it makes the game feel so dull and is entirely too long to enjoy :/

Steven Steve
posted 08-09-2006 12:43:47 AM
Without having heard that it was meant to be multiplayer, when I started playing Uru I said "Man, this should be an MMO," although I have no idea why since it doesn't really lend itself to MMO gameplay. Maybe there could be cooperative puzzles or something.
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Nina
posted 08-09-2006 12:54:35 AM
...Final Fantasy XI?
BetaTested
Not gay, but loves the cock!
posted 08-09-2006 01:35:18 AM
quote:
This insanity brought to you by Falaanla Marr:
It seems like it would be fun for that, but I can't get myself to push past the tutorial -- it makes the game feel so dull and is entirely too long to enjoy :/

Ya, the tutorial takes way to friggen long. But I wish I had one when I started Just read the forums instead like I did, or learn as you go. Get blown up and have a blast along the way.

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Damnati
Filthy
posted 08-09-2006 01:45:41 AM
You could play EQ2 on Najena.
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Mr. Gainsborough
posted 08-09-2006 02:12:57 AM
Trickster.
Sakkra
Office Linebacker
posted 08-09-2006 04:33:33 AM
Play COV wit me
Dave
)_(
posted 08-09-2006 07:43:10 AM
ChromeHounds. Or, go back into some old clasic games like FreeSpace2, Homeworld, Jedi Knight etc.
Ryuujin
posted 08-09-2006 08:16:48 AM
I reinstalled EverQuest and I'm messing around on the Progression servers. Didn't even have to reactivate the account for some reason.
Falaanla Marr
I AM HOT CHIX
posted 08-09-2006 08:51:38 AM
quote:
Dave wrote this stupid crap:
ChromeHounds. Or, go back into some old clasic games like FreeSpace2, Homeworld, Jedi Knight etc.

You must have missed the death of my 360

Peter
Pancake
posted 08-09-2006 03:16:48 PM
Horizons?

But i think right now there is some fuckery going on with billing.

Willias
Pancake
posted 08-09-2006 03:23:07 PM
quote:
So quoth Peter:
Horizons?

But i think right now there is some fuckery going on with billing.


I'd wait a few months for the new owners of that game to get thier shit together before even thinking of trying it.

Essentially, they've switched billing methods, and for a few days, their account information/billing page wasn't protected. At all. Anyone could connect to the page and see what information was being sent to and from there.

Dave
)_(
posted 08-09-2006 04:05:26 PM
quote:
How.... Falaanla Marr.... uughhhhhh:
You must have missed the death of my 360


Ya I did, ours died as well a week after we bought it. Sears honored the warenty and gave us a new one.

Lyinar Ka`Bael
Are you looking at my pine tree again?
posted 08-09-2006 04:41:07 PM
Yeah, EQ2. The nice thing is that you can play it casually or you can play it hardcore. There's flexibility in playstyles and there are things to do for everyone.


Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin

Mr. Parcelan
posted 08-09-2006 05:02:19 PM
quote:
Lyinar Ka`Bael wrote this then went back to looking for porn:
Yeah, EQ2. The nice thing is that you can play it casually or you can play it hardcore. There's flexibility in playstyles and there are things to do for everyone.

Nope.

Willias
Pancake
posted 08-09-2006 05:27:35 PM
quote:
Mr. Parcelan stopped beating up furries long enough to write:
Nope.

Well, there are things to do for those who don't mind playing it, have a computer that can run it, and don't mind putting up with SOE.

Nina
posted 08-09-2006 07:23:51 PM
quote:
Willias had this to say about Jimmy Carter:
Well, there are things to do for those who don't mind playing it,

Well that rules out nine people out of ten.

Willias
Pancake
posted 08-09-2006 09:01:05 PM
quote:
How.... Nina.... uughhhhhh:
Well that rules out nine people out of ten.

It's actually not a bad game, and in the past few months, SOE has really only made the game better.

However, because of what happened with SWG (and EQ1 in many people's minds) and the fact that EQ2 wasn't really good at launch, most people will never touch it.

Mr. Parcelan
posted 08-09-2006 10:23:34 PM
quote:
Willias's fortune cookie read:
It's actually not a bad game, and in the past few months, SOE has really only made the game better.

However, because of what happened with SWG (and EQ1 in many people's minds) and the fact that EQ2 wasn't really good at launch, most people will never touch it.


It also has to do with the fact that any time SoE smells success, they start fucking shit up immensely.

Willias
Pancake
posted 08-10-2006 12:13:04 AM
Wait, so why did they fuck SWG up then?

edit: i forget word

Willias fucked around with this message on 08-10-2006 at 12:14 AM.

Sakkra
Office Linebacker
posted 08-10-2006 12:17:20 AM
quote:
Willias had this to say about Matthew Broderick:
Wait, so why did they fuck SWG up then?

edit: i forget word


SWG should have been, by all rules of logic, absolute gold.

Willias
Pancake
posted 08-10-2006 12:30:23 AM
Haha, yeah, but it wasn't.

I was mostly aiming that comment at the NGE though. I'm not sure what smelled of success about that, but I don't think I've heard anything about SWG since it was released.

Mortious
Gluttonous Overlard
posted 08-10-2006 12:47:31 AM
quote:
Willias said:
Wait, so why did they fuck SWG up then?

They didn't have (and still don't have) a plan or a vision for the game. They're LucasArts' whipping boy and LS doesn't have a clue what direction the game should go either.

When it was made, it was made for the Expanded Universe crowd, the real Star Wars enthusiasts, then LucasArts shit all over it by using it as a marketing tool for the prequels. Just look at the alpha and the beta of the game, it was pretty amazing and had a lot in it that didn't make release (and still hasn't, like the AT-AT's which WORK but look stupid when they turn around because they use mob monster code and not dedicated vehicle coding, hello lazy devs). Though it was more like a sandbox (which is what the Star Wars crowd WANTED in the first place ffs), so they put "fun" things to do in it and most of those were crap.

SOE isn't totally to blame since they're bound by contract to do whatever LucasArts tells them to do to SWG, though they're not completely blameless either since they have "artistic license" in following LucasArts' plans.

.. and I think they hired retards as their programming staff. Not just people I'm calling retards. Real retards. Drooling over the keyboards from wheelchairs. They can't seem to code a single thing into the game without breaking at least fifty other things at the same time. It's hopeless and a lost cause, nothing can save it unless it's torn down and recoded by another company from the ground up.

Mortious fucked around with this message on 08-10-2006 at 12:55 AM.

Willias
Pancake
posted 08-10-2006 12:57:57 AM
quote:
Mortious stopped beating up furries long enough to write:
They didn't have (and still don't have) a plan or a vision for the game. They're LucasArts' whipping boy and LS doesn't have a clue what direction the game should go either.

When it was made, it was made for the Expanded Universe crowd, the real Star Wars enthusiasts, then LucasArts shit all over it by using it as a marketing tool for the prequels. Just look at the beta of the game, it was pretty amazing and had a lot in it that didn't make release (and still hasn't, like the AT-AT's which WORK but look stupid when they turn around).

SOE isn't totally to blame since they're bound by contract to do whatever LucasArts tells them to do to SWG, though they're not completely blameless either since they have "artistic license" in following LucasArts' plans.

.. and I think they hired retards as their programming staff. Not just people I'm calling retards. Real retards. Drooling over the keyboards from wheelchairs. They can't seem to code a single thing into the game without breaking at least fifty other things at the same time.


I still think that LucasArts pushed SOE to do the NGE. I find it hard to believe that even SOE would do that to a game without being forced to.

And the retards comment reminds me of EQ1 back in the day. Every patch has a few bug fixes and twice as many bugs!

Mr. Parcelan
posted 08-10-2006 05:55:57 AM
quote:
Willias has the right stuff
And the retards comment reminds me of EQ1 back in the day. Every patch has a few bug fixes and twice as many bugs!

Which is sort of the underlying problem with SOE: so long as they're on top, they stop caring.

Recall the customer service of EQ. Recall the hundreds of problems with Kunark (namely Rangers), and remember what sort of help was forthcoming for a highly-documented, well-supported problem: "Fuck you, pay me."

SWG had a fairly devoted fanbase, actually. They had one thing: the only viable futuristic, non-medieval MMOG...further, the only MMOG about Star Wars. Frickin' STAR WARS! So yeah, they had the only fix in town and stopped caring about their junkies.

Say what you want about WoW, but at least they listen to their fanbase more often than SOE did. Keyrings? Talent reviews? New dungeons?

The problem now is they don't really listen to the casual gamers any more. It's all raids now :\

Willias
Pancake
posted 08-10-2006 11:18:43 AM
quote:
From the book of Mr. Parcelan, chapter 3, verse 16:
Which is sort of the underlying problem with SOE: so long as they're on top, they stop caring.

Recall the customer service of EQ. Recall the hundreds of problems with Kunark (namely Rangers), and remember what sort of help was forthcoming for a highly-documented, well-supported problem: "Fuck you, pay me."

SWG had a fairly devoted fanbase, actually. They had one thing: the only viable futuristic, non-medieval MMOG...further, the only MMOG about Star Wars. Frickin' STAR WARS! So yeah, they had the only fix in town and stopped caring about their junkies.

Say what you want about WoW, but at least they listen to their fanbase more often than SOE did. Keyrings? Talent reviews? New dungeons?

The problem now is they don't really listen to the casual gamers any more. It's all raids now :\


Can't disagree with that. And that's probably why EQ2 is sucking less and less with every patch. They aren't the top dogs anymore, and WoW has definately hurt their subscription base. To get new subscribers, they have to make their game as good as it can get.

And again, the top dog point is pretty funny, because SOE thought that they would be with EQ2, and even today they're still fixing crap that they didn't give a shit about during EQ2's launch and first expansion pack.

The raid thing is the main reason I quit WoW. 5 mans and small raids (like, 2 groups) are fun because you really aren't limited on what you can do with your character. In a raid you have to focus on certain aspects of your character, which you don't necessarily get to pick, and as a class that gets heals it really sucks.

Willias fucked around with this message on 08-10-2006 at 11:19 AM.

Falaanla Marr
I AM HOT CHIX
posted 08-10-2006 12:10:02 PM
I've tried playing EQ2 a few times. Each time, it gets closer to grab me, but I never stay hooked for some reason.

No, I'm not saying it is bad or anything -- lots of people are having fun with it. Just isn't quite for me right now

But, with that said, I'll probably give it another shot soon. See if I can stick to it this time.

Falaanla Marr fucked around with this message on 08-10-2006 at 12:10 PM.

Steven Steve
posted 08-10-2006 12:50:16 PM
I think the worst part about MMORPGs is that you have to group just to get stronger. You don't even have to do that shit in real life! And after a while it takes just as long in the game as in real life! Then to add insult to injury you can't even do a backflip or something cool in most games, or just knock someone's head off with a swing of an axe.
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Maradon!
posted 08-10-2006 02:18:21 PM
quote:
Fazum'Zen Fastfisting:
I think the worst part about MMORPGs is that you have to group just to get stronger. You don't even have to do that shit in real life! And after a while it takes just as long in the game as in real life! Then to add insult to injury you can't even do a backflip or something cool in most games, or just knock someone's head off with a swing of an axe.

POIGNANT!

Sean
posted 08-10-2006 02:19:59 PM
quote:
Fazum'Zen Fastfist impressed everyone with:
I think the worst part about MMORPGs is that you have to group just to get stronger. You don't even have to do that shit in real life! And after a while it takes just as long in the game as in real life! Then to add insult to injury you can't even do a backflip or something cool in most games, or just knock someone's head off with a swing of an axe.

Have you played Toribash?

Awesome fighting game, you'd love it. (free)

A Kansas City Shuffle is when everybody looks right, you go left.

It's not something people hear about.

Led
*kaboom*
posted 08-10-2006 02:32:03 PM
I really enjoyed SWG because it was a fun non-fantasy MMORPG. Then they essentially turned it into Everquest in space.

I am getting really tired of the same old zappy spells and swords games, I want my laser rifle and stormtroopers dangit ;P I had a ton of fun schlepping around with my elite commando troopers and my ATST.

Just counting the days until Huxley comes out

Bajah
Thooooooor
posted 08-10-2006 02:37:56 PM
If not for WoW, I'd still be playing DAoC.

I think.

Dr. Gee
Say it Loud, Say it Plowed!
posted 08-10-2006 03:31:19 PM
quote:
Verily, Led doth proclaim:
Just counting the days until Huxley comes out

I've got my hopes up about that too. When I first heard of Warhammer online I heard it from someone who said it was going to be 40k and I was very happy, then I heard it was just going to be another fantasy MMO and was not so excited.

Vorago
A completely different kind of Buckethead
posted 08-10-2006 04:55:12 PM
quote:
When the babel fish was in place, it was apparent Sean said:
Have you played Toribash?

Awesome fighting game, you'd love it. (free)


OK, this rules, I grappled a guy and scissor kicked his arm right off at the elbow

Lyinar Ka`Bael
Are you looking at my pine tree again?
posted 08-10-2006 07:51:16 PM
quote:
Falaanla Marr wrote, obviously thinking too hard:
I've tried playing EQ2 a few times. Each time, it gets closer to grab me, but I never stay hooked for some reason.



I'd say that's more your attention span of a gnat


Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin

Willias
Pancake
posted 08-10-2006 08:03:47 PM
quote:
Lyinar Ka`Bael had this to say about John Romero:
I'd say that's more your attention span of a gnat

Actually, I think it's more to do with the "oh, we're not going to allow you to really see what kind of character you chose to play until you get to level 30-ish" thing that EQ2 has going. Though it ain't nearly as bad as it was back when the game was Archetype->Class->Subclass.

It's annoying. I have fun with a summoner type character until 24-ish, then I start getting bored.

That and the low level zones are boring as hell. Though the Adventure Yards and Commonlands are FAR better than they were a few patches ago. The massive quest chain in CL is the freakin' win. Every outdoor zone should have something like it.

Malbi
posted 08-10-2006 08:33:31 PM
quote:
Willias probably says this to all the girls:
Actually, I think it's more to do with the "oh, we're not going to allow you to really see what kind of character you chose to play until you get to level 30-ish" thing that EQ2 has going. Though it ain't nearly as bad as it was back when the game was Archetype->Class->Subclass.

It's annoying. I have fun with a summoner type character until 24-ish, then I start getting bored.

That and the low level zones are boring as hell. Though the Adventure Yards and Commonlands are FAR better than they were a few patches ago. The massive quest chain in CL is the freakin' win. Every outdoor zone should have something like it.


Their working towards that lately

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