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Mooj
Scorned Fanboy
posted 12-10-2005 10:04:14 PM
Okay, another hardware question! This time, it's what I think is probably a really easy one.

For a casual gamer, is there any noteworthy difference between the GeForce 6800, 6800GT, 6800GS, And the 6800 Ultra? I know that there are differences, but what I don't know is what they are, and if I'll notice them in the course of normal gaming.

BetaTested
Not gay, but loves the cock!
posted 12-10-2005 11:50:28 PM
6800 is the base. It's not bad, but not great. If you get an AGP version, you can possibly unlock 4 extra pipe lines to make it a full fleged 16 pipe card, increasing performance.

The 6800GT is obviously the bigger brother of the 6800. It's clocked faster, and has 16 pipes by default, making it quite a good card. I invested in one last January, and it's still serving me quite well.

The 6800Ultra is clocked even faster than the 6800GT. That's about the only difference. Well, it's meant to withstand it better, and has 2 molex power connectors on the AGP version instead of just one. Too expensive to justify it when you can get a 7 for a little more dough last I checked.

The 6800GS is a higher clocked version of the 6800. It still only has 12 pipes, but is about as fast as a 6800GT. It's a good investment if you're only going to go to a 6 series instead of a 7 at this point.


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Ian Benjamin
Pancake
posted 12-11-2005 12:16:08 AM
So is an Nvidia 6600 not even passing anymore for stuff like WoW?
Ian Benjamin
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Falaanla Marr
I AM HOT CHIX
posted 12-11-2005 12:44:19 AM
quote:
ACES! Another post by Ian Benjamin:
So is an Nvidia 6600 not even passing anymore for stuff like WoW?

i'm using a 9800XT just fine, which i believe is a little slower than the 6600 series.

Alaan
posted 12-11-2005 01:20:07 AM
quote:
Ian Benjamin had this to say about Cuba:
So is an Nvidia 6600 not even passing anymore for stuff like WoW?

Any 6x00 will run any modern game decently. You just won't be getting sploogeworthy FPS at 1600x1200 with full details.

And WoW isn't really a good measure of graphics. A light system can handle it pretty well.

Alaan fucked around with this message on 12-11-2005 at 01:20 AM.

Alidane
Urinary Tract Infection
posted 12-11-2005 01:22:31 AM
quote:
There was much rejoicing when Ian Benjamin said this:
So is an Nvidia 6600 not even passing anymore for stuff like WoW?

I have a 6600 GT that performs admirably under BF2, which is far more demanding than WoW.

Ian Benjamin
Pancake
posted 12-11-2005 01:30:57 AM
Cool. I'm rebuilding my comp as well, so I was surprised to see only the 6800s being discussed for a "casual gamer". Wanted to make sure I hadn't lost touch with gaming reality. Thanks for the reassurance guys.
Ian Benjamin
(MJER)

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Mooj
Scorned Fanboy
posted 12-11-2005 05:26:56 AM
Thank you very much! That's exactly the answer that I was looking for.
Mooj
Scorned Fanboy
posted 12-20-2005 06:31:39 AM
Okay, apparently I was in far more over my head than I thought. Apparently, there's a metric fuck ton of different GeForce 6800 cards out there, some of which look good, some of which look like crap, and all of which seem to indicate that I have no idea what the fuck I'm looking for.

Could I please request that someone point out an exact card that they would choose with a $300 price limit, bearing in mind that I don't mess around with overclocking or anything because I don't know how to do that shit? I need something that I can be reasonably happy with right out of the box.

Blackened
posted 12-20-2005 08:01:00 AM
XFX GeForce 7800 GT 256mb PCI-E. $289.00 after $20 MIR.

Though I doubt you have a PCI-E capable motherboard. You should probably look into getting one.

Blackened fucked around with this message on 12-20-2005 at 08:01 AM.


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Mooj
Scorned Fanboy
posted 12-20-2005 09:21:33 AM
Seeing as I have no idea what that is, I have a sneaking suspicion that you're right. Got any other choices?
Blackened
posted 12-20-2005 09:33:36 AM
quote:
Mooj.
Seeing as I have no idea what that is, I have a sneaking suspicion that you're right. Got any other choices?
Buy a PCI-E motherboard. AGP is old technology now and is currently being phased out of the market.

PCI-E is not only faster but generally cheaper. So the money you spend replacing your motherboard will be made up for the money you save buying a PCI-E card over an AGP card.


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what I'm about to do isn't personal.
Mooj
Scorned Fanboy
posted 12-20-2005 07:04:56 PM
While I'm sure that's very good advice, it is well beyond my price range at the moment. Unless the technology is going to be completely phased out in a year, I'm just looking for a video card right now.
Mortious
Gluttonous Overlard
posted 12-20-2005 09:20:35 PM
If you have an AGP slot, get the ATi X850 XT Platnium, which is blazingly fast still even if it's oldish technology.

No need to shell out cash for a completely new motherboard, CPU, etc just for PCI-E. A good AGP card will last you years still.

Sakkra
Office Linebacker
posted 12-20-2005 10:27:31 PM
quote:
Mortious was listening to Cher while typing:
If you have an AGP slot, get the ATi X850 XT Platnium, which is blazingly fast still even if it's oldish technology.

No need to shell out cash for a completely new motherboard, CPU, etc just for PCI-E. A good AGP card will last you years still.


Is this good?

Noxhil2
Pancake
posted 12-20-2005 10:46:01 PM
quote:
Mortious had this to say about Tron:
If you have an AGP slot, get the ATi X850 XT Platnium, which is blazingly fast still even if it's oldish technology.

No need to shell out cash for a completely new motherboard, CPU, etc just for PCI-E. A good AGP card will last you years still.


Err, that's a 400 dollar card, or about twice as expensive as the cards mentioned in the first post.

Mortious
Gluttonous Overlard
posted 12-20-2005 10:52:07 PM
quote:
Noxhil2 said:
Err, that's a 400 dollar card, or about twice as expensive as the cards mentioned in the first post.

He wanted AGP. *shrug* Get the non-Platinum version if he wants to save money. It's only slightly slower.

With mine and my CPU, I don't have to upgrade for another 2-3 years. Considering the FX5900 Ultra I had only started to get slow recently and I've had one ever since they came out.

Mooj
Scorned Fanboy
posted 12-21-2005 02:08:12 AM
Damn good looking card, but it's also about a hundred bucks too expensive..
Mortious
Gluttonous Overlard
posted 12-21-2005 02:28:22 AM
quote:
Mooj said:
Damn good looking card, but it's also about a hundred bucks too expensive..

Try the X800 XT instead of the X850 then. The X850 is the top-top-top AGP card and kicks the ass of all but the fastest PCI-E cards.

Maradon!
posted 12-21-2005 03:03:14 AM
I'd like to take this time to point out that it's going to be a few generations yet until PCI-E cards start signifigantly outperforming AGP cards.
Noxhil2
Pancake
posted 12-21-2005 05:09:22 PM
quote:
Maradon!'s fortune cookie read:
I'd like to take this time to point out that it's going to be a few generations yet until PCI-E cards start signifigantly outperforming AGP cards.

But they're already cheaper.

Alaan
posted 12-22-2005 12:02:53 AM
quote:
Noxhil2 thought about the meaning of life:
But they're already cheaper.

BUt not if you have to buy the PCI-E board and a new shiny socket 939 processor. Getting a PCI-E card is not reason enough to upgrade on its own.

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