This is actually pretty cool for a YTMND

Maradon! fucked around with this message on 12-06-2005 at 03:08 AM.

edit: other than the slipup and the edit, very cool.

edit2: But i'll be damned if that nine sounding like a one doesn't throw the rythem in my head off every time

diadem fucked around with this message on 12-06-2005 at 08:08 AM.

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See, your Aury means your hair. So technically it's true.
MP3 please. =)

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It's like listening to sirensong, only they're singing numbers.

1545 - A cookbook from the mid 16th century that also includes some account of domestic life, cookery and feasts in Tudor days, called A Proper newe Booke of Cokerye, declarynge what maner of meates be beste in season, for al times in the yere, and how they ought to be dressed, and serued at the table, bothe for fleshe dayes, and fyshe dayes, has a recipe for a short paest for tarte:

To Make Short Paest for Tarte - Take fyne floure and a cursey of fayre water and a dysche of swete butter and a lyttel saffron, and the yolckes of two egges and make it thynne and as tender as ye maye.

1553 - From the English translation by Valoise Armstrong of the 1553 German cookbook Kochbunch der Sabina Welserine, includes a recipe for pastry dough:

61 - To make a pastry dough for all shaped pies - Take flour, the best that you can get, about two handfuls, depending on how large or small you would have the pie. Put it on the table and with a knife stir in two eggs and a little salt. Put water in a small pan and a piece of fat the size of two good eggs, let it all dissolve together and boil. Afterwards pour it on the flour on the table and make a strong dough and work it well, however you feel is right. If it is summer, one must take meat broth instead of water and in the place of the fat the skimmings from the broth. When the dough is kneaded, then make of it a round ball and draw it out well on the sides with the fingers or with a rolling pin, so that in the middle a raised area remains, then let it chill in the cold. Afterwards shape the dough as I have pointed out to you. Also reserve dough for the cover and roll it out into a cover and take water and spread it over the top of the cover and the top of the formed pastry shell and join it together well with the fingers. Leave a small hole. And see that it is pressed together well, so that it does not come open. Blow in the small hole which you have left, then the cover will lift itself up. Then quickly press the hole closed. Afterwards put it in the oven. Sprinkle flour in the dish beforehand. Take care that the oven is properly heated, then it will be a pretty pastry. The dough for all shaped pastries is made in this manner.

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Historians have recorded that the roots of pie can loosely be traced back to the ancient Egyptians. The bakers to the pharaohs incorporated nuts, honey, and fruits in bread dough, a primitive form of pastry. Drawings of this can be found etched on the tomb walls of Ramses II, located in the Valley of the Kings. King Ramses II was the third pharoh in the nineteenth dynasty. He ruled from 1304 to 1237 B.C. After years of the tombe being looted and weathered, great amounts of effort are in progress with the hope of returning the tomb to a somewhat presentable stage.

Historians believe that the Greeks actually originated pie pastry. The pies during this period were made by a flour-water paste wrapped around meat; this served to cook the meat and seal in the juices.

The Romans, sampling the delicacy, carried home recipes for making it (a prize of victory when they conquered Greece). The wealthy and educated Romans used various types of meat in every course of the meal, including the dessert course (secundae mensea). According to historical records, oysters, mussels, lampreys, and other meats and fish were normal in Roman puddings. It is thought that the puddings were a lot like pies..

The Roman statesman, Marcus Porcius Cato (234-149 B.C.), also know as Cato the Elder, wrote a treatise on agriculture called De Agricultura. He loved delicacies and recorded a recipe for his era's most popular pie/cake called Placenta. They were also called libum by the Romans, and were primarily used as an offering to their gods. Placenta was more like a cheesecake, baked on a pastry base, or sometimes inside a pastry case.

The delights of the pie spread throughout Europe, via the Roman roads, where every country adapted the recipes to their customs and foods.

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14th, 15th, and 16th Century

Animated pies or pyes were the most popular banquet entertainment. The nursery rhyme "Sing a Song of Sixpence . . . four and twenty blackbirds baked in a pie," refers to such a pie. According to the rhyme, "When the pie was opened, the birds began to sing. Wasn't that a dainty dish to set before the King." In all likelihood, those birds not only sang, but flew briskly out at the assembled guests. Rabbits, frogs, turtles, other small animals, and even small people (dwarfs) were also set into pies, either alone or with birds, to be released when the crust was cut. The dwarf would emerge and walk down the length of the table, reciting poetry, sketching the guests, or doing tricks.

13th Century - A Tortoise or Mullet Pie was in the 13th century cookbook called An Anonymous Andalusian Cookbook of the Thirteenth Century, translated by Charles Perry:

Tortoise or Mullet Pie - Simmer the tortoises lightly in water with salt, then remove from the water and take a little murri, pepper, cinnamon, a little oil, onion juice, cilantro and a little saffron; beat it all with eggs and arrange the tortoises and the mullets in the pie and throw over it the filling. The pastry for the pie should be kneaded strongly, and kneaded with some pepper and oil, and greased, when it is done, with the eggs and saffron.

14th Century - During Charles V (1364-1380), King of France, reign, the important event at banquets was not dishes of food but acts such as minstrels, magicians, jugglers, and dancers.

The chefs entered into the fun by producing elaborate "soteltie" or "subtilty." Sotelties were food disguised in an ornamental way (sculptures made from edible ingredients but not always intended to be eaten or even safe to eat). In the 14th to 17th centuries, the sotelty was not always a food, but any kind of entertainment to include minstrels, troubadours, acrobats, dancers and other performers. The sotelty was used to alleviate the boredom of waiting for the next course to appear and to entertain the guest. If possible, the sotelty was supposed to make the guests gasp with delight and to be amazed at the ingenuity of the sotelty maker.

During this time period, the Duke of Burgundy's chef made an immense pie which opened to the strains of 28 musicians playing from within the pie. Out of the pie came a captive girl representing the "captive" Church in the Middle East.

15th Century - At the coronation of eight-year old English King Henry VI (1422-1461) in 1429, a partridge pie, called "Partryche and Pecock enhackyll," was served. This dish consisted of a cooked peacock mounted in its skin, placed on top of a large pie.. Other birds like partridges, swans, bitterns and herons were frequently placed on top of pies for ornament and as a means of identifying the contents.

1626 - Jeffrey Hudson (1619-1682), famous 17th century dwarf, was served up in a cold pie as a child. England's King Charles I (1600-1649) and 15-year old Queen Henrietta Maria passed through Rutland and were being entertained at a banquet being given in their honor by the Duke and Duckess of Buckingha. At the dinner, an enormous crust-covered pie was brought before the royal couple. Before the Queen could cut into the pie, the crust began to rise and from the pie emerged a tiny man, perfectly proportioned boy, but only 18 inches tall named Jeffrey Hudson. Hudson, seven years old the smallest human being that anyone had ever seen, was dressed in a suit of miniature armor climbed out of a gilded pastry pie stood shyly on the table in front of the Queen and bowed low. Hudson was later dubbed Lord Minimus.

Hudson would remain with the queen for the next 18 years, serving as the Queen's Dwarf, where he became a trusted companion and court favorite. His after being a court favorite were just as interesting. He was kidnapped by pirates twice, his portrait was painted by Van Dyck, and then he spent the next quarter-century as a slave in North Africa.

16th Century - In the English translated version of Epulario (The Italian Banquet), published in 1598, the following is written on making pies:

To Make Pie That the Birds May Be Alive In them and Flie Out When It Is Cut Up - Make the coffin of a great pie or pastry, in the bottome thereof make a hole as big as your fist, or bigger if you will, let the sides of the coffin bee somwhat higher then ordinary pies, which done put it full of flower and bake it, and being baked, open the hole in the bottome, and take out the flower. Then having a pie of the bigness of the hole in the bottome of the coffin aforesaid, you shal put it into the coffin, withall put into the said coffin round about the aforesaid pie as many small live birds as the empty coffin will hold, besides the pie aforesaid. And this is to be at such time as you send the pie to the table, and set before the guests: where uncovering or cutting up the lid of the great pie, all the birds will flie out, which is to delight and pleasure shew to the company. And because they shall not bee altogether mocked, you shall cut open the small pie, and in this sort you may make many others, the like you may do with a tart.

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17th, 18th and 19th Century

English women were baking pies long before the settlers came to America. The pie was an English specialty that was unrivaled in other European cuisines. Two early examples of the English meat pies were shepherd's pie and cottage pie. Shepherd's pie was made with lamb and vegetables, and the cottage pie was made with beef and vegetable. Both are topped with potatoes.

1620 - The Pilgrims brought their favorite family pie recipes with them to America. The colonist and their pies adapted simultaneously to the ingredients and techniques available to them in the New World. At first, they baked pie with berries and fruits pointed out to them by the Native Americans. Colonial women used round pans literally to cut corners and stretch the ingredients (for the same reason they baked shallow pies).

1700s - Pioneer women often served pies with every meal, thus firmly cementing this pastry into a unique form of American culture. With food at the heart of gatherings and celebrations, pie quickly moved to the forefront of contests at county fairs, picnics, and other social events. As settlers moved westward, American regional pies developed. Pies are continually being adapted to changing conditions and ingredients.

Rev. George Acrelius published in Stockhold in 1796, A Description of the Present and Former State at the Swedish Congregations in New Sweden, where he describes the eating of apple pie all the year:

"Apple-pie was used all the year, the evening meal of children. House-pie, in country places is make of apples neither peeled nor freed from the cores, and its crust is not broken if a agon-wheel goes over it!"

A Pie of Sweetbreads was one of George Washington's, the first President of the United States, favorite pie recipes, which are taken from Martha's Historic Cook Book, a possessions of the Pennsylvania Historical Society. Martha Washington (1731-1802) was an excellent cook and the book features some of the dishes that were prepared by the original First Lady in her colonial kitchen at Mount Vernon. Following is the modern-day version of the recipe:

Pie of Sweetbreads - Drop a sweetbread into acidulated, salted boiling water and cook slowly for 20 minutes. Plunge into cold water. Drain and cut into cubes. Stew a pint of oysters until the edges curl. Add two tablespoons of butter creamed with one tablespoon of flour, one cup cream and the yolks of three eggs well beaten. Season with salt and pepper to taste. Line a deep baking dish with puff paste (dough). Put in a layer of oysters, then a layer of sweetbreads until the dish is nearly full. Pour the sauce over all and put a crust on top. Bake until the paste is a delicate brown. This is one of the most delicate pies that can be made.

1800s - Whenever Emperor William I of Germany visited Queen Victoria (1819-1901) of England, his favorite pie was served. It contained a whole turkey stuffed with a chicken, the chicken stuffed with a pheasant, the pheasant stuffed with a woodcock.

1880-1910 - Samuel Clemens (1835-1910), a.k.a. Mark Twain, was a big fan of eating pies. His life-long housekeeper and friend (she was with the family for 30 years), Katy Leary, often baked Huckleberry pie to lure her master into breaking his habit of going without lunch. According to The American Heritage Cookbook, Katy Leary said in her book on Mark Twain:

She ordered a pie every morning, she said, recalling a period in which Twain was depressed. "Then I'd get a quart of milk and put it on the ice, and have it all ready - the huckleberry pie and the cold milk - about one o'clock. He eat half the huckleberry pie, anyway, and drink all the milk."

During a trip to Europe in 1878, he felt nothing but disdain for the European food he encountered. He composed a list of foods that he looked forward to eating on his return to the United States. In his 1880 book, A Tramp Abroad, he wrote: "It has now been many months, at the present writing, since I have had a nourishing meal, but I shall soon have one--a modest, private affair, all to myself. I have selected a few dishes, and made out a little bill of fare, which will go home in the steamer that precedes me, and be hot when I arrive. . ." On his long list of foods was apple pie, peach pie, American mince pie, pumpkin pie, and squash pie. He also had a recipe for English Pie:

RECIPE FOR NEW ENGLISH PIE - To make this excellent breakfast dish, proceed as follows:
Take a sufficiency of water and a sufficiency of flour, and construct a bullet-proof dough. Work this into the form of a disk, with the edges turned up some three-fourths of an inch. Toughen and kiln-dry in a couple days in a mild but unvarying temperature. Construct a cover for this redoubt in the same way and of the same material. Fill with stewed dried apples; aggravate with cloves, lemon-peel, and
slabs of citron; add two portions of New Orleans sugars, then solder on the lid and set in a safe place till it petrifies. Serve cold at breakfast and invite your enemy.

1900s - The appetite of James Buchanan Brady (1856–1917), known as Diamond Jim Brady, a legendary glutton and ladies' man, was awesome. One dinner that Brady particularly liked to recall was arranged by architect Stanford White (1853-1906). A huge pie was wheeled in, a dancer emerged, unclothed, and walked the length of the banquet table, stopping at Brady's seat and falling into his lap. As she spoon-fed the millionaire, more dancers appeared and attended to the feeding needs of the other guests. Brady was known to finish lunch with an array of pies (not slices of different pies, but several pies). It was said that would begin his meal by sitting six inches from the table and would quit only when his stomach rubbed uncomfortably against the edge. George Rector, a New York restaurateur said he was "the best twenty-five customers I ever had."

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Table of computation of Pi from 2000 BC to now

Babylonians 2000? BCE 1 3.125 = 3 + 1/8
Egyptians 2000? BCE 1 3.16045
China 1200? BCE 1 3
Bible (1 Kings 7:23) 550? BCE 1 3
Archimedes 250? BCE 3 3.1418 (ave.)
Hon Han Shu 130 AD 1 3.1622 = sqrt(10) ?
Ptolemy 150 3 3.14166
Chung Hing 250? 1 3.16227 = sqrt(10)
Wang Fau 250? 1 3.15555 = 142/45
Liu Hui 263 5 3.14159
Siddhanta 380 3 3.1416
Tsu Ch'ung Chi 480? 7 3.1415926
Aryabhata 499 4 3.14156
Brahmagupta 640? 1 3.162277 = sqrt(10)
Al-Khowarizmi 800 4 3.1416
Fibonacci 1220 3 3.141818
Al-Kashi 1429 14
Otho 1573 6 3.1415929
Viete 1593 9 3.1415926536 (ave.)
Romanus 1593 15
Van Ceulen 1596 20
Van Ceulen 1615 35
Newton 1665 16
Sharp 1699 71
Seki 1700? 10
Kamata 1730? 25
Machin 1706 100
De Lagny 1719 127 (112 correct)
Takebe 1723 41
Matsunaga 1739 50
Vega 1794 140
Rutherford 1824 208 (152 correct)
Strassnitzky and Dase 1844 200
Clausen 1847 248
Lehmann 1853 261
Rutherford 1853 440
Shanks 1874 707 (527 correct)

The 20'th century
Ferguson 1946 620
Ferguson Jan. 1947 710
Ferguson and Wrench Sep. 1947 808
Smith and Wrench 1949 1,120
Reitwiesner et al. (ENIAC) 1949 2,037
Nicholson and Jeenel 1954 3,092
Felton 1957 7,480
Genuys Jan. 1958 10,000
Felton May 1958 10,021
Guilloud 1959 16,167
Shanks and Wrench 1961 100,265
Guilloud and Filliatre 1966 250,000
Guilloud and Dichampt 1967 500,000
Guilloud and Bouyer 1973 1,001,250
Miyoshi and Kanada 1981 2,000,036
Guilloud 1982 2,000,050
Tamura 1982 2,097,144
Tamura and Kanada 1982 4,194,288
Tamura and Kanada 1982 8,388,576
Kanada, Yoshino and Tamura 1982 16,777,206
Ushiro and Kanada Oct. 1983 10,013,395
Gosper 1985 17,526,200
Bailey Jan. 1986 29,360,111
Kanada and Tamura Sep. 1986 33,554,414
Kanada and Tamura Oct. 1986 67,108,839
Kanada, Tamura, Kubo et al Jan. 1987 134,217,700
Kanada and Tamura Jan. 1988 201,326,551
Chudnovskys May 1989 480,000,000
Chudnovskys Jun. 1989 525,229,270
Kanada and Tamura Jul. 1989 536,870,898
Kanada and Tamura Nov. 1989 1,073,741,799
Chudnovskys Aug. 1989 1,011,196,691
Chudnovskys Aug. 1991 2,260,000,000
Chudnovskys May 1994 4,044,000,000
Takahashi and Kanada Jun. 1995 3,221,225,466
Takahashi and Kanada Aug. 1995 4,294,967,286
Takahashi and Kanada Oct. 1995 6,442,450,938

The n'th binary digit
Bailey, Borwein, Plouffe Nov. 1995 40,000,000,000 (hexa 921C73C6838FB2)
Bellard Jul. 1996 200,000,000,000 (hexa 1A10A49B3E2B82A4404F9193AD4EB6)
Bellard Oct. 1996 400,000,000,000 (hexa 9C381872D27596F81D0E48B95A6C46)

The next time you copy/paste some random shit, you're banned.

"That was not random it was on the topic of PI. PIE then PI and finally the sorority Alpha Delta PI. A classic line of humor."

I'm tempted to get rid of him based on this alone.

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Mr. Parcelan's fortune cookie read:
Jackman just recently sent me this PM:

"That was not random it was on the topic of PI. PIE then PI and finally the sorority Alpha Delta PI. A classic line of humor."

I'm tempted to get rid of him based on this alone.

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I am sorry I tried to privately disagree with you.

Jackman fucked around with this message on 12-06-2005 at 01:28 PM.

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Ruvyen had this to say about pies:
Why would anyone bother to calculate furhter than about twelve or so digits into Pi? After a certain point, the difference becomes insignificant.

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Mathsturbation.

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Sean had this to say about Robocop:
Mathsturbation.

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Shit, I completely forgot about that!

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Verily, the chocolate bunny rabits doth run and play while Mr. Parcelan gently hums:
Jackman just recently sent me this PM:

"That was not random it was on the topic of PI. PIE then PI and finally the sorority Alpha Delta PI. A classic line of humor."

I'm tempted to get rid of him based on this alone.

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Give in to temptation.

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Mr. Parcelan obviously shouldn't have said:
Jackman just recently sent me this PM:

"That was not random it was on the topic of PI. PIE then PI and finally the sorority Alpha Delta PI. A classic line of humor."

I'm tempted to get rid of him based on this alone.

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I dunno. That PM is pretty retarded, but I don't think it's "ban him" retarded.

I agree that the constant copying/pasting, however, does need to stop. It's one thing to occasionally start a thread by copying and pasting a news story and attempting to discuss it, it's another thing entirely if most of your posts are plagiarised from elsewhere. If we want to see other people's words, we'll search for them on Google.

[EDIT- Missed "is". This is why I don't claim expertise with English.]

Ruvyen fucked around with this message on 12-06-2005 at 02:35 PM.

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We were all impressed when Sean wrote:
Mathsturbation.

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You sound like Sylvester the Cat when you say that out loud.

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Peanut butter ass Shaq Jackman booooze lime pole over bench lick:
I am sorry I tried to privately disagree with you.

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Actually, it was extremely irritating just to see all that shit that you pasted for no reason.

I even went and put you on ignore for it.

Who would have thought.

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LeMiere thought about the meaning of life:
http://keithschofield.com/pi/std.html

Who would have thought.

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I think I speak for a majority of the boards when I say...

WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT?!

Fuck Photobucket, too.

Looks like a want to be or before present day "ZOOM" kids show.

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OrangeBrand wrote, obviously thinking too hard:
Zap

Looks like a want to be or before present day "ZOOM" kids show.

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Is english not your primary language? Who the hell says "want to be" instead of wannabe?

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This insanity brought to you by Ruvyen:
Why would anyone bother to calculate furhter than about twelve or so digits into Pi? After a certain point, the difference becomes insignificant.

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astronomy?

edit: actually, yeah. that was annoying. seeing how I'm siding with maradon on this one.... wow

diadem fucked around with this message on 12-06-2005 at 06:20 PM.

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diadem attempted to be funny by writing:
astronomy?

edit: actually, yeah. that was annoying. seeing how I'm siding with maradon on this one.... wow

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Again, after a certain point, the difference becomes insignificant.

What's the difference between 1.0x10^-15 and 5.0x10^-15? According to human perception, nothing.

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LeMiere was naked while typing this:
http://keithschofield.com/pi/std.html

Who would have thought.

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Once I saw the red guys, I immediately though, "The Klan has gone too far."

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When the babel fish was in place, it was apparent Ruvyen said:
Again, after a certain point, the difference becomes insignificant.

What's the difference between 1.0x10^-15 and 5.0x10^-15? According to human perception, nothing.

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aren't they making that near-perfect sphere (for a gyroscope) and launching it into space to measure gravity waves or something else i'm equally ignornat of?

diadem fucked around with this message on 12-06-2005 at 06:52 PM.

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diadem painfully thought these words up:
aren't they making that near-perfect sphere (for a gyroscope) and launching it into space to measure gravity waves or something else i'm equally ignornat of?

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I've never heard of that. However, it seems the keyword in that would be near- perfect. It's obviously impossible to get Pi to all digits, and thus to make a perfect sphere, so we need to estimate. More digits of Pi means more accuracy, and thus a sphere closer to being perfect, but after a while the effect of throwing more digits of Pi will literally not change anything.

It's like the "0.9999... = 1" argument. The real answer is, who cares? If you're using infinite digits of 0.99999... and you don't care if the answer is 100% accurate, you can assume for the sake of ease that it is exactly one. Taking infinite digits, it gets closer and closer to one. In reality, 0.999... never exactly equals one, but after a certain point, the difference between the two is insignificant.

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LeMiere impressed everyone with:
http://keithschofield.com/pi/std.html

Who would have thought.

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"Did someone say pie?"
"No Steve you fatty! Pi not Pie!!

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diadem had this to say about the Spice Girls:
i'm pretty sure they have to measure very very very VERY minute changes

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So they may need a few more digits of Pi than I'm thinking. My point still stands, however. Take f(x) close enough to a constant C as x becomes large, and soon f(x) seems to equal exactly C, although it really doesn't.

[EDIT- I goofed slightly.]

Ruvyen fucked around with this message on 12-06-2005 at 07:14 PM.

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Ruvyen wrote this then went back to looking for porn:
I've never heard of that. However, it seems the keyword in that would be near- perfect. It's obviously impossible to get Pi to all digits, and thus to make a perfect sphere, so we need to estimate. More digits of Pi means more accuracy, and thus a sphere closer to being perfect, but after a while the effect of throwing more digits of Pi will literally not change anything.

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In practice, 40 digits is sufficient to convert between the radius and circumference of a circle the size of the known universe with less than the size of a hydrogen nucleus in error (add on a few more digits and you're at a Planck length). More digits of Pi will always change things in the mathematical sense, it just rapidly loses applications.

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It's like the "0.9999... = 1" argument. The real answer is, who cares? If you're using infinite digits of 0.99999... and you don't care if the answer is 100% accurate, you can assume for the sake of ease that it is exactly one. Taking infinite digits, it gets closer and closer to one. In reality, 0.999... never exactly equals one, but after a certain point, the difference between the two is insignificant.

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I'm not sure what you mean by infinite digits. The point of the proof is that .999... is the exact same thing mathematically as 1. The series Sum((.1)^i*9)'s partial sums are never 1, but it converges to 1.

oh wai...

Gadani fucked around with this message on 12-06-2005 at 11:55 PM.

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Verily, LeMiere doth proclaim:
http://keithschofield.com/pi/std.html

Who would have thought.

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This is quite possibly the best thing I've ever seen.

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How.... Inferno-Spirit.... uughhhhhh:
This is quite possibly the best thing I've ever seen.

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I feel as though I have finally contributed to the board.

Joy.

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When the babel fish was in place, it was apparent nem-x said:
My name's STEVE

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Holy SHIT! My name is Steve too!!