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Topic: Odd letter in the mail today...
Mightion Defensor
posted 01-17-2006 07:04:23 PM
To make a long story short, today my mom, my brother and I found out we're getting evicted.

To make a long story long....

Several months ago, we got a legal notice about foreclosure proceedings because our landlord wasn't and hadn't been paying his mortgage on the place since he bought it. Made us wonder where our rent checks had gone.

To shorten the story somewhat, the house went up for auction last week. Needless to say, since we don't have any money and I'm still out of a job, we didn't go. Today, we get letters in the mail saying eviction proceedings have begun, and they'd like us out in two weeks.

Did I mention I still don't have a job yet? My mother doesn't have any money left either, and we've been living on her Social Security, and we went down to the county building last week to apply for food stamps. There's not the slightest chance of us scraping together any kind of security deposit much less rent.

My mom is still optimistic - she says oh, they're just the bank that bought the house at the foreclosure auction - they don't know we're not the owners and we just rent... maybe they'll let us stay if we pay rent! My position is, cluelessness of the girl my mother talked to on the phone notwithstanding, that they *couldn't have not known we were not the owners* - any bank that buys a property at foreclosure has GOT to know who the deadbeat previous owner was, as well as the tenants are.

We'll know more tomorrow after my mom talks to the people, but I am not optimistic. That's putting it mildly.

I don't have a job, and even if I got hired right now at a job I wouldn't have enough money to help us relocate.

We don't have any money. The only "Resource" we have left is my car.

I don't know what we're going to do.

I don't know what's going to happen to us.

There's nothing I can do. The only option that comes to mind is a running car in a closed garage. This place doesn't have a garage, though, so even that idea is out.

My mother still has her optimism, but I say optimism and an empty sack is worth the sack.

Jackman
Racist Hermaphroditic Midget
posted 01-17-2006 07:18:29 PM
Maybe you can point to your lease? If they take the house the lease might still be enforcable (but not renewable) Contact someone in real estate and ask.

My heart goes out to you hope it works out.

Peter: I'm not afraid of anything, I laugh in the face of Death. See HAHAHAHA.
Death: Oh great! Thanks a lot. As if it wasnt already hard enough to fit in.

Some people are like Slinkys... Not really good for anything, But they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs.

Naimah
In a Fire
posted 01-17-2006 08:10:55 PM
I hear burning charcol in a closed room is just as effective.
Steven Steve
posted 01-17-2006 09:00:14 PM
Why do you still have a computer?
"Absolutely NOTHING [will stop me from buying Diablo III]. I will buy it regardless of what they do."
- Grawbad, Battle.net forums

"Don't want to sound like a fanboy, but I am with you. I'll buy it for sure, it's just a matter of for how long I will be playing it..."
- Silvast, Battle.net forums

Lyinar Ka`Bael
Are you looking at my pine tree again?
posted 01-17-2006 10:09:50 PM
What are the terms of your lease? Most places I thought had to at least give you 30 days.


Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin

Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael
I posted in a title changing thread.
posted 01-17-2006 10:16:43 PM
First up, find out what your options are as far as government subsidized housing in your area. Secondly, go to the unemployment office, use their resources to find a job. Any job. If you're about to be evicted, you can't be choosy.

Secondly, while you'd down there, look into Acorn or some of the other groups. They can usually help iron this stuff out, or at least make it easier on you.

Don't dispose of assets like your computer yet. Or your car. Unless you have some other option, it's better to retain some of your assets so you can more easily go to work if it's not right immediately near you.

What's the story on your brother? He working? If so, why not?

Lyinar's sweetie and don't you forget it!*
"All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die. -Roy Batty
*Also Lyinar's attack panda

sigpic courtesy of This Guy, original modified by me

Lyinar Ka`Bael
Are you looking at my pine tree again?
posted 01-17-2006 10:26:58 PM
I thought you weren't laid off until just a few months ago. Or does New York have a shorter unemployment time period?


Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin

Kaiote
Shot in the Face
posted 01-17-2006 10:30:08 PM
Yeah, what Deth said...

BTW.. You're like.. older than me. Why the fuck dont you have a job? I'm sure theres a story here somewhere that I may have missed on why you dont, but I'm curious. And, more importantly.. why do you have a level 41 pally on WoW if you have no job, and you're in enough financial trouble to get evicted and have no options?

This is a Karma hint that you need to sort your life out.

Henry had been killed by a garden gnome.He had fallen off the roof onto that cheerful-looking figure. The gnome was made of concrete. Henry wasn't. - Dean Koontz, Velocity
Palador ChibiDragon
Dismembered
posted 01-17-2006 10:35:59 PM
quote:
Kaiote said this about your mom:
Yeah, what Deth said...

BTW.. You're like.. older than me. Why the fuck dont you have a job? I'm sure theres a story here somewhere that I may have missed on why you dont, but I'm curious. And, more importantly.. why do you have a level 41 pally on WoW if you have no job, and you're in enough financial trouble to get evicted and have no options?

This is a Karma hint that you need to sort your life out.


You can play WoW during the parts of the day when there's not many places that take job applications. Like at 9pm at night.

And when you're stressed beyond all reason, a little relaxation can be a godsend. And if the account was allready paid up to a certan date, why not play while it lasts?

I believe in the existance of magic, not because I have seen proof of its existance, but because I refuse to live in a world where it does not exist.
Lyinar Ka`Bael
Are you looking at my pine tree again?
posted 01-17-2006 10:41:23 PM
quote:
Kaiote had this to say about Duck Tales:
Yeah, what Deth said...

BTW.. You're like.. older than me. Why the fuck dont you have a job? I'm sure theres a story here somewhere that I may have missed on why you dont, but I'm curious. And, more importantly.. why do you have a level 41 pally on WoW if you have no job, and you're in enough financial trouble to get evicted and have no options?

This is a Karma hint that you need to sort your life out.


Cause he got laid off.


Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin

Led
*kaboom*
posted 01-17-2006 10:54:03 PM
*Gives Mightion a biiiig happybunnyhug* No worries, it will all work out! :3
Mightion Defensor
posted 01-17-2006 11:22:24 PM
I've gone to the unemployment office, been talked to, made my resume all shiny and all that. I'm at the point where I submit resumes and cover letters to appropriate jobs I see in the paper and online. I'm at the point where someone has to call me for an interview. I can't just walk into a random building, start working, and hope they keep me.

My brother has a job, but it still sucks for him.

As for WoW, I bought it with a rampant hope I'd have a job in a month, so lord knows what will happen when my free month is up.

Peter
Pancake
posted 01-17-2006 11:48:55 PM
quote:
Palador ChibiDragon attempted to be funny by writing:
You can play WoW during the parts of the day when there's not many places that take job applications. Like at 9pm at night.
...

To be a complete dick here, You can be looking up online applications and faxing your resume out at night, And fax it over email, since a physical copy in a person's hand means they will read it, rather than an ignorable e-mail. I mean when I lost my job at Sears, I stopped at the 4 places on my way home, I was able to land a job to get me by within 3 weeks.

I would say you are fucked with the lease, since I would think it would be an agreement with the prior owner, and have nothing to do with the new owners. However you should be able to go after the prior owner with legal actions, and I would be asking were your mother¡¦s security went, I can¡¦t see NY state laws being all that different than NJ¡¦s and it is required that the security is kept in a separate account.

To get out before bad shit happen, I would be looking into a storage facility, and then possibly a cheap motel room? Sadly in my area we have high rents (I pay the cheapest in Brick at 815 per month) but if your area is like mine relying on seasonal tourists, you might be able to land a really cheap efficiency in a motel. If not look to getting you shit stored and possibly seeing if any family is willing to put your mother and brother up for a while.

---For job searching, I would not limit what you are willing to do at this point, from my own experience, look to 2nd/3rd shifts in warehouse/CSR work, or overnight crew in retail, they tend to pay more outright due to the fucked up hours. From my current search in Central Jersey, most of my jobs have offered starting pay between $12-$14 an hour, 2 jobs much higher pay but I was shot down for lack of a degree over superior experience. ƒ¼ Getting my ass back in school soon as I can get a new job

Mightion Defensor
posted 01-18-2006 12:02:46 AM
The previous landlord vanished. Even the address when my mother sent the rent checks was foreclosed. It was totally empty when the police went there to serve the notices.

...and it's real easy to say how easy it is/was to find a job when you have one. I couldn't even get the job opening envelopes at the book company. :/

Mr. Parcelan
posted 01-18-2006 12:04:02 AM
The landlord hasn't been paying the mortgage, but you've been paying rent? Isn't there something you can do about that?
Mightion Defensor
posted 01-18-2006 12:06:59 AM
quote:
It has been ordained by Primus, that there will be a Chosen One who will use the Matrix to "light our darkest hour." That darkest hour may come sooner if Mr. Parcelan keeps posting things like this:
The landlord hasn't been paying the mortgage, but you've been paying rent? Isn't there something you can do about that?

Yeah... both my mother and my brother stopped sending him the rent checks.

The sad but ironic fact is the landlord never made a single payment on the mortgage for the 3+ years he's owned this house... and the mortgage payment amount was such that *we* could have been paying the mortgage payments easily if we'd bought the place when the previous owner sold it.

Mightion Defensor fucked around with this message on 01-18-2006 at 12:09 AM.

BeauChan
Objects in sigpic may be hammier than they appear
posted 01-18-2006 12:07:21 AM
quote:
How much Mightion Defensor can a Mightion Defensor-chuck chuck?
The previous landlord vanished. Even the address when my mother sent the rent checks was foreclosed. It was totally empty when the police went there to serve the notices.

...and it's real easy to say how easy it is/was to find a job when you have one. I couldn't even get the job opening envelopes at the book company. :/


It's time to start applying to the places that aren't hiring. Who knows, they may be about to fire someone whose job you can take. Rough, but true.

Endured by EC for over 7 years and counting...
Mod
Pancake
posted 01-18-2006 12:11:06 AM
quote:
Mr. Parcelan had this to say about Captain Planet:
The landlord hasn't been paying the mortgage, but you've been paying rent? Isn't there something you can do about that?

He could sue the landlord to have the lease upheld or for him to pay costs which resulted from his failing to uphold his end of the contract, but since the landlord is apparently utterly bankrupt he won't have much luck with that since there are much more influential debtors like banks fighting over the proceeds from the bankruptcy. There may be local renter protection laws that could help him however.

Life... is like a box of chocolates. A cheap, thoughtless, perfunctory gift that nobody ever asks for. Unreturnable, because all you get back is another box of chocolates. You're stuck with this undefinable whipped-mint crap that you mindlessly wolf down when there's nothing else left to eat. Sure, once in a while, there's a peanut butter cup, or an English toffee. But they're gone too fast, the taste is fleeting. So you end up with nothing but broken bits, filled with hardened jelly and teeth-crunching nuts, and if you're desperate enough to eat those, all you've got left is a... is an empty box... filled with useless, brown paper wrappers.
Peter
Pancake
posted 01-18-2006 12:22:15 AM
quote:
Mightion Defensor impressed everyone with:
The previous landlord vanished. Even the address when my mother sent the rent checks was foreclosed. It was totally empty when the police went there to serve the notices.
....

Then Contact the bank were your security is supposed to be held?

Reynar
Oldest Member
Best Lap
posted 01-18-2006 01:11:29 AM
I'm not going judge your actions in this situation, but if I were in your shoes I would certainly:

-Be looking at the want-ads in the paper constantly, there's always temp work out there who will train you on the job (you live in Buffalo correct? there should be no shortage of unskilled labor temp positions in a town that size)

-Have applied to every major fastfood restaurant/grocery store/retail store in the area.

-Sold my PC (and any other non-essential things I can do without), Libraries have free internet access if you need to check email/look for jobs online.

-Contacted friends & associates to see if they know of anyone who needs a worker

This is all stuff that you need to simply swallow your pride and do. When faced with unemployment, there is no job beneath you. Work at the crappy temp jobs while still looking for a more permanent career.

It'll suck but it's better than living on the street.

Reynar fucked around with this message on 01-18-2006 at 01:13 AM.

"Give me control of a nation's money, and I care not who makes its laws."
-Mayer Rothschild
Azakias
Never wore the pants, thus still wields the power of unused (_|_)
posted 01-18-2006 01:22:06 AM
If push comes to shove, there is always a shelter for short term. The option sounds like it sucks, but shelters are there to help more than the bums who refuse to work.

As mentioned earlier, government subsidized housing.

Hell, if you were a bit younger, I would advise the military. Even going in as E1 will give you a decent paycheck, and since you get paid for your time in training, you would be able to arrange for the money to be sent to a bank that your mother or brother has access to, and bam, instant rent deposit and guarenteed employment for 4 years. Sign your mother up as your dependant, and you're set.

If you arent TOO much older than 36, you may even be able to apply for a waver...

"Age by age have men stood up and said to the world, 'From what has come before me, I was forged, but I am new and greater than my forebears.' And so each man walks the world in ruin, abandoned and untried. Less than the whole of his being"
Trent
Smurfberry Moneyshot
posted 01-18-2006 01:31:00 AM
Perhaps you should consider less appropriate jobs. Fast food comes to mind.

Seems you are at the point where being picky isn't an option.

You do have a car, pizza delivery could even be considered.

-postroliphophus-
Pancake
posted 01-18-2006 01:38:30 AM
quote:
Trent had this to say about Matthew Broderick:

You do have a car, pizza delivery could even be considered.


I agree, Im a pizza delivery driver right now and its a pretty good job for the money. I live in sort of a small town too, and I still make at least 10 bucks an hour. Im sure living in Buffalo would bring in much much more. The only catch is you'll need a reliable car. Ive been working as a delivery guy for about a year now and its really taken a beating to my car. Gas is also a matter, but its small compared to how much I make.

New Age Bane
Waste Management Crisis
posted 01-18-2006 01:43:47 AM
Craigslist! If you haven't already. Lots of great jobs on that site, not just apartments, or personals.

Cheer up, it'll work out, ending the story isn't always the best choice.

What am I supposed to in here again? Oh yes something witty and oh so pretty!
Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael
I posted in a title changing thread.
posted 01-18-2006 07:33:28 AM
Yeah MightiMaus, I have to concur. At this point, you can't hold out for a job in your field. And for the record, you can't drop an application off and leave it at that. You have to chase after the places you applied to. I pestered the HR person at Polaris when she seemed to be not doing anything with my resume prior to getting hired. Don't be obnoxious, but make sure they know you're still interested.

Push come to shove, though, get a shitty job. A job is a job. Might not be glamorous, but it brings in money.

I disagree with selling the computer, though. Fact is your computer won't go for much at a pawn shop, if you wipe the HD someone might still find your information, and it costs a hell of a lot more to get a computer back than you got selling it.

Lyinar's sweetie and don't you forget it!*
"All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die. -Roy Batty
*Also Lyinar's attack panda

sigpic courtesy of This Guy, original modified by me

Maradon!
posted 01-18-2006 11:14:28 AM
It ain't going to be quite as comfortable as it used to be.

That's all it boils down to.

I'm going through something quite similar right now.

Jackman
Racist Hermaphroditic Midget
posted 01-18-2006 11:37:59 AM
quote:
Maradon! had this to say about Jimmy Carter:

I'm going through something quite similar right now.



comforts Maradon.

Suppose we all chip in to a PP account and help these people?

Peter: I'm not afraid of anything, I laugh in the face of Death. See HAHAHAHA.
Death: Oh great! Thanks a lot. As if it wasnt already hard enough to fit in.

Some people are like Slinkys... Not really good for anything, But they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs.

BeauChan
Objects in sigpic may be hammier than they appear
posted 01-18-2006 05:39:05 PM
quote:
Mix Jackman with water, and you get:
comforts Maradon.

Suppose we all chip in to a PP account and help these people?


To be totally honest, The amount we could scrape together won't help two people in financial trouble.

Endured by EC for over 7 years and counting...
Taeldian
Pancake
posted 01-18-2006 10:45:41 PM
quote:
Verily, Mightion Defensor doth proclaim:
This Week: World of Warcraft 78 Hours
Kaiote
Shot in the Face
posted 01-19-2006 06:04:06 AM
Thats what I was thinking... Average of about 9 hours a day in WoW.. Not to be a total dick, but how many hours a day does he average looking for a job? Yeah, I know.. You can only look so many hours a day.. but at an average of 9 hours a day in game.. that means he's losing sleep time or looking for work time to a game.

Dont get me wrong.. I've done the whole "Breadlines" thing before. You and all your friends need jobs.. nobody seems to be hiring. Or if they are hiring, they aren't hiring YOU. You finally land a job only to be layed off.. But I was never to proud or too picky to sling pizza for a few bucks.

And I actually LIKE Mightion. Yeah, I could be nice and all that, and say It'll be ok.. shit'll get better, you just hang in there, pal. But the house went up for auction last week, and he's spent 60+ hours in WoW since then. He needs a wakeup call, not a buncha sugar coated "The world is a happy place" bullshit.

Henry had been killed by a garden gnome.He had fallen off the roof onto that cheerful-looking figure. The gnome was made of concrete. Henry wasn't. - Dean Koontz, Velocity
Liam
Swims in Erotic Circles
posted 01-19-2006 07:20:56 AM
Stop ragging on him for playing WoW for 9 hours a day, guys. Employers love that shit.
Karnaj
Road Warrior Queef
posted 01-19-2006 11:09:40 AM
quote:
Jackman screamed this from the crapper:
comforts Maradon.

Suppose we all chip in to a PP account and help these people?


Last time we did that, I don't think it worked out well at all.

That's the American Dream: to make your life into something you can sell. - Chuck Palahniuk, Haunted

Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite. - John Kenneth Galbraith



Beer.

Jackman
Racist Hermaphroditic Midget
posted 01-19-2006 11:17:46 AM
What happened? and who was it for?
Peter: I'm not afraid of anything, I laugh in the face of Death. See HAHAHAHA.
Death: Oh great! Thanks a lot. As if it wasnt already hard enough to fit in.

Some people are like Slinkys... Not really good for anything, But they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs.

Mod
Pancake
posted 01-19-2006 11:52:34 AM
Must have been really long ago, I don't remember anything like that either.
Life... is like a box of chocolates. A cheap, thoughtless, perfunctory gift that nobody ever asks for. Unreturnable, because all you get back is another box of chocolates. You're stuck with this undefinable whipped-mint crap that you mindlessly wolf down when there's nothing else left to eat. Sure, once in a while, there's a peanut butter cup, or an English toffee. But they're gone too fast, the taste is fleeting. So you end up with nothing but broken bits, filled with hardened jelly and teeth-crunching nuts, and if you're desperate enough to eat those, all you've got left is a... is an empty box... filled with useless, brown paper wrappers.
Mightion Defensor
posted 01-19-2006 01:00:07 PM
Well, my brother is in the process of trying to buy this place. He works for a bank, though not the bank that bought this place - that's out in Utah somewhere.

For the record, I bought WoW with my Christmas money and that "9 hours a day" is mainly from after dinner to about 2-4 am. A lot of weekday afternoons I go to my other brother's house from 2-5:30 pm to watch his kids when they get home from school until he or his wife get home.

And I don't want you guys to send us money, that's not why I posted this.

Jackman
Racist Hermaphroditic Midget
posted 01-19-2006 01:04:10 PM
I have a friend in New York who might be able to get you a computer related job if your resume is good enough. He is the IT director of a small company there.
Peter: I'm not afraid of anything, I laugh in the face of Death. See HAHAHAHA.
Death: Oh great! Thanks a lot. As if it wasnt already hard enough to fit in.

Some people are like Slinkys... Not really good for anything, But they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs.

Reynar
Oldest Member
Best Lap
posted 01-19-2006 01:45:37 PM
quote:
Mightion Defensor obviously shouldn't have said:
Well, my brother is in the process of trying to buy this place. He works for a bank, though not the bank that bought this place - that's out in Utah somewhere.

For the record, I bought WoW with my Christmas money and that "9 hours a day" is mainly from after dinner to about 2-4 am. A lot of weekday afternoons I go to my other brother's house from 2-5:30 pm to watch his kids when they get home from school until he or his wife get home.

And I don't want you guys to send us money, that's not why I posted this.


Seriously dude, no flame here or anything, but why are you not working a low end fast food, pizza dlivery, grocery store, or retail position until you can find some decent employment?

I know it's not good money and the work sucks, but it's better than a kick in the ass.

"Give me control of a nation's money, and I care not who makes its laws."
-Mayer Rothschild
Jackman
Racist Hermaphroditic Midget
posted 01-19-2006 07:42:53 PM
Solution
Peter: I'm not afraid of anything, I laugh in the face of Death. See HAHAHAHA.
Death: Oh great! Thanks a lot. As if it wasnt already hard enough to fit in.

Some people are like Slinkys... Not really good for anything, But they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs.

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