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Azizza
VANDERSHANKED
posted 06-22-2005 12:11:04 PM
This morning I went to the local dodge dealer with the intent of buying a new Dodge Charger R/T. I have done a lot of research and found that the car is perfect for what I want. It has a lot of power, rides wonderfully and is quite nice on the eye.

So I get to the dealership and they have the exact car I want. Perfect color, all the features I could ask for, in other words I was an easy sale. Of course the moment I walk on the lot I am hounded by 3 people before I can even get into the showroom. I had intended to talk to an acquaintance who works there in the hopes of getting a better deal but sadly he was off today. So instead I finally talk to another drone there and tell him what I want. You would think the guy would be happy when I point to a 32,000 car and say "I want that one" But instead he gets an indignant look on his face and tells me no. I don't want that car. I want a Stratus.

Ok. Now. I can kinda understand if the guy had tried to get me to buy a more expensive car. Something with more power or a truck/SUV. But the guy had just told me that I should go from a Dodge Charger with 425hp, to a Dodge stratus with not even half that. I tried to tell him that I wasn't really interested in a car as small as the stratus but the guy would not budge. He was intent on shoving this Stratus down my throat. Now I have owned a stratus. They are OK cars but I want something a bit bigger. At least the size of my current Impala. I tried explaining this to the guy and still he didn't seem to care.

Finally I just walked away and tried to find another salesperson. Of course as luck would have it I found a fairly attractive woman who turned out to be the manager. I figured I could live with this. Talk to her, get my car, make sure idiot Salesperson got no credit for the sale. Easy as pie. Hmmm. Well I hope I never have to cook pie. She calls the salesperson over and he starts on his rhetoric again about how great the Stratus is and how that is the car I really want and she does nothing to slow him down.

At this point I gave up. I told them never-mind, I wasn't going to buy a car from them now anyway. I was just to pissed to even care. So here I sit trying to find the next closest Dodge dealer and wondering if I am going to have to go through this again.

Sometimes I just don't understand people. I wasted 2 hours of my life it seems. And I want them back.

Azizza fucked around with this message on 06-22-2005 at 12:11 PM.

"Pacifism is a privilege of the protected"
Dr. Gee
Say it Loud, Say it Plowed!
posted 06-22-2005 12:36:13 PM
If you can get to your aquaintance maybe he can help you buy the car or you can attempt to go up the supervisorial ladder and complain about the salesperson and try and wheedle out a better deal.
Karnaj
Road Warrior Queef
posted 06-22-2005 12:45:12 PM
At least you went in there with the correct mindset. I'm sure if they tried that routine on someone weaker-willed, they would've sold him or her the Stratus.

Odds are that they've had it for a while and they're making payments (and thus losing money) on it, so it's likely that all the salespeople have been told to get rid of the thing by any means necessary.

That's the American Dream: to make your life into something you can sell. - Chuck Palahniuk, Haunted

Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite. - John Kenneth Galbraith



Beer.

Ares
posted 06-22-2005 12:50:09 PM
I'm glad you walked out. I hate pushy people. Not only were these two pushy, but stupid as well. Christ.
Densetsu
NOT DRYSART
posted 06-22-2005 12:51:33 PM
I would have walked out the instant it appeared that they weren't going to listen to me. I would have easily gone to another dealership.

Then again, I live in Texas, which is like the car dealership capital of the world.

Densetsu fucked around with this message on 06-22-2005 at 12:52 PM.

I was in the Virgin Islands once. I met a girl, we ate lobster, drank piƱa coladas. At sunset, we made love like sea otters. That was a pretty good day. Why couldn't I get that day over, and over?
Azizza
VANDERSHANKED
posted 06-22-2005 12:54:53 PM
Next closest dealer is a bit of a hike from here. Not to mention that they had the exact car I was looking for here and I could have driven it off the lot.
This has really taken the joy out of it for me. Right now I am thinking about just keeping my Impala and waiting a bit.. *sigh*. I am still pissed right now and normally I cool off pretty quickly.
"Pacifism is a privilege of the protected"
Sakkra
Office Linebacker
posted 06-22-2005 04:17:15 PM
Write/Print out your post and send it to their manager/supervisor/whatever.
Kaglaaz How'ler
Pancake
posted 06-22-2005 04:27:59 PM
I agree with Karnaj. That Stratus is probably on thier Priority sell list. Get the damned thing off the lot at all costs. Or that saleman has his own agenda and figured he could pressure you into something that is more environmentally friendly. It's still pretty fucked up... a car that costs almost half what you were looking to spend... he was probably pushing financing through their bank too. Take that little kickback away from them and get financing from your own Bank/Credit Union.

Find out who the owner of the dealership is and send him a letter about it or call his ass up to chew on his ear. If it's a large chain then find out who the director of sales is and chew on his ear a while. Do enough chewing and you'll probably not only get a great deal on the Charger but probably get some extra bling out of it too. (Hats, coats and other perks you usually only see on employees or sponsored folks)

Kaglaaz How'ler fucked around with this message on 06-22-2005 at 04:28 PM.

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Mightion Defensor
posted 06-22-2005 04:30:29 PM
Did you ask him flat-out why they were trying to shove you into a Stratus?
Azizza
VANDERSHANKED
posted 06-22-2005 04:33:23 PM
The charger would have been just over 32 before any specials and the such. The Stratus would have been 24. My best friend just reminded me of another Dodge dealer who is just as close and I should be able to get a good deal through. They may even be able to get me the exact car I was looking at.
"Pacifism is a privilege of the protected"
Naimah
In a Fire
posted 06-22-2005 05:20:39 PM
They should take the backseat out of the charger and make it a hatchback to have one of the best sportish cars out there. If you tightend it up just a little you would have a crossfire with 35 more HP for $8,000 less. That would be amazing in my book.
Blindy.
Suicide (Also: Gay.)
posted 06-22-2005 05:21:54 PM
They want him in a stratus because they are trying to sell them all at normal price before they get slashed when they are completly discontinued in a few months here.

I've never heard of something like that before.

Did you tell them to "Start the paperwork" on the charger or were you trying to haggle price with them?

Nae
Fun with Chocolate
posted 06-22-2005 05:47:04 PM
As a former car salesman, it sounds to me like the guy was pre-qualifying you. He probably thought you couldn't afford the truck, so he was trying to push you into what he figured you could afford.

He's stupid for losing that much commission. If I were you I would call the GM and tell him. They have specific customer service quotas to meet.

Azizza
VANDERSHANKED
posted 06-22-2005 06:28:22 PM
My mom is a Sr. Vice president at her bank so there is no way I would be going through anyone but them for the loan.

I personally like the fact that the Charger is a 4 Door. It makes it practical for a family car as well as a sporty car.

Oh and Naimah, I believe the crossfire has under 300HP. The Charger I was looking at has a 5.7L engine pushing 425HP. Not to mention I like the looks of the Charger better.

I wasn't aware that they were discontinuing the Stratus. This is interesting. I wonder what they are going to replace them with. I always thought they were pretty good cars in their class. Bigger than a Neon, smaller than a taurus/impala. And I had told them I was there for a charger but was trying to haggle a bit on the price. I saw no reason to seem to eager. I still told them at least a half dozen times I wasn't interested in the Stratus though.

"Pacifism is a privilege of the protected"
Ryuujin
posted 06-22-2005 07:24:19 PM
I bet he was intending to buy that Charger w/ an employee discount?

"Charger? Nooo...Stratus!"

Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael
I posted in a title changing thread.
posted 06-22-2005 07:39:50 PM
Reading this thread, I had the Dukes of Hazzard theme in my head the entire time
Lyinar's sweetie and don't you forget it!*
"All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die. -Roy Batty
*Also Lyinar's attack panda

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Naimah
In a Fire
posted 06-22-2005 10:17:29 PM
quote:
Azizza wrote this then went back to looking for porn:

Oh and Naimah, I believe the crossfire has under 300HP. The Charger I was looking at has a 5.7L engine pushing 425HP. Not to mention I like the looks of the Charger better.


215 actually, but it is still very gutsy. I figured you were looking at the bigger engine due to the price tag that you were talking about. I was more talking in a theoretical sense of dodge has a really good platform there that is apparently very cost effective.

If dodge would take their 250HP engine and put it in something signifigantly smaller then a full size sedan they would have a very awsome sports car. More so if they shoe horned the V8 into this smaller body. Personally I like the overall lines of the Charger and I love the power for the price. I just don't like that it is a 4 door sedan. I'm many of the people that currently own mustangs feel the same way about this car.

Great idea, great price, just too darn big.

Kaiote
Shot in the Face
posted 06-22-2005 10:53:39 PM
Stratus hasnt been selling out as well as they hoped. Charger has.

Add in that the year model is coming to an end, and they have to dump as many of everything as they can before the new ones arrive at the end of summer.

With the end of the model year, and this year having asstastic sales n the stratus, they are likely even giving the salepeople a bonus for each stratus sale. Right now, the Stratus is the perfect car for anybody, and its likely anybody who walked on that lot would have had a Stratus pushed on them.

At least.. thats what my father would tell his salespeople to do... he used to be a sales manager for Dodge..

Henry had been killed by a garden gnome.He had fallen off the roof onto that cheerful-looking figure. The gnome was made of concrete. Henry wasn't. - Dean Koontz, Velocity
Bloodsage
Heart Attack
posted 06-23-2005 12:17:32 AM
I certainly hope you made it clear not only that they had lost a sale, but why, prior to leaving.
To reign is worth ambition, though in Hell:
Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven.

--Satan, quoted by John Milton

Kait
has made another completely pointless and off-topic post that nobody cares about
posted 06-23-2005 02:02:38 AM
Out of curiosity, do you live in a city or in a rural area?
Just wondering what you use all that horsepower for
"A black cat dropped soundlessly from a high wall, like a spoonful of dark treacle and melted under the gate."
-Elizabeth Lemarchand
Mightion Defensor
posted 06-23-2005 02:08:49 AM
quote:
Kait wrote their words upon the rocks;
Out of curiosity, do you live in a city or in a rural area?
Just wondering what you use all that horsepower for

Horsepower is its own reward.

Kaglaaz How'ler
Pancake
posted 06-23-2005 09:20:48 AM
quote:
When the babel fish was in place, it was apparent Kait said:
Out of curiosity, do you live in a city or in a rural area?
Just wondering what you use all that horsepower for

It's a guy thing, you wouldn't understand.

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Azizza
VANDERSHANKED
posted 06-23-2005 10:08:16 AM
I live in a Very small town but fairly near a good sized city.
And as the others have said, Horsepower is it's own reward.
Hell I just finished helping my best friend put a 800HP engine in his 1966 Impala.
He gave me the old 327 that is putting out around 400HP so I can use it in a Mustang I am thinking of building.
"Pacifism is a privilege of the protected"
Kaglaaz How'ler
Pancake
posted 06-23-2005 10:30:33 AM
quote:
Azizza stumbled drunkenly to the keyboard and typed:
I live in a Very small town but fairly near a good sized city.
And as the others have said, Horsepower is it's own reward.
Hell I just finished helping my best friend put a 800HP engine in his 1966 Impala.
He gave me the old 327 that is putting out around 400HP so I can use it in a Mustang I am thinking of building.

My dream vehicle would be a Willy's Coupe (Circa 1940-1941) with the new Chevy 605 CI (Cubic Inch) Big Block under the hood. Way too much power under the hood of a rare breed. Usually you only see Willy's Jeeps (WWII type jeeps) or Willy's Pickups. Why the obsession with Willy's vehicles? My last name

1940 Willy's Coupe

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Jackman
Racist Hermaphroditic Midget
posted 06-23-2005 02:57:20 PM
There is no replacement for displacement. If you go back to that dealer make sure you talk to the gm because normally because you talked to the one guy itĀ’s still considered his sale even if you latter buy it from another salesman. (So I am told)

I agree likely the stratus is on their must sell list, but you could have simply taken control of the situation by asking for the GM or saying I am ready to make a offer on that charger write up the deal sheet.

Being the prick that I am I wouldnĀ’t have left there without the car I came for if I could help it even If I had to dig my heels in and refuse to speak to anyone but my friend they would have called him in for the sale after all or the GM.

Peter: I'm not afraid of anything, I laugh in the face of Death. See HAHAHAHA.
Death: Oh great! Thanks a lot. As if it wasnt already hard enough to fit in.

Some people are like Slinkys... Not really good for anything, But they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs.

Naimah
In a Fire
posted 06-23-2005 03:21:41 PM
quote:
Azizza wrote this then went back to looking for porn:

Hell I just finished helping my best friend put a 800HP engine in his 1966 Impala.

Damn it, I just put on these pants.

Azizza
VANDERSHANKED
posted 06-23-2005 06:50:27 PM
quote:
Naimah painfully thought these words up:
Damn it, I just put on these pants.

I guess I need to put up a few pictures of the car then huh?

"Pacifism is a privilege of the protected"
Kaglaaz How'ler
Pancake
posted 06-23-2005 06:51:10 PM
quote:
A sleep deprived Azizza stammered:
I guess I need to put up a few pictures of the car then huh?

*runs to grab a towel*

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Mr. Gainsborough
posted 06-23-2005 06:56:38 PM
Boys are weird.
Azizza
VANDERSHANKED
posted 06-23-2005 07:26:07 PM
Here are the images I took a few weeks ago. These images are with the original 327.
All number match on the car. And yes those are original miles on the Odometer.
He has it up on ebay right now. reserve price is 22k.

Azizza fucked around with this message on 06-23-2005 at 07:28 PM.

"Pacifism is a privilege of the protected"
Kaglaaz How'ler
Pancake
posted 06-23-2005 07:52:34 PM
*sniff* that's beautiful man *sniff*
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Karnaj
Road Warrior Queef
posted 06-23-2005 08:26:36 PM
So what's the new engine? A 572? Or maybe a 502?
That's the American Dream: to make your life into something you can sell. - Chuck Palahniuk, Haunted

Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite. - John Kenneth Galbraith



Beer.

Kait
has made another completely pointless and off-topic post that nobody cares about
posted 06-23-2005 08:30:44 PM
I really want to get into motorcycles, but I have no idea where to start. Also, I wear glasses when I'm driving...wouldn't that be a problem with a helmet on? I dunno. If I ever did start riding motorcycles, undoubtedly I'd get run over my first week in But oh, what a way to die!
"A black cat dropped soundlessly from a high wall, like a spoonful of dark treacle and melted under the gate."
-Elizabeth Lemarchand
BetaTested
Not gay, but loves the cock!
posted 06-23-2005 08:40:04 PM
quote:
Everyone wondered WTF when Kait wrote:
I really want to get into motorcycles, but I have no idea where to start. Also, I wear glasses when I'm driving...wouldn't that be a problem with a helmet on? I dunno. If I ever did start riding motorcycles, undoubtedly I'd get run over my first week in But oh, what a way to die!

Where the hell did that come from? Sweet jesus.

Go to another dealer and get the Charger.


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Jackman
Racist Hermaphroditic Midget
posted 06-23-2005 08:40:06 PM
what is the listing number?
Peter: I'm not afraid of anything, I laugh in the face of Death. See HAHAHAHA.
Death: Oh great! Thanks a lot. As if it wasnt already hard enough to fit in.

Some people are like Slinkys... Not really good for anything, But they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs.

Azizza
VANDERSHANKED
posted 06-23-2005 08:47:14 PM
The listing number is 4557490812

The car is being sold with the original engine.

"Pacifism is a privilege of the protected"
Kait
has made another completely pointless and off-topic post that nobody cares about
posted 06-23-2005 08:54:17 PM
quote:
BetaTested had this to say about Pirotess:
Where the hell did that come from? Sweet jesus.

Go to another dealer and get the Charger.


Sorry, you were talking about cars and what you love about them and stuff o.o
I thought it was related...I guess I thought wrong. My apologies.

"A black cat dropped soundlessly from a high wall, like a spoonful of dark treacle and melted under the gate."
-Elizabeth Lemarchand
Ares
posted 06-24-2005 12:01:05 AM
Azizza
VANDERSHANKED
posted 06-24-2005 09:54:51 AM
quote:
Ares's fortune cookie read:
Azizza: That's hot. Great colour too.

Thanks but as I said, it isn't my car. It is my best friends.

"Pacifism is a privilege of the protected"
Reynar
Oldest Member
Best Lap
posted 06-24-2005 10:44:49 AM
An automatic? Bummer!

But still, a very spiffy looking car.

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