Detention is gonna be crowded.
I'm inclined to agree with Parcelan, I think most of the kids did it to get out of class though.
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Lots of protesters in Phoenix 
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So quoth Lazzay:
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Maradon! had this to say about (_|_):
The fact that these kids are protesting the just punishment of people who are inarguably breaking our laws is a testament to just how shitty our public schools really are.
Oh yes, to disagree with a law and peacufully protest is definitely a failure of society.
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Anakha had this to say about Pirotess:
Personally, i think all these children should be punished for skipping a day of school, especially to protest forcing illegal immigrants to go back to their own country.
Your a children.
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Peanut butter ass Shaq Kermitov booooze lime pole over bench lick:
Oh yes, to disagree with a law and peacufully protest is definitely a failure of society.
They're not disagreeing with any law. Disagreement requires understanding and a logical argument to the contrary, both of which are conspicuously absent at these demonstrations.
What they're doing is mindlessly opposing the enforcement of a law because they "feel" that it us "unfair".
And yes, that sort of behavior is a tremendous failure of education.
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A sleep deprived Vorbis stammered:
Your a children.
Look who's talking.
Rat beard or not.
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Snoota attempted to be funny by writing:
It would have made my day if INS showed up in force in the 500,000 strong protests in LA and deported most of them.
Ditto.
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Vorbis stumbled drunkenly to the keyboard and typed:
Your a children.
was dis on purpos?
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There was much rejoicing when Maradon! said this:
They're not disagreeing with any law. Disagreement requires understanding and a logical argument to the contrary, both of which are conspicuously absent at these demonstrations.What they're doing is mindlessly opposing the enforcement of a law because they "feel" that it us "unfair".
And yes, that sort of behavior is a tremendous failure of education.
It's a stepping stone to a greater understanding. They're getting the basic idea, but applying it in an inappropriate way. They'll learn from their mistakes. Yey.
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Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael had this to say about Knight Rider:
Yeah. If you're going to lock kids up for being stupid teenagers looking for a quasi-legitimate excuse to get out of school for the day, then we should make the law retroactive. See how many of us get hauled in.
Right because a wrong was done in the past we can't try and correct it now.
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LeMiereing:
It's a stepping stone to a greater understanding. They're getting the basic idea, but applying it in an inappropriate way. They'll learn from their mistakes. Yey.
What basic idea is that? That the best way to bring about change in society is to abdicate one's responsibilities? That people will listen to you, even if you're wrong, so long as you complain loud enough?
Or were you referring to the specific case of opening the boarders and letting illegal immigrats harass our citizens and consume our social services with legal impunity?
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Señor Gains was naked while typing this:
was dis on purpos?
Tongue-in-cheek humor, never!
I'm not nearly sophisticated enough.
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Naimah had this to say about dark elf butts:
Right because a wrong was done in the past we can't try and correct it now.
It's basic adolescent psych that every new generation does the social equivalent of superfluously (from the perspective of adults) reinventing the wheel. Excessively punishing a teen for it is just as bad as excessively punishing anyone else for doing something. In the real world, if you ditch work and don't break the law, the worst thing that happens to you is that you're penalized by where you work for missing work.
These kids essentially ditched school. They didn't ditch school and go rob a bank. They didn't ditch school and go start a riot. Giving them anything more than an unexcused absence (for ditching school) just because some of them happened to go to a popular/unpopular, but COMPLETELY LEGAL demonstration is plain stupid, not to mention counterproductive if the goal is to teach them to support legal activities.
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Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael had this to say about Optimus Prime:
It's basic adolescent psych that every new generation does the social equivalent of superfluously (from the perspective of adults) reinventing the wheel. Excessively punishing a teen for it is just as bad as excessively punishing anyone else for doing something. In the real world, if you ditch work and don't break the law, the worst thing that happens to you is that you're penalized by where you work for missing work.These kids essentially ditched school. They didn't ditch school and go rob a bank. They didn't ditch school and go start a riot. Giving them anything more than an unexcused absence (for ditching school) just because some of them happened to go to a popular/unpopular, but COMPLETELY LEGAL demonstration is plain stupid, not to mention counterproductive if the goal is to teach them to support legal activities.
It is against the law for a child who is supposed to be in school to not be there without express parental consent. They broke the law.
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Naimah had this to say about Punky Brewster:
It is against the law for a child who is supposed to be in school to not be there without express parental consent. They broke the law.
As Deth said, it's usually called an 'unexcused absence' a few hours after-school, tops. No one is going to get punished by the law for skipping school for a day, it happens thousands of time daily.
You're being overly dramatic here.
I'm curious, what do you want to happen? Since you're so deadset on labeling these kids as criminals. What punishment do you feel is appropriate?
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Naimah had this to say about Jimmy Carter:
It is against the law for a child who is supposed to be in school to not be there without express parental consent. They broke the law.
Hahahahahahaha where the fuck did you go to high school, nerd?
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Maradon! obviously shouldn't have said:
What basic idea is that? That the best way to bring about change in society is to abdicate one's responsibilities? That people will listen to you, even if you're wrong, so long as you complain loud enough?Or were you referring to the specific case of opening the boarders and letting illegal immigrats harass our citizens and consume our social services with legal impunity?
You're such a negative Nancy.
Edit: They made mistakes. The experience of being a part of a protest, no matter how improper the cause, will give them a 'stepping stone' to a future understanding of a more proper cause. LeMiere fucked around with this message on 03-30-2006 at 02:55 PM.
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LeMiere loves Parcelan like a fat kid loves cake
You're such a negative Nancy.
He's such a Gloomy Gus.
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How.... Mr. Parcelan.... uughhhhhh:
Hahahahahahaha where the fuck did you go to high school, nerd?
It's a Class C Misdemeanor in Texas.
Edit: Courts can also get involved in California but their laws are a little more lax. Naimah fucked around with this message on 03-30-2006 at 04:52 PM.
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x--LeMiereO-('-'Q) :
You're such a negative Nancy.Edit: They made mistakes. The experience of being a part of a protest, no matter how improper the cause, will give them a 'stepping stone' to a future understanding of a more proper cause.
No, it really won't. "Civil disobedience" is a tool of the intellectually bankrupt. The only experience to be gained from a protest is a lesson in mob mentality.
In a sovereign society, you bring about change through the electoral process, through your state and local government. You do it with letter writing campaigns and phone calls to senators and representatives.
This does, however, require a logical argument. If you can't come up with one, then you need to reflect on your reasons for wanting change in the first place.
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Maradon! thought about the meaning of life:
No, it really won't. "Civil disobedience" is a tool of the intellectually bankrupt. The only experience to be gained from a protest is a lesson in mob mentality.In a sovereign society, you bring about change through the electoral process, through your state and local government. You do it with letter writing campaigns and phone calls to senators and representatives.
This does, however, require a logical argument. If you can't come up with one, then you need to reflect on your reasons for wanting change in the first place.
Yes, because acts of civil disobdience like Rosa Parks and MLK's boycott of the transportation system had no impact at all, right? Both of these people were obviously idiots, what were they thinking?
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Reynar's fortune cookie read:
Yes, because acts of civil disobdience like Rosa Parks and MLK's boycott of the transportation system had no impact at all, right? Both of these people were obviously idiots, what were they thinking?
No no no, it's not that they didn't have any impact. It's that they would have had much better results faster if they had stuck to the proper channels. If Rosa Parks had just given up her seat and wrote her senator that night we would have had equal seating rights in no time at all.
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JooJooFlop had this to say about Tron:
No no no, it's not that they didn't have any impact. It's that they would have had much better results faster if they had stuck to the proper channels. If Rosa Parks had just given up her seat and wrote her senator that night we would have had equal seating rights in no time at all.
Who was Rosa Parks? I wouldn't know. I went to a public school.
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LeMiere stumbled drunkenly to the keyboard and typed:
Who was Rosa Parks? I wouldn't know. I went to a public school.
What? Nonsense, you should have heard all about her in Liberal History II - Black People Good, White People Bad.
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JooJooFlop wrote this then went back to looking for porn:
What? Nonsense, you should have heard all about her in Liberal History II - Black People Good, White People Bad.
I think I skipped that class to make my "Socialism good, teacher said so" sign.
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x--ReynarO-('-'Q) :
Yes, because acts of civil disobdience like Rosa Parks and MLK's boycott of the transportation system had no impact at all, right? Both of these people were obviously idiots, what were they thinking?
Sorry, wrong. Both of those people had a logical argument. Both of those people backed up their actions with proper political pressure.
They didn't expect civil disobedience to make a difference, and it didn't, even for them. Rosa Parks wasn't the first black to ever refuse to sit in the back of the bus and MLK wasn't the first person to propose a boycott of the transportation system (the latter of which isn't even an example of civil disobedience, btw). It's because they backed up their actions with logic and proper political advocacy that they made a difference.
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Maradon! had this to say about Duck Tales:
Sorry, wrong. Both of those people had a logical argument. Both of those people backed up their actions with proper political pressure.They didn't expect civil disobedience to make a difference, and it didn't, even for them. Rosa Parks wasn't the first black to ever refuse to sit in the back of the bus and MLK wasn't the first person to propose a boycott of the transportation system (the latter of which isn't even an example of civil disobedience, btw). It's because they backed up their actions with logic and proper political advocacy that they made a difference.
I wasn't talking about whether they had a logical argument or not, you said people who do civil disobident things are idiots, (more or less).
What are you talking about? They didnt expect it to make a difference?? ...so you're saying MLK dedicated his life to something he thought he couldn't change?
Interesting, but 100% incorrect, read any history text book, watch any documentary, or listen to any speeches by MLK. He definitely thought he could change things, and he succeeded in doing so. Not immediately, but it definitely happened.
Also, MLK was a big practitioner of civil disobedience, he was jailed several times for it.
Keep on telling people to write letters if you wish, but I wouldnt go so far as to say peopole who practice CD are mentally backrupt, because it does work, this has been proven.
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Maradon! attempted to be funny by writing:
No, it really won't. "Civil disobedience" is a tool of the intellectually bankrupt. The only experience to be gained from a protest is a lesson in mob mentality.In a sovereign society, you bring about change through the electoral process, through your state and local government. You do it with letter writing campaigns and phone calls to senators and representatives.
This does, however, require a logical argument. If you can't come up with one, then you need to reflect on your reasons for wanting change in the first place.
Yeah, we all know Gandhi was intellectually bankrupt, and the salt marches didn't change anything.
