If they'd had something as simple as the telephone, though, it might have been a different history we all know, friend!
They marched in from the north while Rome struggled with civil war and took over enough of the Empire to leave it unable to sustain itself, and crumbled.
It's not something people hear about.
2) Barbarians
3) Homosexuality
made them all brain dead and their offspring too.
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Mr. Parcelan had this to say about Punky Brewster:
What is the use of chariots in warfare?
Fast moveing platforms that you put and archer or spearman on? Honestly I Never understood the idea either.
And Rome fell because it was old and broken?
The Hittites used a very heavy three man, four horse chariot that was excellent for trampling, crashing and crushing. One man was the shield bearer, another the driver, and another the archer.
The Egyptians used a light, fragile chariot which was much quicker. It wasn't used for crashing through infantry, but for mobility and terror. One man drove it and the other speared or shot people with a bow.
Now I know!
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Jackman loves Parcelan like a fat kid loves cake
some sugest because of lead poisoning.... the wealthy the elite could afford indoor plumbing and glass and such, which was soddered with lead... ate off lead glazed plates
made them all brain dead and their offspring too.
I don't think anyone suggests that.
Stop putting two spaces between paragraphs.
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In a disastrous attempt to be funny and clever, Mr. Parcelan wrote:
I don't think anyone suggests that.Stop putting two spaces between paragraphs.
I know it's Somthor, but it is actually discussed as a possibility, however retarded that sounds.
1. Books and Articles
Eisinger, J., "Lead and wine: Eberhard Gockel and the 'colica Pictonum' ", Medical History, 26 (1982): 278-302.
Eisinger, Josef, "Sweet poison. Episodic outbreaks of colic, or 'wine disease,' plagued Europe for many centuries, even after an obscure German physician traced the cause to lead," Natural History 105 (July 96): 48-53.
Gilfillan, S.C. "Lead Poisoning and the Fall of Rome," Journal of Occupational Medicine, 1 (1965): 53-60.
Gilfillan, S. Colum. Rome's Ruin by Lead Poison. Long Beach, CA, 1990.
Hodge, T. A. "Vitruvius, lead pipes, and lead poisoning," American Journal of Archaeology 85 (1981): 486-491.
Karlen, Arno Napoleon's Glands and Other Ventures in Biohistory. Toronto, 1984.
Needleman, Lionel and Diane. "Lead poisoning and the decline of the Roman aristocracy," Classical Views 4,1 (1985): 63-94.
Nriagu, J.O. Lead and Lead Poisoning in Antiquity. New York, 1983.
Nriagu, Jerome O. "Saturnine Gout among Roman Aristocrats: Did Lead Poisoning Contribute to the Fall of the Empire?", New England Journal of Medicine, 308.11 (March 17, 1983): 660-3.
Scarborough, John. "The myth of lead poisoning among the Romans: a review essay," Journal of the History of Medicine and Allied Sciences, 39,4 (1984): 469-475.
Skovenborg, Erik. "Lead in wine through the ages," Journal of Wine Research 6, 1 (1995).
Steinbock, R. Ted. "Lead Ingestion in Ancient Times," Paleopathology Newsletter , no. 27 (Sept. 1979): 9-11.
Waldron, H.A. "Lead Poisoning in the Ancient World," Medical History, 17 (1973): 391-399.
2. Reviews of Nriagu, Lead and Lead Poisoning in Antiquity.
Chisolm, J. Julian, Jr, in Bulletin of the History of Medicine 59 (1985): 258-9.
Houston, George W., in Classical Journal (1989-90), 73-5, and 80.
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Phillips, Charles Robert III. "Old Wine in Old Lead Bottles: Nriagu on the Fall of Rome," CW 78 (1984), 29-33.
Its a Valid theory. Please do not dismiss it because I am the one who mentioned it.
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We were all impressed when Jackman wrote:
Parcelan May the following please you.(STUFF)
Its a Valid theory. Please do not dismiss it because I am the one who mentioned it.
So you have a lot of sources. That means nothing if they happen to be all wrong.
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We were all impressed when Ruvyen wrote:
So you have a lot of sources. That means nothing if they happen to be all wrong.
Prove them wrong oh learned one. I was mearly refuting the statement that I was the only person who thought that.
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Ruvyen has funnier quote texts than me:
So you have a lot of sources. That means nothing if they happen to be all wrong.
That's a very stupid counter-argument.
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We were all impressed when Jackman wrote:
Prove them wrong oh learned one. I was mearly refuting the statement that I was the only person who thought that.
Eh, too much work. Besides, that isn't my point.
Generally, it's better to quote a few sources and then cite them, instead of simply hitting the opposition with a big list of what seems like randomly-chosen sources. I'm not saying that they are wrong, necessarily, but why should we bother to look into any of the works you referenced in that post when it doesn't seem like you've done that, yourself? All I see is a list of stuff.
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Yes, Suddar deserved to die, and I hope they burn in hell!
"Randomly chosen"? Half of them mention lead poisoning in the title.
They're also just copied and fucking pasted from another website. Sean fucked around with this message on 11-06-2005 at 05:07 PM.
It's not something people hear about.
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Suddar was listening to Cher while typing:
"Randomly chosen"? Half of them mention lead poisoning in the title.
The title says little about the quality of the source itself. How well are the facts presented and positions argued? You can't tell that from the title alone.
I think lead poisoning is exaggerated in it's effect because it's so interesting. Not saying it didn't contribute and have a dramatic effect in some cases, but I do think that people give it more credit than it is due.
So that's probably a contributing factor.
I don't think we'll ever really know for sure in any of these cases short of discovering time travel, but it's always fun to speculate.
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Sean said this about your mom:
They're also just copied and fucking pasted from another website.
Did you really expect him to have read all of those, or did you expect him to check for a single worked sited page that could suffice?
Peter fucked around with this message on 11-06-2005 at 06:37 PM.
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A sleep deprived Manticore stammered:
Did you really expect him to have read all of those, or did you expect him to check for a single worked sited page that could suffice?
I expect someone to do more than google the subject at hand, post an entirely uninformed opinion ( Sean fucked around with this message on 11-06-2005 at 07:03 PM.
parroting something you find in google is not demonstrating familiarity with a subject), and then linking someone else's bibliography as support for their argument.
It's not something people hear about.
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Sean wrote, obviously thinking too hard:
I expect someone to do more than google the subject at hand, post an entirely uninformed opinion (parroting something you find in google is not demonstrating familiarity with a subject), and then linking someone else's bibliography as support for their argument.
What better way to support my dissagreement with the statement?
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I don't think anyone suggests that. (Parcelan)
All that was required was to show several other people who also were suggesting my orginal post.
Thank you for playing, but this time you lose.
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Jackman Model 2000 was programmed to say:
All that was required was to show several other people who also were suggesting my orginal post.
And if those other people are wrong, you're fucked. It's not enough to simply say "oh this dude says this". You need to actually take a look at their specific ideas and arguments.
Hell, right now, I could probably find a shitload of tabloid articles that really slam G.W. Bush. But if I were to try to use those articles as a source of information in an intelligent discussion, I'd be laughed out of the thread. Why? Tabloids don't much care about reporting the facts and remaining objective, and so aren't a good source of anything. Except maybe entertainment.
Are the sources you cited good ones to use? I dunno. Like Hell I'm going through all of those. However, if you're going to tell us what other people are saying, you can at least take a look at what they're saying before giving us that information.
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Jackman had this to say about Jimmy Carter:
All that was required was to show several other people who also were suggesting my orginal post.Thank you for playing, but this time you lose.
I don't have a 'WHAT?' large enough to correctly display my inability to grasp whatever you just tried to convey. It's like someone took three partial thoughts, removed any sort of coherence from them, and then put them on a collision course to your keyboard.
In lieu of this, I have only;
It's not something people hear about.
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Ruvyen's account was hax0red to write:
And if those other people are wrong, you're fucked. It's not enough to simply say "oh this dude says this". You need to actually take a look at their specific ideas and arguments.Hell, right now, I could probably find a shitload of tabloid articles that really slam G.W. Bush. But if I were to try to use those articles as a source of information in an intelligent discussion, I'd be laughed out of the thread. Why? Tabloids don't much care about reporting the facts and remaining objective, and so aren't a good source of anything. Except maybe entertainment.
Are the sources you cited good ones to use? I dunno. Like Hell I'm going through all of those. However, if you're going to tell us what other people are saying, you can at least take a look at what they're saying before giving us that information.
I guess it takes someone already on Jackman's level to fully understand him. I thank you, Ruvyen, for hurling yourself in front of that bullet.
It's not something people hear about.
