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From the book of Katrinity, chapter 3, verse 16:
I hope the soldier was alright (must hurt like hell even with kevlar/etc vests).
Wouldn't be surprised if he broke a rib, but it's far better than the alternative.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
Lechium fucked around with this message on 07-20-2005 at 06:23 PM.
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Lechium had this to say about Tron:
I love how he immediately knew where to run for cover. Talk about good instincts and good training!
edit: I'm glad he's okay, but holy crap that bruise looks horribly painful.
I am thinking, why the idiot sniper no aim for the head? Well, i guess this is good for our boys 
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Peter startled the peaceful upland Gorillas by blurting:
I am thinking, why the idiot sniper no aim for the head? Well, i guess this is good for our boys
While he was technically sniping, I don't think it's accurate to call the shooter a sniper, because my bet is he has no particular marksmanship skills and no special-purpose weapon.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
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Channeling the spirit of Sherlock Holmes, nem-x absently fondled Watson and proclaimed:
The sniper used a Dragunov. And if that medic wasn't wearing armor, he would've got hit near the heart.
But that's only a 7.62mm round--not gonna go through body armour at any range at all. There's a reason our specialist snipers use .50cal weapons, and it's not only range.
The blog talked about the shot being "inside the 10-ring," which is okay if you're a grunt, but not what you should be looking for as a sniper. A sniper's job is to take the target out, not blindly shoot a particular spot regardless of armor.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
diadem fucked around with this message on 07-20-2005 at 08:39 PM.
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And if that medic wasn't wearing armor, he would've got hit near the heart.
Fucking Medics are overpowered 
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Nobody really understood why Bloodsage wrote:
But that's only a 7.62mm round--not gonna go through body armour at any range at all. There's a reason our specialist snipers use .50cal weapons, and it's not only range.The blog talked about the shot being "inside the 10-ring," which is okay if you're a grunt, but not what you should be looking for as a sniper. A sniper's job is to take the target out, not blindly shoot a particular spot regardless of armor.
Umm What kind of armor are they fitting our guys with now? I was under the impression that 7.62/.308 would go through damn near any armor. Or was this 7.62x39? All the Dragonovs I have owned were in 7.62x51
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
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Bloodsage stopped beating up furries long enough to write:
I could be wrong. AFAIK, we're using ceramic armor plates under Kevlar ballistic fabric. Could be wrong there, too.
I have a wall clock made out of a target sample of ceramic/kevlar composite armor that sucessfully stopped three 7.62x51 AP rounds. It is a bit thicker that that used for body armor though.
"Don't want to sound like a fanboy, but I am with you. I'll buy it for sure, it's just a matter of for how long I will be playing it..."
- Silvast, Battle.net forums
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Azizza had this to say about Matthew Broderick:
Umm What kind of armor are they fitting our guys with now? I was under the impression that 7.62/.308 would go through damn near any armor. Or was this 7.62x39? All the Dragonovs I have owned were in 7.62x51
The New Ceramic plates are fucking beasts, seen test footage of them being shot, and they don't stop the bullet, they shatter it. It's a diffrent ball game than Kevlar/spectra vests. Peter fucked around with this message on 07-21-2005 at 05:56 PM.
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From the book of Peter, chapter 3, verse 16:
The New Ceramic plates are fucking beasts, seen test footage of them being shot, and they don't stop the bullet, they shatter it. It's a diffrent ball game than Kevlar/spectra vests.
Were they using the frangible bullets?
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Sarudani Miolnir had this to say about Robocop:
I have a wall clock made out of a target sample of ceramic/kevlar composite armor that sucessfully stopped three 7.62x51 AP rounds. It is a bit thicker that that used for body armor though.
... Why would you be shooting a wall clock? 
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How.... Lechium.... uughhhhhh:
... Why would you be shooting a wall clock?
Because it's made of Kelvar.
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Lechium got all f'ed up on Angel Dust and wrote:
... Why would you be shooting a wall clock?
It was a target sample before it became a clock.
There is a lot of BS floating around concerning equipment, you hafta learn to sort through it... most people here do not even know what half the stuff does~! Like we were told that the atropine injector kits we are supposed to stick ourselves with in case we get gassed were basically just drugs to make us feel better while we die... was total crap.
GG instructors, they wonder why so many people want to quit or not come in at all nowadays
Atropine is dangerous shit.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
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Verily, the chocolate bunny rabits doth run and play while Callalron gently hums:
Yes, as I recall you were supposed to stick yourself with the atropine first, then use the 2-pan chloride injector after. The purpose of the 2-pan chloride injector is to keep the atropine from killing you while it worked on the nerve agent exposure.
Yes. Atropine is a dangerously powerful stimulant. Last thing we need is people thinking it's happy-fun juice.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
I couldnt do it, but it doesnt mean I dont appreciate it, keep it up.
Ryuujin fucked around with this message on 07-24-2005 at 07:26 PM.
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Sentow, Maybe had this to say about Jimmy Carter:
Fucking Medics are overpowered
I laughed far too hard at that one...
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Naimah's little brother wrote this stupid shit:
A little bit of tangent, but would any of you gun savy people mind telling me why assault weapon caliburs are tending downward?
I was under the impression that the actual round is smaller, but the cartridge firing it is oversized (Hence the standard "rifle bullet" image we all come up with), providing more charge for a smaller mass.. thus, higher muzzle velocity and overall power.
I could be 1009101% wrong, though. 
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Quoth Naimah:
A little bit of tangent, but would any of you gun savy people mind telling me why assault weapon caliburs are tending downward?
My guess is a combination of a need for higher muzzle velocities to penetrate modern body armor, and advances in bullet technology that allow for better jackets to withstand that penetration with a lower bullet weight. Not sure if they're being used much in small calibers, but sabot technology is also much better than it used to be, and allows for all sorts of armor penetration possibilities--but I think that's reserved for bigger guns and artillery right now.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
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Bloodsage said this about your mom:
My guess is a combination of a need for higher muzzle velocities to penetrate modern body armor, and advances in bullet technology that allow for better jackets to withstand that penetration with a lower bullet weight. Not sure if they're being used much in small calibers, but sabot technology is also much better than it used to be, and allows for all sorts of armor penetration possibilities--but I think that's reserved for bigger guns and artillery right now.
Should I be ashamed that I know what a Sabot round is from Deus Ex? 
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Channeling the spirit of Sherlock Holmes, Naimah absently fondled Watson and proclaimed:
I asked this because I was talking about guns and I guessed that the M16 used some large round, like a .50 or something, and was shocked to find it was a 5.56mm. Just seems bizaringly(it's a word now damn it) small.
Yeah, it's a .223. It'll leave a mark, though. 
It's not anywhere near a standard .22 long rifle; it's got lots o' powder behind it, and both shell and bullet are longer.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
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This insanity brought to you by Naimah:
A little bit of tangent, but would any of you gun savy people mind telling me why assault weapon caliburs are tending downward?
I know with the M-16 when it was first introduced, one of the biggest advandeces in useing the smaller round was how much Ammo a soldier could carry. going from the m-14 (I think) to an m-16, a Soldier could carry two to three times as much ammo.
There is a pistol that shoot these really tiny rounds, but has this huge clip capasity for a pistol.
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The logic train ran off the tracks when El Cuchillo said:
Isn't .50 cal what they use on light vehicle machine guns? I was under the impression that's the sort of thing that tends to knock you on your ass if it was a handheld weapon.
Well, Vietnam era there were people dragging one of those around on foot. But they would set up a bi-pod to fire from. None of that Rambo, running around with it bullshit.
I'm unsure what the SAW(Squad Automatic Weapon) uses caliber wise. The replacement for the old M-60 if I remember right.
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So quoth Alaan:
Well, Vietnam era there were people dragging one of those around on foot. But they would set up a bi-pod to fire from. None of that Rambo, running around with it bullshit.I'm unsure what the SAW(Squad Automatic Weapon) uses caliber wise. The replacement for the old M-60 if I remember right.
The M240G, which the marines use, is 7.62mm and can fire a sustained 100 rounds per min.
The M249, which I gather the army uses, is 5.56mm and can fire a sustained 85 rounds per min.
So apparently even machine guns use small caliburs.
