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Topic: Priests get love.
Willias
Pancake
posted 02-23-2006 01:58:44 PM
Uh oh.

Willias fucked around with this message on 02-23-2006 at 02:01 PM.

Sean
posted 02-23-2006 03:43:33 PM
Fuck me Freddy.
A Kansas City Shuffle is when everybody looks right, you go left.

It's not something people hear about.

Naimah
In a Fire
posted 02-23-2006 04:32:28 PM
Spiritual Guidance seems pretty hot.
Maradon!
posted 02-23-2006 05:15:06 PM
I wonder if lightwell is OOC only
Sean
posted 02-23-2006 05:21:16 PM
quote:
Maradon! stopped beating up furries long enough to write:
I wonder if lightwell is OOC only

From CM posts, no. It sounds like it's just a renew that breaks if you take damage. And the highest rank is 1600 over 10 seconds.

Sean fucked around with this message on 02-23-2006 at 05:22 PM.

A Kansas City Shuffle is when everybody looks right, you go left.

It's not something people hear about.

Callalron
Hires people with hooks
posted 02-23-2006 05:44:40 PM
Ok, show of hands here. Who else saw the title, ignored the WoW tag and thought it had something to do with, well, you know?

C'mon, you know you did.

Callalron
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Naj
I asked for a title and didn't get banned!
posted 02-23-2006 05:52:26 PM
Spiritual Guidance + Spirit Tap = Free TOEP if you land a killing blow. D:
Maradon!
posted 02-23-2006 07:28:42 PM
quote:
Peanut butter ass Shaq Sean booooze lime pole over bench lick:
From CM posts, no. It sounds like it's just a renew that breaks if you take damage. And the highest rank is 1600 over 10 seconds.

It seems kinda like the pool-healing spell that DAoC clerics got, only on a voluntary basis. Sounds extremely useful. It'll take away a lot of the burden of healing the ranged groups, which will free up mana and time for healing the melee groups.

Aaron (the good one)
posted 02-23-2006 09:33:36 PM
quote:
Maradon! stopped masturbating to porn to say;
It seems kinda like the pool-healing spell that DAoC clerics got, only on a voluntary basis. Sounds extremely useful. It'll take away a lot of the burden of healing the ranged groups, which will free up mana and time for healing the melee groups.

1600 over 10 seconds is garbage. Just bandage. If you have to bandage more than once a minute in a fight then stop getting hit with cleave.

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Kaiote
Shot in the Face
posted 02-23-2006 10:08:06 PM
quote:
Callalron's account was hax0red to write:
Ok, show of hands here. Who else saw the title, ignored the WoW tag and thought it had something to do with, well, you know?

C'mon, you know you did.


Actually, the priest in my last Deadmines group... well.. lets say the tag applies anyway.. fucking perv.

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Vorago
A completely different kind of Buckethead
posted 02-23-2006 10:48:34 PM
quote:
And I was all like 'Oh yeah?' and Delidgamond was all like:
1600 over 10 seconds is garbage. Just bandage. If you have to bandage more than once a minute in a fight then stop getting hit with cleave.

Or if you are fighting, say, magmadar or Golemagg who both have random target nukes and an aoe stackable dot

Handy as hell to have a backup healing station to get them back into the fight quicker instead of waiting for their bandage timer to go off again after eating an untimely pyroblast

Vorago fucked around with this message on 02-23-2006 at 10:52 PM.

Maradon!
posted 02-23-2006 11:06:52 PM
quote:
Over the mountain, in between the ups and downs, I ran into Delidgamond who doth quote:
1600 over 10 seconds is garbage. Just bandage. If you have to bandage more than once a minute in a fight then stop getting hit with cleave.

8000 healing for 230 mana isn't useful?

Rodent King
Stabbed in the Eye
posted 02-24-2006 01:13:45 AM
I'll certainly be getting Lightwell, our warlocks run oom pretty quickly while AEing mobs in the suppression room before Broodlord. With this up, it's like 5 charges of Innervate for them to pick up in or out of combat.

The new Spirit of Redemption is a nice touch, instead of watching things fall apart to an unlucky cleave/fire blast we'll be able to keep healing the tank we're on for ten seconds. Easily long enough for another healer to take over for them.

Looking out on some things though, they should get around to changing Improved Renew to not only affect the base cost of the spell, but also any + healing gear we're using. At 760+ healing I don't really need the ~140 extra HP for renews at rank 10; not enough to use three points on it. (Granted I don't want any points in Holy Specialization because a lot of crits on a priest wearing healing gear = agro, but that's beside the point.)

Holy Nova on the other hand, looks like it'll be a blast. Instant cast, no cool down group heal with no agro (Hopefully affected by healing gear) is awesome, and will be awesome on fights against Vaelstraz. We'll be spamming it out like mages spam arcane explosion, haha!

Besides those, none of them stand out to me. Some are a little quirky, and may need changing when they're on the test realms, but overall I think it turned out really well.

I really want to see a mage go crazy in PVP now, let them hit their Zandalarian Hero Charm, turn on Arcane Power and have a disc-specced priest hit them with Power Infusion and watch them mow down EVERYONE in their way.

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Naimah
In a Fire
posted 02-24-2006 01:24:38 AM
quote:
This one time, at Rodent King camp:
I'll certainly be getting Lightwell, our warlocks run oom pretty quickly while AEing mobs in the suppression room before Broodlord. With this up, it's like 5 charges of Innervate for them to pick up in or out of combat.

The new Spirit of Redemption is a nice touch, instead of watching things fall apart to an unlucky cleave/fire blast we'll be able to keep healing the tank we're on for ten seconds. Easily long enough for another healer to take over for them.

Looking out on some things though, they should get around to changing Improved Renew to not only affect the base cost of the spell, but also any + healing gear we're using. At 760+ healing I don't really need the ~140 extra HP for renews at rank 10; not enough to use three points on it. (Granted I don't want any points in Holy Specialization because a lot of crits on a priest wearing healing gear = agro, but that's beside the point.)

Holy Nova on the other hand, looks like it'll be a blast. Instant cast, no cool down group heal with no agro (Hopefully affected by healing gear) is awesome, and will be awesome on fights against Vaelstraz. We'll be spamming it out like mages spam arcane explosion, haha!

Besides those, none of them stand out to me. Some are a little quirky, and may need changing when they're on the test realms, but overall I think it turned out really well.

I really want to see a mage go crazy in PVP now, let them hit their Zandalarian Hero Charm, turn on Arcane Power and have a disc-specced priest hit them with Power Infusion and watch them mow down EVERYONE in their way.


Overhealing does not cause agro.

Suddar
posted 02-24-2006 02:17:45 AM
It's really great, because the holy tree is still mainly retardedly good healing, but we'll have some real options for damage thrown in. Holy nova will be amazing no matter how little damage it does.

The 31 disc talent is amazing imo, but speccing Disc over Holy now will be very, very hard.

Spirit of Redemption should have been the 31 point. So good.

Lightwell will definitely be worth it though. Bandages are useful, sure, but this is free healing on top of that...hopefully effected by +healing. It's basically free heals.

Suddar fucked around with this message on 02-24-2006 at 02:20 AM.

Demos
Pancake
posted 02-24-2006 02:41:09 AM
I can already see a use for that moonwell in fights where people have to drop los to bandage, like firemaw.
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Bloodsage
Heart Attack
posted 02-24-2006 07:52:00 AM
quote:
Callalron startled the peaceful upland Gorillas by blurting:
Ok, show of hands here. Who else saw the title, ignored the WoW tag and thought it had something to do with, well, you know?

C'mon, you know you did.


*Raises hand*

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Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven.

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Rodent King
Stabbed in the Eye
posted 02-24-2006 08:06:42 AM
quote:
There was much rejoicing when Naimah said this:
Overhealing does not cause agro.

You're sure about that? When I hit a tank for a 5,700 GHeal crit, I can normally get by with a fade. If I get unlucky and crit again, they're going to stay on me.

Razoregore's a good example of how I do not want to crit on a flash heal. Considering how I'll be staying away from Inspiration, there's no reason for me to spend points to crit more when my normal flash heals hit for about 1,400; about the same as an average priest's crit.

Rodent King fucked around with this message on 02-24-2006 at 08:08 AM.

My inner child is bigger than my outer adult.
Naimah
In a Fire
posted 02-24-2006 10:04:17 AM
If you don't believe me, have a warrior go up to a level 5 or some such and sunder armor it while in defensive stance. Then throw a greater heal on him. You shouldn't rip agro.
Chugga
Pancake
posted 02-26-2006 07:36:35 PM
The speculations of the new Feedback being a shield for priests that when spells are cast on them, burns the persons mana and does damage to them seems awesome! Finally a useful racial spell
Mr. Parcelan
posted 02-26-2006 08:16:26 PM
The new troll Hex of Weakness looks awesome, too.
Falaanla Marr
I AM HOT CHIX
posted 02-26-2006 08:28:17 PM
quote:
Doomie had this to say about Jimmy Carter:
The speculations of the new Feedback being a shield for priests that when spells are cast on them, burns the persons mana and does damage to them seems awesome! Finally a useful racial spell

Fear Ward is quite the racial spell.

Chugga
Pancake
posted 02-27-2006 12:58:05 AM
quote:
Falaanla Marr's unholy Backstreet Boys obsession manifested in:
Fear Ward is quite the racial spell.

Yeah, I just ment it was a useful racial spell as a human. Feedback as it stands now is the biggest piece of trash known to man. I mean really, what priests melee?

Bajah
Thooooooor
posted 02-27-2006 10:05:53 AM
quote:
This is what Doomie is doing. This is what I want Doomie to do :

Yeah, I just ment it was a useful racial spell as a human. Feedback as it stands now is the biggest piece of trash known to man. I mean really, what priests melee?


Preach it, brother!

Does Alaan know you stole his name for your Priest?

Alaan
posted 02-27-2006 01:01:42 PM
quote:
So quoth Bajah:
Preach it, brother!

Does Alaan know you stole his name for your Priest?


I do now! But I can't say much. I've inadvertantly named chars off ECers before. I know I have a a Talen somewhere. Possibly some others I'm forgetting.

Chugga
Pancake
posted 02-27-2006 08:09:31 PM
quote:
How.... Alaan.... uughhhhhh:
I do now! But I can't say much. I've inadvertantly named chars off ECers before. I know I have a a Talen somewhere. Possibly some others I'm forgetting.

The extra a is for how much AWESOMER I am than you

Naimah
In a Fire
posted 03-01-2006 06:24:10 PM
I just noticed that shadow priests can get to 45% threat reduction on their shadow spells. WTF?
Tier
posted 03-02-2006 01:35:35 AM
quote:
Naimah Model 2000 was programmed to say:
I just noticed that shadow priests can get to 45% threat reduction on their shadow spells. WTF?

Oh yeah, WTF! 45% thread reduction on ONE nuke that's already rated high threat! NERF@!@$

Overall I like the changes, particularily the fact that you'll actually have an advantage going full spirit or full holy now, instead of the best build being a mix of the two. I'm just kinda miffed about Lightwell... The idea is great, but 5 charges every 10 minutes is just... Not enough.

Still, I can already see this being a boon in AQ... Just stick a few around for when rogues get Uppercut by Vek'nilash. Hmm.

Asha'man fucked around with this message on 03-02-2006 at 01:35 AM.

Suddar
posted 03-02-2006 07:21:27 AM
quote:
Asha'man had this to say about the Spice Girls:
Oh yeah, WTF! 45% thread reduction on ONE nuke that's already rated high threat! NERF@!@$

Yeah, it's not nearly as great as you'd like to believe. A dps priest has to waste 5-10 talent points just to be viable.

Niklas
hay guys whats going on in this title?
posted 03-04-2006 01:09:49 AM
Fuck, who cares? Real priests get love from any right thinking person.
Suddar
posted 03-04-2006 03:21:54 PM
They removed the cooldown from Holy Fire.

:D :D :D

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