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Snoota
Now I am become Death, shatterer of worlds
posted 11-15-2005 03:46:24 PM
Since I work graveyard, I tend to play at odd times and find it difficult to get groups. So I'm going to get WoW for my other computer and duo!

What class works best with a Warrior?

El Cuchillo
RETARD! DO NOT FEED!
posted 11-15-2005 03:49:32 PM
Horde side, I'd say a Shaman, personally. Plenty of healing to keep you alive, plus totems.

Alliance side... fuck, I dunno.

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Ruvyen
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posted 11-15-2005 03:49:38 PM
PvE, you can never go wrong with a Holy-spec priest. PvP, I'd have to say probably a shaman or paladin, since they're a lot harder to kill.
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Sean
posted 11-15-2005 03:49:48 PM
Another warrior.

Serious answer; Druid, on either faction.

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El Cuchillo
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posted 11-15-2005 03:50:29 PM
quote:
Ruvyen attempted to be funny by writing:
PvE, you can never go wrong with a Holy-spec priest. PvP, I'd have to say probably a shaman or paladin, since they're a lot harder to kill.

Holy-spec priest is kinda overkill imo. Shaman gives you 'enough' healing and leaves you with some flexibility.

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Naimah
In a Fire
posted 11-15-2005 03:52:35 PM
Dual boxing in WoW seems like it would be fairly challenging. Considering how much faster paced it is then EQ was.
Father McKenzie
Pancake
posted 11-15-2005 04:04:13 PM
Druid is probably the best bet, as it can buff, and do Heals over Time. Though priests can do Shadow Word Pain and Renew. So whatever. Six one way, half dozen the other.
Dr. Gee
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posted 11-15-2005 04:16:57 PM
quote:
Naimah wrote this stupid crap:
Dual boxing in WoW seems like it would be fairly challenging. Considering how much faster paced it is then EQ was.

For duo'ing i'd say a Holy specc'd priest with Healing Subtlety to keep the amount of swapping attention between computers to a minimum. A lot of the different abilities that you could use with other classes (Shaman, Druid, Paladin) would probably be lost in the fact that you're going to be paying most of your attention to the Warrior so they'll just end up a heal bot and for pure healing, a Priest can do it best even if it might be overkill.

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Pancake
posted 11-15-2005 04:20:41 PM
quote:
Dr. Gee had this to say about Robocop:
For duo'ing i'd say a Holy specc'd priest with Healing Subtlety to keep the amount of swapping attention between computers to a minimum. A lot of the different abilities that you could use with other classes (Shaman, Druid, Paladin) would probably be lost in the fact that you're going to be paying most of your attention to the Warrior so they'll just end up a heal bot and for pure healing, a Priest can do it best even if it might be overkill.

A holy spec priest is utter overkill, a warrior with bandages can heal himself for questing / grinding if needed. Try a warlock, send in your succubus, pile on two dots, switch to the warrior to taunt off and tank until the mob dies.

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Father McKenzie
Pancake
posted 11-15-2005 04:33:28 PM
Yeah, bandage is enough for downtime. A warrior will be able to kill a lot more with some healing than he will with more damage, I think
Maradon!
posted 11-15-2005 07:30:10 PM
quote:
Over the mountain, in between the ups and downs, I ran into Ruvyen who doth quote:
PvE, you can never go wrong with a Holy-spec priest. PvP, I'd have to say probably a shaman or paladin, since they're a lot harder to kill.

Holy spec is probably unnecessary for duoing. A shadow spec priest would be much better in a two man group IMO.

Mod
Pancake
posted 11-15-2005 07:51:40 PM
quote:
Maradon! had this to say about Pirotess:
Holy spec is probably unnecessary for duoing. A shadow spec priest would be much better in a two man group IMO.

You'd have to keep clicking mind flay, shadowblast and renew. When twoboxing you want to keep your attention to one monitor, then swap to the other disregarding the first. If you constantly have to do things on both monitors you're just going to mess up sooner or later and warriors are a pretty involved class.

Honestly though, two-boxing isn't really fun or profitable in WoW, most places are either soloable or require a six person group, there isn't that much in the game that two people can do and one cannot.

Life... is like a box of chocolates. A cheap, thoughtless, perfunctory gift that nobody ever asks for. Unreturnable, because all you get back is another box of chocolates. You're stuck with this undefinable whipped-mint crap that you mindlessly wolf down when there's nothing else left to eat. Sure, once in a while, there's a peanut butter cup, or an English toffee. But they're gone too fast, the taste is fleeting. So you end up with nothing but broken bits, filled with hardened jelly and teeth-crunching nuts, and if you're desperate enough to eat those, all you've got left is a... is an empty box... filled with useless, brown paper wrappers.
Vorago
A completely different kind of Buckethead
posted 11-15-2005 08:12:53 PM
I am still having troubles figuring out where you would ever even NEED to duo chars...

If anything you would just hit 60 slower at like the same speed...

Heck, maybe slower

Ruvyen
Cartoon Broccoli Boy
posted 11-15-2005 08:23:36 PM
quote:
Maradon! Model 2000 was programmed to say:
Holy spec is probably unnecessary for duoing. A shadow spec priest would be much better in a two man group IMO.

As I was going to post before my power suddenly went out for the fourth damn time today ( GRR I AM ANGRY GRRGH), my brother and I tried a Shadow spec Priest duo'ed with a PvP/Tank spec Warrior. It didn't work at all. I tanked my best, and he was still drawing aggro like nuts.

Although you need to sacrifice DPS, one of the best duo teams is a Tank spec warrior (possibly PvP/Tank spec) and a Holy spec priest. The tank can keep aggro well enough, the priest isn't drawing too much, and the priest is better than any other class at keeping that warrior alive. This has been the case with pretty much every MMORPG out there, if I'm not mistaken. I know if you were going to dual-box independently at all in EQ, you played a Warrior/Cleric duo.

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Mr. Parcelan
posted 11-15-2005 08:29:37 PM
You either need to tank better or your Shadow priest needs to learn to use Fade. A Holy spec priest is completely useless.
Vorago
A completely different kind of Buckethead
posted 11-15-2005 08:36:31 PM
There is no holy spec for priests. You are either Disc/Shadow, Tri-spec or Disc/Holy.

Anything past 20 points in holy is just a waste, and 31 a complete and total joke. All the deep holy talents affect the non-flash heal heals... and as much as I love Gheal, I do only ever have time to get one off for like every 14 flash heals, heh

Stupid druids with their awesome 44 point resto trees containing pure, solid gold

Vorago fucked around with this message on 11-15-2005 at 08:38 PM.

Mr. Parcelan
posted 11-15-2005 08:38:19 PM
quote:
Vorago had this to say about Cuba:
There is no holy spec for priests. You are either Disc/Shadow, Tri-spec or Disc/Holy

Anything past 20 points in holy is just a waste, and 31 a complete and total joke.

Stupid druids with their awesome 44 point resto trees containing pure, solid gold


And yet half of them won't heal because they say "I'm a moonkin druid" or "I'm feral druid"

Vorago
A completely different kind of Buckethead
posted 11-15-2005 08:43:08 PM
quote:
And I was all like 'Oh yeah?' and Mr. Parcelan was all like:
And yet half of them won't heal because they say "I'm a moonkin druid" or "I'm feral druid"

Moonfire spammers are a joke, heh. The thought they might kill me in pvp just doesn't even occur, I just slap a shield and renew on and forget about their dps for a while, heh

Mr. Parcelan
posted 11-15-2005 08:44:52 PM
quote:
Check out the big brain on Vorago!
Moonfire spammers are a joke, heh. The thought they might kill me in pvp just doesn't even occur, I just slap a shield and renew on and forget about their dps for a while, heh

You fool! Don't you realize that's their only form of DPS?!!??!?!

Wait...what do you mean Druids are healers? GET OUT OF MY HOUSE!

Seriously, though, Druids are one of those hard-to-kill healers almost on par with Paladins.

Vorago
A completely different kind of Buckethead
posted 11-15-2005 08:46:31 PM
quote:
Mr. Parcelan impressed everyone with:
You fool! Don't you realize that's their only form of DPS?!!??!?!

Wait...what do you mean Druids are healers? GET OUT OF MY HOUSE!

Seriously, though, Druids are one of those hard-to-kill healers almost on par with Paladins.


'Almost'

Two druids can't hold off 6 horde from capping a node for a good 3 minutes like two paladins can

Talonus
Loner
posted 11-15-2005 08:58:59 PM
quote:
Vorago thought this was the Ricky Martin Fan Club Forum and wrote:
Stupid druids with their awesome 44 point resto trees containing pure, solid gold

I think most druids would be happy to be rid of innervate. The ability forces them to spec 31 points down the restoration tree if they want to raid at all. Kills any chance at variation for the class.

Mr. Parcelan
posted 11-15-2005 09:09:33 PM
quote:
Talonus impressed everyone with:
I think most druids would be happy to be rid of innervate. The ability forces them to spec 31 points down the restoration tree if they want to raid at all. Kills any chance at variation for the class.

That's still the problem with most trees.

They did pretty well with the Hunter trees, making BM as good as MM. Warriors and Druids still essentially have just one talent tree.

Talonus
Loner
posted 11-15-2005 09:48:04 PM
quote:
Mr. Parcelan had this to say about (_|_):
That's still the problem with most trees.

They did pretty well with the Hunter trees, making BM as good as MM. Warriors and Druids still essentially have just one talent tree.


Its not that druids have one talent tree; they're all pretty good. It just so happens that, argueably, the best ability in the game in the 31 point talent for druids in the restoration tree. As a result, druids are pretty much required to spec for that talent no matter what they want to play. At least other classes have sone choices, including warriors.

Lechium
With no one to ever know
posted 11-15-2005 09:57:26 PM
quote:
Everyone wondered WTF when Mr. Parcelan wrote:
That's still the problem with most trees.

They did pretty well with the Hunter trees, making BM as good as MM. Warriors and Druids still essentially have just one talent tree.


I rather like the feral tree, giving me a 20% chance to crit on every hit has made soloing alot easier.

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Azymyth
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posted 11-15-2005 10:37:41 PM
quote:
Talonus had this to say about Optimus Prime:
Its not that druids have one talent tree; they're all pretty good. It just so happens that, argueably, the best ability in the game in the 31 point talent for druids in the restoration tree. As a result, druids are pretty much required to spec for that talent no matter what they want to play. At least other classes have sone choices, including warriors.

A lot of the druids in my guild are either Feral or Moonkin. It works pretty well, especially in high end instances. Higher crit rates means bosses go down faster.

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Addy
posted 11-15-2005 11:15:49 PM
Well, the thing with the feral/moonkin 31 point talent is even if they're good, you're better off putting that 1 point into Nature's Swiftness.

And yes, for PVE raiding innervate is freaking sick. I think all of the top-end raiding guilds on my server pretty much require druids to have at least 31 into restoration. It sucks for them.

We will also probably see something similar with paladins in 1.9. I am predicting the holy tree having something that paladins pretty much have to get for raiding. There are quite a few that are gearing up in hopes of dishing out damage, but that won't be the case. It pretty much always happens with any class that can heal (high-end).

Warriors do have some flexibility. Mortal strike is sick for sure, but a fury build can do more sustained damage overtime. There's also the protection tree, I know a warrior who swears by shield slam for PVP. And I guess it works, since he's one of the more "hated" alliance warriors in the battlegrounds. Mortal strike allows any warrior to do halfway decent in pvp and pve damage, though. Plus it has more utility than fury.

Redmage Darkrayver
Moron
posted 11-15-2005 11:44:57 PM
Aside from the lack of healing, I'd say Rogue/Hunter

Rogue because of the fact that Warriors can grab aggro easy enough to let the rogue backstab lots

Hunters because of the HUGE ranged damage they can inflict, and not to mention the pets.

Other than that, any healer with a warrior would do.

Addy
posted 11-16-2005 12:08:46 AM
Hehe back to the original question, I think a shadow priest would work great. Decent damage and healing.

A druid is more suited for a rogue partner. Druid/rogue duos are sick.

Maradon!
posted 11-16-2005 01:14:11 AM
quote:
Addying:
Hehe back to the original question, I think a shadow priest would work great. Decent damage and healing.

A druid is more suited for a rogue partner. Druid/rogue duos are sick.


Paladin/Rogue duos are crazy, and can take out full groups under the right circumstances

Ferret
Poing! Poing!
posted 11-16-2005 01:43:00 AM
quote:
Maradon! had this to say about Punky Brewster:
Paladin/Rogue duos are crazy, and can take out full groups under the right circumstances

Druids can stealth with the rogue, though.

Maradon!
posted 11-16-2005 01:53:43 AM
quote:
x--FerretO-('-'Q) :
Druids can stealth with the rogue, though.

That's true and that's cool, but being able to stun, bless, and heal... it gets pretty insane with the rogue going apeshit

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