Or maybe I'm the only person to experience that....
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Anklebiter fucked around with this message on 04-14-2005 at 06:34 PM.
Mr. Parcelan fucked around with this message on 04-14-2005 at 06:34 PM.
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Channeling the spirit of Sherlock Holmes, Anklebiter absently fondled Watson and proclaimed:
'thee' and 'thou' is not "old english." It is Elizabethian Era english, which is modern.
Damn you for stealing my line!
I stab at thee from my hotel room in California! 
Old English would be completely unintelligible to modern speakers.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
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Everyone wondered WTF when Bloodsage wrote:
Damn you for stealing my line!I stab at thee from my hotel room in California!
Old English would be completely unintelligible to modern speakers.
Oh...I'm sorry. So it's called Elizabethian Era language, then? What do you call "Medieval Era language?"
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Kait Model 2000 was programmed to say:
Oh...I'm sorry. So it's called Elizabethian Era language, then? What do you call "Medieval Era language?"
Shakespeare!
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Bloodsage had this to say about Optimus Prime:
Damn you for stealing my line!I stab at thee from my hotel room in California!
Old English would be completely unintelligible to modern speakers.
Hey bloodsage, how are things going in California?
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Verily, the chocolate bunny rabits doth run and play while Manticore gently hums:
Hey bloodsage, how are things going in California?
Still looking for a house. 
Got a couple of prospects, but it's tough to get a nice place on a short lease.
Got my motorcycle today, though. Doesn't seem like they hurt it in transit, which is a good thing.
Monterey is a really nice area. Staying in a hotel is just about the same as our rent will be, but at least we won't have to eat out 3 meals a day. I'm hoping we can get a place in Pebble Beach--not only would it be cool to live in Pebble Beach, we'd get around the outrageous $8.50 toll to drive on their roads. That section of the coast is incredible, and there are great running and biking paths.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
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When the babel fish was in place, it was apparent Bloodsage said:
Still looking for a house.Got a couple of prospects, but it's tough to get a nice place on a short lease.
Got my motorcycle today, though. Doesn't seem like they hurt it in transit, which is a good thing.
Monterey is a really nice area. Staying in a hotel is just about the same as our rent will be, but at least we won't have to eat out 3 meals a day. I'm hoping we can get a place in Pebble Beach--not only would it be cool to live in Pebble Beach, we'd get around the outrageous $8.50 toll to drive on their roads. That section of the coast is incredible, and there are great running and biking paths.
Sounds cool, best of luck with that.
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Check out the big brain on Bloodsage!
Damn you for stealing my line!I stab at thee from my hotel room in California!
Old English would be completely unintelligible to modern speakers.
He stole my line too.
It pisses me off when people say "omg Shakespeare's Old English is so hard to read.. omgomg..."
They don't like it much when I try to explain to them that it's modern English. I don't think many people who are around now would be able to read true Old English and understand it. It's almost like a different language.
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Quoth Ares:
He stole my line too.It pisses me off when people say "omg Shakespeare's Old English is so hard to read.. omgomg..."
They don't like it much when I try to explain to them that it's modern English. I don't think many people who are around now would be able to read true Old English and understand it. It's almost like a different language.
Heck, most people (including me) can barely wade through Chaucer's Middle English. So I shall give examples!
The Miller's Tale, by Chaucer, in Middle English:
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Whilom ther was dwellynge at Oxenford
A riche gnof, that gestes heeld to bord,
And of his craft he was a carpenter.
With hym ther was dwellynge a poure scoler,
Hadde lerned art, but al his fantasye
Was turned for to lerne astrologye,
And koude a certeyn of conclusiouns,
To demen by interrogaciouns,
If that men asked hym in certain houres
Whan that men sholde have droghte or elles shoures,
Or if men asked hym what sholde bifalle
Of every thyng; I may nat rekene hem alle.
This clerk was cleped hende Nicholas.
Of deerne love he koude and of solas;
And therto he was sleigh and ful privee,
And lyk a mayden meke for to see.
A chambre hadde he in that hostelrye
Allone, withouten any compaignye,
Ful fetisly ydight with herbes swoote;
And he hymself as sweete as is the roote
Of lycorys, or any cetewale.
His Almageste, and bookes grete and smale,
His astrelabie, longynge for his art,
His augrym stones layen faire apart,
On shelves couched at his beddes heed;
His presse ycovered with a faldyng reed
Beowulf, in Old English:
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Hwæt! We Gardena in geardagum,
þeodcyninga, þrym gefrunon,
hu ða æþelingas ellen fremedon.
Oft Scyld Scefing sceaþena þreatum,
monegum mægþum, meodosetla ofteah,
egsode eorlas. Syððan ærest wearð
feasceaft funden, he þæs frofre gebad,
weox under wolcnum, weorðmyndum þah,
oðþæt him æghwylc þara ymbsittendraofer hronrade hyran scolde,
gomban gyldan. þæt wæs god cyning!
ðæm eafera wæs æfter cenned,
geong in geardum, þone god sende
folce to frofre; fyrenðearfe ongeatþe hie ær drugon aldorlease
lange hwile. Him þæs liffrea,
wuldres wealdend, woroldare forgeaf;
Beowulf wæs breme (blæd wide sprang),
Scyldes eafera Scedelandum in.
Hope that helps folks understand the differences.
{edit: removed line numbers from the quotations} Bloodsage fucked around with this message on 04-14-2005 at 09:48 PM.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
Oh, the story is neat too. Or something.
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Zaeron Model 2000 was programmed to say:
This thread makes me feel bad for having difficulty following Shakespeare's plays.
I think everyone has trouble the first time they read it. It takes practice to understand the word use and to get the tounge and cheek jokes in there. First time I read Shakespeare, there was a margin of work explainations on one said, and the play on the other. I just kept reading Shakespeare on my own time and I have little problems with it now (a few words make me stop and check the meaning still).
It's really a practice thing. Read enough and it becomes second nature.
Bloodsage: Uh.. Wow.. First "Middle English" Chaucher wasn't too bad.. But Beowulf.. Wow.. I didn't realise it was THAT different. 
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*stuff*
Hot damn, I feel stupid. But very interested in taking classes on how to speak Old English! Too bad my imitation college sucks eggs.
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Take out the line breaks, add random punctuation and capitalization...
Whilom ther was DWELLYNGE at Oxenford a RICHE GNOF, that gestes heeld to bord!@$!@1111!! And of his craft he was a CARPENTER!!!!@@!12!!11. With hym ther was dwellynge a POURE SCOLER, hadde lerned art, but al his fantasye Was turned for to lerne ASTROLOGYE !!@!@!@!@@!111111
Kagrama is Chaucer reincarnated.
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Hwæt!
Chixæ!
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Vorbis wrote this then went back to looking for porn:
I just read Grendel by John Gardner on my flight back from Chicago. Neat little book. Not sure I took all of it in, since I was easily distracted and it's a somewhat challenging read. Worth another go-through, though.
One of my favorite books!
When I was in High School, my teacher has us all reading Beowulf, and I read so fast I had nothing to do. So she tested me on Beowulf to see if I had really read it. After I scored perfectly on her test, she offered me her copy of Grendel to read for extra credit.
I have been wanting to get a copy of it, but I always forget to when I am in the store.
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From the book of Nae, chapter 3, verse 16:
One of my favorite books!When I was in High School, my teacher has us all reading Beowulf, and I read so fast I had nothing to do. So she tested me on Beowulf to see if I had really read it. After I scored perfectly on her test, she offered me her copy of Grendel to read for extra credit.
I have been wanting to get a copy of it, but I always forget to when I am in the store.
Do you know what was going on in the earlier part--like when the Queen (Wealtheow) was introduced--with the sudden prose changes? Gardner interjected odd bits that seemed like they should be part of stage directions, or perhaps one of the Shaper's songs, and it threw me off a little.
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Kait Model 2000 was programmed to say:
Oh...I'm sorry. So it's called Elizabethian Era language, then? What do you call "Medieval Era language?"
Shakespeare wasn't Medieval. He was of the Renaissance Period, often said to have started between 1400 and 1500, ending around the early 1600s. Regardless, Shakespeare wasn't born until around 1564.
The Medieval Period ended when Europe entered the Renaissance, and while there were many hold-overs from the period, they were quite different. The renaissance was marked by the flourishing of poetry, local languages (like English, Italian, etc.), and science, while the Church (only one) and Latin, which had dominated the Medieval Period, fell into disfavor. That's why Shakespeare is modern, language aside. While he may have written about medieval topics and personas, he himself was not of the medieval period.
